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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:04 PM ET
This^^^
- JohnScammo

There will definitely be options out there for Lou. The reality is that the team that usually "wins" the trade deadline by landing the most coveted player, doesn't necessarily win the Cup. The way things are going this year, I'd look for talented guys that fit Trotz's game rather than going out and forking over a haul for the most skilled guy available.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:06 PM ET
Greiss just shut out the defending Cup champs, and was in net when they defeated the top team in the NHL, Tampa. I'm not so quick to say sayonara.
- JohnScammo

Greiss has played great the last two games, but he also allowed 10 goals in his three starts prior to TBL/WSH, including 4 goals to CAR and 3 to OTT.

He's hot and cold and if you have the chance to roll Sorokin/Lehner at a fair price...you dump Greiss and don't look back. He's got value, but I would take Sorokin/Lehner ten out of ten times over Sorokin/Greiss.
Wildschwein
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 21 @ 1:11 PM ET
I really like the idea of trying to add a Pageau or Dzingel instead of Duchene. Not that I'm against Duchene, but he'll be expensive and adding versatile defensive forwards that can score also may benefit the Isles just as much without forking over a ton of assets.
- eichiefs9


Dzingel for Wahlstrom and Calgary's 2nd sorta thing?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:13 PM ET
Dzingel for Wahlstrom and Calgary's 2nd sorta thing?
- Wildschwein

There isn't a chance in hell I'd trade Wahlstrom for Dzingel. I'd have a tough time ponying him up for Duchene. Dzingel won't be cheap, but he can't possibly be worth a top prospect and a reasonably-high pick.

I don't honestly have a clue what he'd cost. Something like Bellows and the better of our two 2nd's maybe would be more fair. He's having a really great year but he's a pending UFA with a career-high of 41pts.
Wildschwein
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 21 @ 1:13 PM ET
Well gentlemen, Kasper, it's official. Schwein will get to see his boy Lee play live on February 21st!

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 21 @ 1:17 PM ET
It's no guarantee he's as good in the NHL as in the KHL, but I'm pretty comfortable in saying that Sorokin is a more talented goaltender. There's also no guarantee Lehner replicates this season again.
- eichiefs9

Of course. Anything can happen but the same could be said for sorokin the kid could never come over here or he could come over and fall on his face.
Wildschwein
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 21 @ 1:17 PM ET
There isn't a chance in hell I'd trade Wahlstrom for Dzingel. I'd have a tough time ponying him up for Duchene. Dzingel won't be cheap, but he can't possibly be worth a top prospect and a reasonably-high pick.

I don't honestly have a clue what he'd cost. Something like Bellows and the better of our two 2nd's maybe would be more fair. He's having a really great year but he's a pending UFA with a career-high of 41pts.

- eichiefs9


Same said package for Pageau, or less?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 21 @ 1:18 PM ET
There will definitely be options out there for Lou. The reality is that the team that usually "wins" the trade deadline by landing the most coveted player, doesn't necessarily win the Cup. The way things are going this year, I'd look for talented guys that fit Trotz's game rather than going out and forking over a haul for the most skilled guy available.
- eichiefs9

How many Komarov’s and Kuhnackl’s do you think are out there? Those guys don’t grow on trees.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:19 PM ET
Well gentlemen, Kasper, it's official. Schwein will get to see his boy Lee play live on February 21st!


- Wildschwein



Make sure you take good care of him, we'll need him in good shape for the Pajama bloodbath a week later
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:20 PM ET
Same said package for Pageau, or less?
- Wildschwein

Same package as in the Wahlstrom one or the Bellows one?

I think something like the Bellows package is pretty fair for both sides. Pageau may cost a bit more because he's got another year on his deal, whereas Dzingel's is expiring.
Wildschwein
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 21 @ 1:20 PM ET


Make sure you take good care of him, we'll need him in good shape for the Pajama bloodbath a week later

- eichiefs9


If the Islanders franchise knows what's good for it, they won't let me within 100 meters of Lee.

Let's hope they don't.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 21 @ 1:21 PM ET
If Lehner finishes the season this strong i don’t see how you don’t re sign him. If that means moving Greiss so be it.
- kindlyrick

That’s because you do sign him. He’s a little bit of a wild card because of his addiction/bipolarism but you try to sign the guy none the less. Hopefully he doesn’t have unrealistic expectations of what he’s worth due to what I mentioned above.
Wildschwein
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 21 @ 1:22 PM ET
Same package as in the Wahlstrom one or the Bellows one?

I think something like the Bellows package is pretty fair for both sides. Pageau may cost a bit more because he's got another year on his deal, whereas Dzingel's is expiring.

- eichiefs9


The Bellows package.

Perhaps I'm guilty of recency bias, but I'm a bit higher on Bellows than Wahlstrom.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:24 PM ET
The Bellows package.

Perhaps I'm guilty of recency bias, but I'm a bit higher on Bellows than Wahlstrom.

- Wildschwein

I don't mean this as a slight to Bellows, but he's got 10g and 15pts in 43gp in the AHL. Wahlstrom isn't having a great freshman year at BC, but he had a good WJC and I think the talent is there. His shot is lethal and he's a damn good player.

Bellows is close, but Wahlstrom is the better player. Not going to give up on him after one subpar season.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 21 @ 1:28 PM ET
If the Islanders franchise knows what's good for it, they won't let me within 100 meters of Lee.

Let's hope they don't.

- Wildschwein

As long as he can skate when you’re done have at him.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
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Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:30 PM ET
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Wildschwein
Edmonton Oilers
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Jan 21 @ 1:30 PM ET
I don't mean this as a slight to Bellows, but he's got 10g and 15pts in 43gp in the AHL. Wahlstrom isn't having a great freshman year at BC, but he had a good WJC and I think the talent is there. His shot is lethal and he's a damn good player.

Bellows is close, but Wahlstrom is the better player. Not going to give up on him after one subpar season.

- eichiefs9


Fair, though I'd argue that trading any prospect to fill an immediate organizational need, does not necessarily qualify as "giving up" on said prospect.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 21 @ 1:31 PM ET
I'm not necessarily against ponying up a big package for Duchene, but there is a very real risk that he tests UFA no matter what. He's gotten this far and he may want to go to market to get top dollar on his last mega-contract.
- eichiefs9



He’s 100% going to test the market. This is his big conny, and he’s going to the highest bidder IMO.
Wildschwein
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 21 @ 1:32 PM ET
As long as he can skate when you’re done have at him.
- Cptmjl


kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 21 @ 1:32 PM ET
Greiss just shut out the defending Cup champs, and was in net when they defeated the top team in the NHL, Tampa. I'm not so quick to say sayonara.
- JohnScammo



We’ve seen both Greiss’ and if I’m picking between him and Lehner i gotta go with the drunk. Sorry. I’m not unhappy with Greiss i just gotta pick the story of the year.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
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Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:33 PM ET
Fair, though I'd argue that trading any prospect to fill an immediate organizational need, does not necessarily qualify as "giving up" on said prospect..
- Wildschwein

That was probably a poor choice of words, but I don't know if I'd consider Dzingel/Pageau major organizational needs. They'd be excellent versatile depth players that could handle bigger roles if guys go down, but they're not the answer to the second-line center question in the long-term.
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Jan 21 @ 1:34 PM ET
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Special K strikes again!
Wildschwein
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Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 21 @ 1:35 PM ET
That was probably a poor choice of words, but I don't know if I'd consider Dzingel/Pageau major organizational needs. They'd be excellent versatile depth players that could handle bigger roles if guys go down, but they're not the answer to the second-line center question in the long-term.
- eichiefs9


This is true.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:36 PM ET
Special K strikes again!
- Wildschwein

It's been really nice to see him excelling in his rookie year here. Even nicer that he's done it playing center, since that is without a doubt the position with the worst depth in the organization.

Joined: 12.31.1969

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