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TexasHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.27.2017

Feb 26 @ 2:10 PM ET
How does his 2 year ELC work since he played in the SHL this year? is it still 2 years or is it now 1 year?
- kmw4631


Should be a 2-year contract. It drops to 1 year after ~25/26. That is why we got two years of Panarin, but only one of Rutta.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Feb 26 @ 2:10 PM ET
How soon everyone forgets Big John Hayden.

This guy actually does everything that people wanted (or think they saw) Hartman to do.

- Hank3Henshaw

Good point ..
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Feb 26 @ 2:10 PM ET
Like him better than Hartman anyway and have been on his band wagon for a couple years now. Hated he got sent down...seemed our team got way softer, less net presence when that happened.
- kwolf68


Totally agree. Big fan of his.

He's way more consistent with physicality, board play and skill than Hartman has been.

Hayden brings it every night.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Feb 26 @ 2:12 PM ET
Wingels, Sharp, Franson and Rutta… absolutely no market for them?
- hockey nut 28


In the AHL
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Feb 26 @ 2:12 PM ET
Like him better than Hartman anyway and have been on his band wagon for a couple years now. Hated he got sent down...seemed our team got way softer, less net presence when that happened.
- kwolf68


So the team limit is 1 player who is physical and can chip in goals? Got it. I really like Hayden too, but this is such an ironic trade considering April 2017 and the supposed goal to "toughen up" the Hawks this past summer.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Feb 26 @ 2:13 PM ET
E Kane to Sharks TBD on return
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:16 PM ET
E Kane to Sharks TBD on return
- pdx2ord


Conditional 1, Conditional 4 and a prospect.
Stan_Bowman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.27.2017

Feb 26 @ 2:16 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Kane to SJ for a first, prospect and conditional 4th

i essentially got the same thing for Hartman

You're welcome fans
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Feb 26 @ 2:16 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Kane to SJ for a first, prospect and conditional 4th

i essentially got the same thing for Hartman

You're welcome fans

- Stan_Bowman


Speaks volume to Stan's work with Hartman return.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Feb 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
Can someone please explain to me how trading a utility forward who was in and out of the lineup has any bearing on what the Hawks will do with their head coach after the season is over?

I get that Hartman was a former 1st round pick and he brought some traits that are short in our lineup, but looking at what they bring to the team, would you rather have Hinostroza or Hartman? Hinostroza busts his rear all over the ice, works corners, doesn't back down, puts up points and has brought the same intensity to every line he has been on. I'm not saying Hartman is any means, but right now, he is the lesser of the two.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
Speaks volume to Stan's work with Hartman return.
- Justin Lowe


I know it.

I am losing my mind listening to these idiots on NHL Network talking about how hard it was to give up a 1st, prospect for Kane...but when Blackhawks got that for a guy on pace for 12 goals this year they bashed Chicago and talked about what a coup it was for Nashville.
Stan_Bowman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.27.2017

Feb 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
Can someone please explain to me how trading a utility forward who was in and out of the lineup has any bearing on what the Hawks will do with their head coach after the season is over?

I get that Hartman was a former 1st round pick and he brought some traits that are short in our lineup, but looking at what they bring to the team, would you rather have Hinostroza or Hartman? Hinostroza busts his rear all over the ice, works corners, doesn't back down, puts up points and has brought the same intensity to every line he has been on. I'm not saying Hartman is any means, but right now, he is the lesser of the two.

- Chunk



lesser of the two smeagols?
FeartheFeathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 03.01.2017

Feb 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
If this Ejdsell guy makes the Hawks next year, this is a big time win for the Hawks. If Ejdsell turns out to be a Dennis Rasmussen type of player, then it's just a #TANK move. Either way, given how the situation with Q + Hartman boiled over last game, this shouldn't be too surprising. IF this late 1st allows the Hawks to trade up and draft Tzchuck, I think all of us will be ecstatic.
- EnzoD

Are you referring to the benching? Was there anything more that happened between them?
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Feb 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
Can someone please explain to me how trading a utility forward who was in and out of the lineup has any bearing on what the Hawks will do with their head coach after the season is over?

I get that Hartman was a former 1st round pick and he brought some traits that are short in our lineup, but looking at what they bring to the team, would you rather have Hinostroza or Hartman? Hinostroza busts his rear all over the ice, works corners, doesn't back down, puts up points and has brought the same intensity to every line he has been on. I'm not saying Hartman is any means, but right now, he is the lesser of the two.

- Chunk


I think the idea is that IF the team was planning to move on from Q and IF the issue with Hartman was primarily a disconnect between he and Q, then wouldn't you want to see what a new coach might do with him given his potential upside as evidenced last year?

So, a signal that maybe Q is returning.
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Feb 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
Can someone please explain to me how trading a utility forward who was in and out of the lineup has any bearing on what the Hawks will do with their head coach after the season is over?

I get that Hartman was a former 1st round pick and he brought some traits that are short in our lineup, but looking at what they bring to the team, would you rather have Hinostroza or Hartman? Hinostroza busts his rear all over the ice, works corners, doesn't back down, puts up points and has brought the same intensity to every line he has been on. I'm not saying Hartman is any means, but right now, he is the lesser of the two.

- Chunk


Fellas on the blog today are talking about Hartman like he was some kind of Eric Lindros physical presence and goal scorer.

EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Feb 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
Are you referring to the benching? Was there anything more that happened between them?
- FeartheFeathers


Yep. He got benched for 2+ periods last game.....not a single shift after that penalty. That seemed to be the final straw....and Nashville willing to pay a premium. It's a good return, but man Nashville is stacked now with the cap structure to keep pretty much everyone for the next few years.....it's going to be a long rebuild here folks.
kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Feb 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
Should be a 2-year contract. It drops to 1 year after ~25/26. That is why we got two years of Panarin, but only one of Rutta.
- TexasHawk


Ejdsell, Victor 2 RFA ELCPerformance Bonuses Waivers Exempt C, LW Loan 22 $833,750 $833,750
RFA

looks like he is on loan to the SHL so next year he would have 1 year left on his ELC?


powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Feb 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
Best response from over on the main board (where is power enforcer?)

This is Bettman requiring a first to make the Blackhawks competitive again ASAP.

-----

well, they do have that Winter Classic with two losing teams coming up in Jan 2019

- pdx2ord


How many of the outdoor/(dog and pony shows) have the Blackhawks won? Yea, I didn't think it mattered if they were competative.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Feb 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
So the team limit is 1 player who is physical and can chip in goals? Got it. I really like Hayden too, but this is such an ironic trade considering April 2017 and the supposed goal to "toughen up" the Hawks this past summer.
- EnzoD


I guess that depends on what they meant when they said they wanted to be "harder to play against". Saad is supposed to be the same thing. Wingels is bringing what Hartman is supposed to be right now. Again, not really disagreeing with your point, but Hartman wasn't really providing what he was "supposed to".
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Feb 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
Yep. He got benched for 2+ periods last game.....not a single shift after that penalty. That seemed to be the final straw....and Nashville willing to pay a premium. It's a good return, but man Nashville is stacked now with the cap structure to keep pretty much everyone for the next few years.....it's going to be a long rebuild here folks.
- EnzoD


Preds will never win it.

Added PK thinking it would get them over the hump. It didn't.

Added Turris, brought a dude out of retirement and traded for Hartman.

It still won't work.
Stan_Bowman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.27.2017

Feb 26 @ 2:24 PM ET
#9 in your programs

67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Feb 26 @ 2:25 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Kane to SJ for a first, prospect and conditional 4th

i essentially got the same thing for Hartman

You're welcome fans

- Stan_Bowman


UFA vs RFA though
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Feb 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
How many of the outdoor/(dog and pony shows) have the Blackhawks won? Yea, I didn't think it mattered if they were competative.
- powerenforcer


One? We're horrible in them, but at least if we are tops in the Division, it's a more attractive prospect for people to watch.
HamiltonHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.13.2015

Feb 26 @ 2:28 PM ET
Yep. He got benched for 2+ periods last game.....not a single shift after that penalty. That seemed to be the final straw....and Nashville willing to pay a premium. It's a good return, but man Nashville is stacked now with the cap structure to keep pretty much everyone for the next few years.....it's going to be a long rebuild here folks.
- EnzoD

Yup Nashville stacked at forward and the blue line looking like favorites to come out of West
I've been thinking it is a long rebuild coming for the Hawks as well.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 26 @ 2:28 PM ET
Funny how Shaw was a Q favorite, Hartman wasn't

But many here viewed Shaw and Hartman as comparable players

- Slofire94


not even close...shaw earned Q's praises with his gritty in your face play; great net presence guy..totally different skill set; shaw was a 5th rounder and hartman was a number 1
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