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Tyler Cameron
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Nov 27 @ 4:10 PM ET
Someone mention on the previous blog before this one that evander kane was on the move and info on that or just hear say to your knowledge have the hawks even inquired about kane from buffalo
- Scott1977


The Hawks would love to add E. Kane to complinent P. Kane however, they need to make sure that they put themselves in a playoff position first. And still they may not want to part with younger players and/or draft picks for an impending UFA.

The last factor would be that if he was added closer to the deadline, the Hawks will really want to make sure he fits in the dressing room.

There's been comments by guys like Toews about chemistry in year's past. Also, some ex-Hawks who weren't a fan of Evander in Winnipeg who could act as a character reference for him (not in a good way).



Tyler Cameron
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Nov 27 @ 4:14 PM ET
Unless Crawford has a mental block re: Nashville after the 2015 playoffs, why would you put your best goalie against the injury-packed, non-division rival team?

SMH at Q on this one.

- pdx2ord


Thought Q may go Forsberg tonight but can also send a backup a bad message if you're skipping starts and trying to line them up for success.

Will also be nice for Corey to rest a little on a travel day.
JRoenick97
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Nov 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
The Hawks would love to add E. Kane to complinent P. Kane however, they need to make sure that they put themselves in a playoff position first. And still they may not want to part with younger players and/or draft picks for an impending UFA.

The last factor would be that if he was added closer to the deadline, the Hawks will really want to make sure he fits in the dressing room.

There's been comments by guys like Toews about chemistry in year's past. Also, some ex-Hawks who weren't a fan of Evander in Winnipeg who could act as a character reference for him (not in a good way).

- Justin Lowe

E. Kane has been an issue on almost every team he's been on, even dating back to junior.
kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Nov 27 @ 4:27 PM ET
The Hawks would love to add E. Kane to complinent P. Kane however, they need to make sure that they put themselves in a playoff position first. And still they may not want to part with younger players and/or draft picks for an impending UFA.

The last factor would be that if he was added closer to the deadline, the Hawks will really want to make sure he fits in the dressing room.

There's been comments by guys like Toews about chemistry in year's past. Also, some ex-Hawks who weren't a fan of Evander in Winnipeg who could act as a character reference for him (not in a good way).

- Justin Lowe



If I was a GM I would either put a End of Jan Deadline to acquire a player and then Maybe make a crazy low offer the last hour or so of the deadline IE if it does not work out no big deal.

our last 3 or so trade dealines:
Runblad (2)
Vermette (1) dahlback
Timo 2 (2)
Ladd (1) Dano
Flesch Weiss (2) danult
Oduya (4) Mcneal

Vermette helped but not until 3rd or 4th round of playoffs, ladd was pretty solid everybody else was pretty much nothing. So Ladd knew our system and it took vermette 25 games or so to really contribute so that means Jan 31st cutoff or severe under pay. who were the big trades last hanzel and Shattenkirk did they help much? 6 weeks is not enough time to learn a system. I think 10 seems like a better #. IMO

EnzoD
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Nov 27 @ 4:36 PM ET
E. Kane has been an issue on almost every team he's been on, even dating back to junior.
- JRoenick97


He's an even bigger issue to the team he's playing against with his speed, skill, and physicality. 23 points in 24 games on a terrible team. Think of what he could produce with Patrick Kane??? I find the "character" issues to be blown out of proportion given the nature of the NHL Media. Theoretically, those "character issues" should lower the price to acquire him via trade. Isn't part of why Bowman is paying Toews and Seabrook $17million a year to be Leaders and establish a locker room culture for players like E.Kane??
matt_ahrens
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Nov 27 @ 4:38 PM ET
The Hawks would love to add E. Kane to complinent P. Kane however, they need to make sure that they put themselves in a playoff position first. And still they may not want to part with younger players and/or draft picks for an impending UFA.

The last factor would be that if he was added closer to the deadline, the Hawks will really want to make sure he fits in the dressing room.

There's been comments by guys like Toews about chemistry in year's past. Also, some ex-Hawks who weren't a fan of Evander in Winnipeg who could act as a character reference for him (not in a good way).

- Justin Lowe


Good teams can absorb a prima donna or two, like the Jordan Bulls did with Dennis Rodman, depending on the make up of the team. This year's Blackhawks are different than years past because so many of the guys that came up with Toews and Kane have moved on, I think the would make it easier for a player like Evander Kane to find a place in the locker room and on the ice.

If they did bring him in, they could conceivably move Schmaltz or AA to 3rd line center.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Nov 27 @ 4:42 PM ET
He's an even bigger issue to the team he's playing against with his speed, skill, and physicality. 23 points in 24 games on a terrible team. Think of what he could produce with Patrick Kane??? I find the "character" issues to be blown out of proportion given the nature of the NHL Media. Theoretically, those "character issues" should lower the price to acquire him via trade. Isn't part of why Bowman is paying Toews and Seabrook $17million a year to be Leaders and establish a locker room culture for players like E.Kane??
- EnzoD

At some point, you have to look at who the guy is. He's been a problem in 3 cities and more going back to juniors. Each of those teams has their leaders to keep guys on focus, but sometimes it just isn't gonna work. Maybe he's turned around? But he's been in legal trouble as recently as last season. A lot of risks come with a guy like that.
DarthKane
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Nov 27 @ 4:51 PM ET
He's an even bigger issue to the team he's playing against with his speed, skill, and physicality. 23 points in 24 games on a terrible team. Think of what he could produce with Patrick Kane??? I find the "character" issues to be blown out of proportion given the nature of the NHL Media. Theoretically, those "character issues" should lower the price to acquire him via trade. Isn't part of why Bowman is paying Toews and Seabrook $17million a year to be Leaders and establish a locker room culture for players like E.Kane??
- EnzoD



E Kane would be fine as a rental, but he's the poster child for warning signs for any long term deal. He's had issues for years, off and on, plus on the ice he's never lived up to his potential as a first round (4th overall) pick. Then, in the year where he's a pending UFA he puts it all together and performs at nearly a point per game basis? There are some serious red flags about his situation.
tvetter
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Joined: 12.16.2015

Nov 27 @ 4:53 PM ET
If Bowman were able to extend Evander Kane, then I would have no issue sending a college prospect like Sikura to acquire him. For a rental, I would not part with a high-upside player like Sikura as he appears to be the real deal (being selected for Canada's Pre-Olympic Roster is a good sign). Either way, if the goal is to try and win another Cup while Duncan Keith is still an Elite Dman, additions are needed to this roster, even with the emergence of Forsling as a 22+ minute/night player.
- EnzoD

If the salary cap goes up to 80M, can we extend him and resign our FA's?
DarthKane
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Nov 27 @ 5:01 PM ET
If the salary cap goes up to 80M, can we extend him and resign our FA's?
- tvetter



Not likely. The Hossa situation muddies the waters as the Hawks still need to be cap compliant on day 1.

The Hawks have 15 players signed for just over $64 million next season. That's $16 million left to sign about 7 players. Hayden and Hartman probably shouldn't need massive increases, but either Franson or Rutta could cost a pretty penny if the Hawks want to keep them. The year after that Schmaltz and Forsling are due for new contracts too, I wouldn't sign E Kane if that put signing those two in jeopardy.
EnzoD
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Nov 27 @ 5:02 PM ET
At some point, you have to look at who the guy is. He's been a problem in 3 cities and more going back to juniors. Each of those teams has their leaders to keep guys on focus, but sometimes it just isn't gonna work. Maybe he's turned around? But he's been in legal trouble as recently as last season. A lot of risks come with a guy like that.
- JRoenick97



I see where you are coming from and there is certainly risk involved with a guy like Evander Kane. But, Buffalo has a 20yr old Captain and a completely different team culture than the Hawks. Same can be said about Winnipeg 3 years ago. IF he could be extended, that would be a game changing addition to the Hawks for the next few years. He is only 26 and a prototype power forward sniper. High Risk = High Reward, right??
JRoenick97
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Nov 27 @ 5:06 PM ET
I see where you are coming from and there is certainly risk involved with a guy like Evander Kane. But, Buffalo has a 20yr old Captain and a completely different team culture than the Hawks. Same can be said about Winnipeg 3 years ago. IF he could be extended, that would be a game changing addition to the Hawks for the next few years. He is only 26 and a prototype power forward sniper. High Risk = High Reward, right??
- EnzoD

I just don't see the Hawks brass looking favorably to the first reporter asking why they traded for another guy with a sexual abuse claim against him. Regardless of the validity, it's a PR nightmare for a very PR driven team. I'm not saying he can't be a help to the team, I just don't see it going down.
Mr Ricochet
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Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
Overall that jump just shows more willingness to take the body, a trend that I'm sure, we've all noticed this year.

25th is not scary by any means, but their hits appear to be making more of a difference this year.

People may not like Lance Bouma, but he sure knows how to hit. Same with Wingels.

I don't take pleasure in seeing players get hurt, but it takes a toll on a team mentally and physically. Heck, Cody Franson even knocked a guy out of the game on Saturday (Dadonov).

I think this added physical presence puts them in a much better place come playoff time.

- Justin Lowe


Yes........... The newcomers on the 4th line, Hayden, Murphy, Franson, Hartman, Panik being hard to play against as well as taking the body helps with the culture as well as win hockey games. Even for a guy like Kaner big hits, physical play gets a bench invigorated, becomes infectious, breeds energy.

Panik has done his job. A couple hits a game, is on pace for nearly 200 shots, can work a cycle, will go to the paint and is on pace for 48 points with his shooting percentage 3% lower than his career number.

I have to think Q likes his "predictability" but if a better 1RW can be found that would make this lineup that much deeper.
Mr Ricochet
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Nov 27 @ 5:12 PM ET
it would really be smart to also get Kempny and OST in for a couple games and give Seabs, Maybe franson a night off. Kero should also draw in and give sharp the back to back's off.
- kmw4631


Agreed, but we all know Q doesn't like fooling with a lineup hat is winning.
EnzoD
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Nov 27 @ 5:12 PM ET
I just don't see the Hawks brass looking favorably to the first reporter asking why they traded for another guy with a sexual abuse claim against him. Regardless of the validity, it's a PR nightmare for a very PR driven team. I'm not saying he can't be a help to the team, I just don't see it going down.
- JRoenick97


Oh ya it's a pipe dream, but if STL acquires Evander Kane then watch out.....
JRoenick97
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Nov 27 @ 5:14 PM ET
Oh ya it's a pipe dream, but if STL acquires Evander Kane then watch out.....
- EnzoD

I don't think STL needs him to be honest. The Wild though...
Mr Ricochet
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Nov 27 @ 5:15 PM ET
The Hawks have never been a team that hits a lot, I'd rather them have the puck then worrying about checking to get the puck back. The 4th line is playing well and they're effective in their role. Stan did his job in that regard.
- DarthKane


Sure but when they line 4 across the blueline what are you going to do for an entry? There are times you have to give the thing up and retrieve.
Cmonalready
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 27 @ 5:38 PM ET
Not likely. The Hossa situation muddies the waters as the Hawks still need to be cap compliant on day 1.

The Hawks have 15 players signed for just over $64 million next season. That's $16 million left to sign about 7 players. Hayden and Hartman probably shouldn't need massive increases, but either Franson or Rutta could cost a pretty penny if the Hawks want to keep them. The year after that Schmaltz and Forsling are due for new contracts too, I wouldn't sign E Kane if that put signing those two in jeopardy.

- DarthKane


Can we talk about this? I didn't think this was an ongoing problem, that they had to get cap compliant every summer. I would guess if that's true he will be traded this winter or next summer to a cap floor team. $1m salary for $5m of cap hit is a positive. I just hope it doesnt t hawks too much.

Do they really have to include him on opening day roster next year and be cap compliant?
DarthKane
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Nov 27 @ 5:39 PM ET
Can we talk about this? I didn't think this was an ongoing problem, that they had to get cap compliant every summer. I would guess if that's true he will be traded this winter or next summer to a cap floor team. $1m salary for $5m of cap hit is a positive. I just hope it doesnt t hawks too much.

Do they really have to include him on opening day roster next year and be cap compliant?

- Cmonalready


Yes
Hawkster
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Nov 27 @ 5:43 PM ET
E. Kane.....1.Expensive 2.Potential character issues 3.FA next year and most likely only a rental.....

Would going after W. Simmonds not be a better idea (if available obviously)?

Signed for an extra year at a reasonable price - produces and tough as nails - to me a better option?
RickJ
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Nov 27 @ 5:55 PM ET
I see where you are coming from and there is certainly risk involved with a guy like Evander Kane. But, Buffalo has a 20yr old Captain and a completely different team culture than the Hawks. Same can be said about Winnipeg 3 years ago. IF he could be extended, that would be a game changing addition to the Hawks for the next few years. He is only 26 and a prototype power forward sniper. High Risk = High Reward, right??
- EnzoD


I can see what you like in E.Kane but IMO the Hawks know they have to concentrate on doing something to fix that defence group first - if a real good Dman becomes available that's where they would spend whatever resources they have. Who that might be, I have no clue.

Buffalo will hold onto Kane and wait for the best deal they can get before the deadline, which might not be as much as expected considering his personal resume.

Guys like Max Pacioretty or Rick Nash are more up the Blackhawk's alley.
matt_ahrens
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Nov 27 @ 5:58 PM ET
I can see what you like in E.Kane but IMO the Hawks know they have to concentrate on doing something to fix that defence group first - if a real good Dman becomes available that's where they would spend whatever resources they have. Who that might be, I have no clue.

Buffalo will hold onto Kane and wait for the best deal they can get before the deadline, which might not be as much as expected considering his personal resume.

Guys like Max Pacioretty or Rick Nash are more up the Blackhawk's alley.

- RickJ


E. Kane, Simmons, Pacioretty, Nash, etc... any one of them would be great. Someone. Get it done Stan! And a defenseman too.
EnzoD
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Nov 27 @ 5:58 PM ET
I can see what you like in E.Kane but IMO the Hawks know they have to concentrate on doing something to fix that defence group first - if a real good Dman becomes available that's where they would spend whatever resources they have. Who that might be, I have no clue.

Buffalo will hold onto Kane and wait for the best deal they can get before the deadline, which might not be as much as expected considering his personal resume.

Guys like Max Pacioretty or Rick Nash are more up the Blackhawk's alley.

- RickJ


Does the emergence of Forsling+Rutta as a reliable 2nd pair against a high Quality of Competition make the need for a Dman less urgent? Paccioretty would be awesome and Nash can still play. Should be interesting to see what, if anything, Bowman does.
L_B_R
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Nov 27 @ 6:13 PM ET
E. Kane.....1.Expensive 2.Potential character issues 3.FA next year and most likely only a rental.....

Would going after W. Simmonds not be a better idea (if available obviously)?

Signed for an extra year at a reasonable price - produces and tough as nails - to me a better option?

- Hawkster

Simmonds having a decent cap hit but not long term is going to be appealing to a lot of teams if Philly decides to move him, and Hextell would be wanting a lot of building block type of players back for Simmonds. Closer to a Kessel type return (1st, 3rd, top prospect in Kapanen, lower d-prospect in Harrington - possibly less cause Tor did retain salary).
L_B_R
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Nov 27 @ 6:15 PM ET
Does the emergence of Forsling+Rutta as a reliable 2nd pair against a high Quality of Competition make the need for a Dman less urgent? Paccioretty would be awesome and Nash can still play. Should be interesting to see what, if anything, Bowman does.
- EnzoD

I think the fact that there's unlikely to be a good top 4 defensemen available any time soon means that they should focus on the forwards.
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