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niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 14 @ 2:22 PM ET
I’m a huge fan of Barkov, but giving away Bellows, Aho, Ho sang, Sorokin and a second??? I don’t love that trade personally. For Sorokin alone, i don’t love this trade. ESPECIALLY when the isles are winning, and the 1C is Barzals
- kindlyrick


For Barkov I would give up that and say.. ok what else u need to get this done?
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 14 @ 2:23 PM ET
Barkov is never, ever going anywhere until he's a free agent. One of the absolute best centers in the league.
- eichiefs9


very true but he is the one guy I would kill for that seems to fly under the Radar and if Gretzky can be traded.. certainly we can find a way to get Barkov.
Ddomnitch
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 14 @ 2:24 PM ET
Neither of us know that. But what we do know is this team is doing just fine with Nelson and Barzal as their top centers. So trading 5 assets, legit assets to address a problem that isn’t a problem isn’t great asset management
- kindlyrick


You're right we dont know that. I love the way this team is playing but there is clearly room for improvement. What do you think a fair trade for Barkov, who is a good young player and is under contract, would be?
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 14 @ 2:24 PM ET
Duchene isnt signing here
- Ddomnitch


Why not? Where is he going to sign that has cap room and is a playoff caliber team?
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 14 @ 2:27 PM ET
You're right we dont know that. I love the way this team is playing but there is clearly room for improvement. What do you think a fair trade for Barkov, who is a good young player and is under contract, would be?
- Ddomnitch


My guess is at least 1 younger player signed for a long time (Leddy), one or 2 elite prospects (wahlstrom, Dobson, Wilde, or Sorokin), and a first round pick or another prospect like Ho Sang.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:28 PM ET
very true but he is the one guy I would kill for that seems to fly under the Radar and if Gretzky can be traded.. certainly we can find a way to get Barkov.
- niteislander

This doesn't apply to anything ever. Everyone loves to say that but in reality Gretzky was sold by a cash-poor organization. He wasn't traded. Different era, no cap, not relevant.

Not only is Barkov a top-10 center in the league but he's 23 and on a contract that comically-underpays him. Not to mention the Panthers aren't exactly rolling in money, so I'm positive that they're not going to trade him for that package.

Sure the Isles could put together a package that maybe they'd move him for, but I can promise you it's not going to include any of the guys in that deal besides Sorokin. It would be so comically cost-prohibitive to the Islanders that it's not even worth discussing.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 14 @ 2:28 PM ET
Duchene isnt signing here
- Ddomnitch


Really? and why not?

kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 14 @ 2:28 PM ET
You're right we dont know that. I love the way this team is playing but there is clearly room for improvement. What do you think a fair trade for Barkov, who is a good young player and is under contract, would be?
- Ddomnitch


I think the isles have legit talent and finally have the coaching. It’s a team sport and they’re playing unbelievable as a unit. This isn’t the season or the time to change the course of the ship. I wouldn’t make a trade like that for 2-3 years. Let’s see what they have. I believe they have tremendous assets who show signs of being NHL elite.
Ddomnitch
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 14 @ 2:29 PM ET
Why not? Where is he going to sign that has cap room and is a playoff caliber team?
- niteislander



Don't get me wrong, I would like to have him. I just can't imagine (unless we grossly overpay) that he will pick us.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:29 PM ET
Really? and why not?
- nyisles7

Because we're trading Sorokin and some other things for Barkov
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 14 @ 2:29 PM ET
This doesn't apply to anything ever. Everyone loves to say that but in reality Gretzky was sold by a cash-poor organization. He wasn't traded. Different era, no cap, not relevant.

Not only is Barkov a top-10 center in the league but he's 23 and on a contract that comically-underpays him. Not to mention the Panthers aren't exactly rolling in money, so I'm positive that they're not going to trade him for that package.

Sure the Isles could put together a package that maybe they'd move him for, but I can promise you it's not going to include any of the guys in that deal besides Sorokin. It would be so comically cost-prohibitive to the Islanders that it's not even worth discussing.

- eichiefs9



The panthers attendance may be crap but they’re owned by Vinnie Viola....Multi Billionare
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:31 PM ET
The panthers attendance may be crap but they’re owned by Vinnie Viola....Multi Billionare
- kindlyrick

and I'm sure that he didn't get that rich by dumping insanely-valuable assets for a collective of significantly-less-valuable assets
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 14 @ 2:33 PM ET
Because we're trading Sorokin and some other things for Barkov
- eichiefs9



It's for comic relief I visit

I have heard the opposite on Duchene which means absolutely nothing. I believe the Isles would love to sign him and he also does fit our specific needs as far as PP, FO's, Etc.
How great would it be if Duchene who was picked after Pajama putz came here and won a cup before he did.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:34 PM ET
Great apologies to our swine-friend for having to see this again, but:



Sell high on Dal Colle
Ddomnitch
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 14 @ 2:36 PM ET


It's for comic relief I visit

I have heard the opposite on Duchene which means absolutely nothing. I believe the Isles would love to sign him and he also does fit our specific needs as far as PP, FO's.
How great would it be if Duchene who was picked after Pajama putz came here and won a cup before he did.

- nyisles7



I would love to have him but we dont have the best track record of top UFAs wanting to sign here. So instead of hoping that he comes i would rather Lou go out and get someone who is under contract.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jan 14 @ 2:39 PM ET
Great apologies to our swine-friend for having to see this again, but:



Sell high on Dal Colle

- eichiefs9


Any chance they'd take Komarov?
Wildschwein
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 14 @ 2:40 PM ET
Any chance they'd take Komarov?
- JimmyP


eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:41 PM ET

- Wildschwein

kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 14 @ 2:47 PM ET
and I'm sure that he didn't get that rich by dumping insanely-valuable assets for a collective of significantly-less-valuable assets
- eichiefs9



Hahahah pleaseeeeee. You’ve def got a Sorokin jersey
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 14 @ 2:49 PM ET
and I'm sure that he didn't get that rich by dumping insanely-valuable assets for a collective of significantly-less-valuable assets
- eichiefs9



Hahahah he was chairman of the commodity exchange and started virtu which was an electronic trading company before electronic trading was a thing. Went public and he made billions. Close second to trading 5 assets for Barkov.....who’s not in the top 20 in pts. And a -18
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
Hahahah pleaseeeeee. You’ve def got a Sorokin jersey
- kindlyrick

Oh I love Sorokin. But if you're Tallon or Viola and you're talking about trading a bonafide superstar are you really going to trade him for a guy who said he didn't want to come to the Islanders until they had a better coaching/front-office staff in place?

There is a very large probability that he would never even come over to play for the Panthers and then he would have basically just traded a superstar two-way center for a few complimentary pieces and a 2nd round pick.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
Great apologies to our swine-friend for having to see this again, but:



Sell high on Dal Colle

- eichiefs9


McDavid would be a slight upgrade over Fili for MDC.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:52 PM ET


It's for comic relief I visit

I have heard the opposite on Duchene which means absolutely nothing. I believe the Isles would love to sign him and he also does fit our specific needs as far as PP, FO's, Etc.
How great would it be if Duchene who was picked after Pajama putz came here and won a cup before he did.

- nyisles7


I'd be worried if Lou and Barry could not entice Duchene to sign and especially with the Isles having a better than expected season and Belmont in 2 years.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
I would love to have him but we dont have the best track record of top UFAs wanting to sign here. So instead of hoping that he comes i would rather Lou go out and get someone who is under contract.
- Ddomnitch


I don't think Lou would commit any assets if Duchene wasn't committed to a long term commitment.
That would be if in fact he would trade for him versus signing him as a FA where that wouldn't even come into play. This isn't Lou's first rodeo.

Duchene is a perfect fit for the Islanders as far as 2C / 3C and is excellent in the FO dot and PP which as we know the team could use help in.

With Barzal, Duchene, Nelson and CC down the middle this team is very formidable up the middle.

Don't count The Islanders out on Duchene. They are not the same dip shat run team they were the last 2 decades. Evidenced by the by the GM and Coaching changes in the last year.
On top of their prospect pool being strong and a new Arena on the horizon, taking this all into consideration I don't think The Islanders can be discounted by FA's as they have been in the past. Just my opinion, only time will tell.

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