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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:34 PM ET
Exactly! You have a winning GM and coach with still good pieces to work around and they would have a ton of money and prospects to move if needed.
- ses111

Trotz is most likely going to do more for this team than any of us are envisioning. Our coaching has been that BAD for years. You may see a player like Nelson supercede expectations if he's not traded. If he makes a couple key trades and some players perform at or a little beyond expectations the team very well may surprise without tavares. That actually may be a best case scenario rather than being handcuffed to an inflated contract for 8 years.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 1:37 PM ET
Trotz is most likely going to do more for this team than any of us are envisioning. Our coaching has been that BAD for years. You may see a player like Nelson supercede expectations if he's not traded. If he makes a couple key trades and some players perform at or a little beyond expectations the team very well may surprise without tavares.
- Cptmjl


Exactly Cpt. Team is not as bad as Garth, Cappy, and Doug made it seem. Yes they need a goalie and some D but Trotz can fix a lot of the issues this team has. Again we have seen teams with less talent than the Isles make a Cup.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:37 PM ET
I don't think they would have to start from scratch. They would have a ton of cash and prospects to make some deals. Yeah its a setback but not to the point you tear it down and rebuild IMO
- Vukota



I dont disagree......I dont think its a complete rebuild. But, having 91 stay means they are way closer to the end goal. If Tavares walks, its a few year set back. I think we are all done with waiting....
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:37 PM ET
Exactly Cpt. Team is not as bad as Garth, Cappy, and Doug made it seem. Yes they need a goalie and some D but Trotz can fix a lot of the issues this team has. Again we have seen teams with less talent than the Isles make a Cup.
- ses111

Upstate is usually looking for some D.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:38 PM ET
It's not apples to kwiis. You make the playoffs and you can make a run and especially with a coach that has already won a Cup. Yes they lose the offense without JT but they still have very good players on offense and they can add more. They do not have to replace JT with another JT and the defense should be better now so less offense is needed.
- ses111



Let me be the first to remind you that this team sucked with Tavares. Losing him means you arent making the playoffs for a few years. Lou and Trotz are great, but if 91 walks, we're in for a few more years of waiting.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 1:40 PM ET
Let me be the first to remind you that this team sucked with Tavares. Losing him means you arent making the playoffs for a few years.
- kindlyrick


Sucked with JT, Garth, Cappy, and Doug. New people running the team now. No idea how you say they are not making the playoffs without JT before seeing any of Lou's moves and seeing what Trotz does with coaching?
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 1:40 PM ET
Upstate is usually looking for some D.
- Cptmjl


eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 28 @ 1:44 PM ET
re: Those other hires Lou may make:

James Mirtle
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@mirtle

Maple Leafs have made some staff changes. Jacques Lemaire, Jacques Caron, Nikolai Ladygin, Evgeny Namestnikov and Tommy Albelin have all left the organization.

First two were special assignment coaches with ties to Lamoriello. Other three in scouting department.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 28 @ 1:45 PM ET
Pardon me, would you happen to have any Grey Popoun?
- Cptmjl


kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:45 PM ET
Sucked with JT, Garth, Cappy, and Doug. New people running the team now. No idea how you say they are not making the playoffs without JT before seeing any of Lou's moves and seeing what Trotz does with coaching?
- ses111



Your argument is all guessing. Im stating facts. I do agree the isles are much better off with Trotz and Lou, but they arent going to wave a magic wand and make the isles a perennial playoff team. You need the horses. For the last 8 years, we've been touting Tavares as the isles franchise player, and a top 10 player in the league. If said player decides to leave, make no mistake the isles are gonna feel it. That being said, i loved this years draft and I think the isles are trending upward no matter what. So theres that...
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 1:46 PM ET
re: Those other hires Lou may make:

James Mirtle
‏Verified account
@mirtle

Maple Leafs have made some staff changes. Jacques Lemaire, Jacques Caron, Nikolai Ladygin, Evgeny Namestnikov and Tommy Albelin have all left the organization.

First two were special assignment coaches with ties to Lamoriello. Other three in scouting department.

- eichiefs9


Have to think Lemaire and Caron join Lou.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:47 PM ET
re: Those other hires Lou may make:

James Mirtle
‏Verified account
@mirtle

Maple Leafs have made some staff changes. Jacques Lemaire, Jacques Caron, Nikolai Ladygin, Evgeny Namestnikov and Tommy Albelin have all left the organization.

First two were special assignment coaches with ties to Lamoriello. Other three in scouting department.

- eichiefs9


Tommy Albelin was a long time Devil too
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 28 @ 1:48 PM ET
re: Those other hires Lou may make:

James Mirtle
‏Verified account
@mirtle

Maple Leafs have made some staff changes. Jacques Lemaire, Jacques Caron, Nikolai Ladygin, Evgeny Namestnikov and Tommy Albelin have all left the organization.

First two were special assignment coaches with ties to Lamoriello. Other three in scouting department.

- eichiefs9


Heard the Isles have hired a couple new coaches this week but no names released. I was hoping 1 was Stevens however i wouldn't mind the 2 Jacques to join the isles staff.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:49 PM ET
Heard the Isles have hired a couple new coaches this week but no names released. I was hoping 1 was Stevens however i wouldn't mind the 2 Jacques to join the isles staff.
- nyisles7



Why Greg Cronin wasn't doin it for ya???
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 1:49 PM ET
Your argument is all guessing. Im stating facts. I do agree the isles are much better off with Trotz and Lou, but they arent going to wave a magic wand and make the isles a perennial playoff team. You need the horses. For the last 8 years, we've been touting Tavares as the isles franchise player, and a top 10 player in the league. If said player decides to leave, make no mistake the isles are gonna feel it. That being said, i loved this years draft and I think the isles are trending upward no matter what. So theres that...
- kindlyrick


Sorry Rick you are the one guessing stating they will not make the playoffs for a few years. I'm not saying they win the Cup or even playoffs next year. I'm just not ready to write everything off without JT. As good a player he is, JT is not Matthews, McDavid, Crosby, Malkin, or Ovi. We will just agree to disagree and move on.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 1:50 PM ET
Heard the Isles have hired a couple new coaches this week but no names released. I was hoping 1 was Stevens however i wouldn't mind the 2 Jacques to join the isles staff.
- nyisles7


More winners the better.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 28 @ 1:51 PM ET
Why Greg Cronin wasn't doin it for ya???
- kindlyrick

"Make me happy, bring back Cappy"
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:54 PM ET
Sorry Rick you are the one guessing stating they will not make the playoffs for a few years. I'm not saying they win the Cup or even playoffs next year. I'm just not ready to write everything off without JT. As good a player he is, JT is not Matthews, McDavid, Crosby, Malkin, or Ovi. We will just agree to disagree and move on.
- ses111



We can agree to disagree, but like I said, if 91 leaves, the isles are gonna feel it. He's not so easily replaced. Its a fact that if he walks you're losing north of 80 pts a year, a coupla GWG's, and one of the best centers below the hash marks. Let me also add that it was 91 who single handily carried the isles on his back and won them their first playoff round since 1993. I dont think that's replaced by Bozak and JVR, with or without Lou and Barry.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 28 @ 1:58 PM ET
Why Greg Cronin wasn't doin it for ya???
- kindlyrick


kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:58 PM ET
"Make me happy, bring back Cappy"
- eichiefs9



Im shocked that Jack Capuano wasn't hired as an NHL head coach yet. Scott Gordon too......
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:59 PM ET
Sorry Rick you are the one guessing stating they will not make the playoffs for a few years. I'm not saying they win the Cup or even playoffs next year. I'm just not ready to write everything off without JT. As good a player he is, JT is not Matthews, McDavid, Crosby, Malkin, or Ovi. We will just agree to disagree and move on.
- ses111



Id love to see a statistic that shows the isles record with JT in the lineup, vs without. Im sure its a landslide...
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 2:00 PM ET
We can agree to disagree, but like I said, if 91 leaves, the isles are gonna feel it. He's not so easily replaced. Its a fact that if he walks you're losing north of 80 pts a year, a coupla GWG's, and one of the best centers below the hash marks. Let me also add that it was 91 who single handily carried the isles on his back and won them their first playoff round since 1993. I dont think that's replaced by Bozak and JVR, with or without Lou and Barry.
- kindlyrick


Greiss had a lot to do with that playoff win as well. As good as JT is, you have to factor in his lousy defense and lousy SO record and playing most of the OT. Let's hope JT stays and we do not have to worry about replacing him.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 2:01 PM ET
Id love to see a statistic that shows the isles record with JT in the lineup, vs without. Im sure its a landslide...
- kindlyrick


Record with JT doing not much the last few months last year was not good.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:01 PM ET
Greiss had a lot to do with that playoff win as well. As good as JT is, you have to factor in his lousy defense and lousy SO record and playing most of the OT. Let's hope JT stays and we do not have to worry about replacing him.
- ses111




This is the only part of your post i will touch on hah

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