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kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 9 @ 8:39 AM ET
This entire game was lost because special teams (the PP) couldn’t get it done. I’m not sure what the problem is but it seems like they try and be too pretty. Not enough guys throw it at the net. Either way the isles could have tied that game and the fact that Nelson scores to make it 4-3 shows you what a different team this is. Even with the loss this team is really gelling. Trotz is a WORLD of difference.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:10 AM ET
Bingo
- Vukota


Yes?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 9 @ 9:15 AM ET
This entire game was lost because special teams (the PP) couldn’t get it done. I’m not sure what the problem is but it seems like they try and be too pretty. Not enough guys throw it at the net. Either way the isles could have tied that game and the fact that Nelson scores to make it 4-3 shows you what a different team this is. Even with the loss this team is really gelling. Trotz is a WORLD of difference.
- kindlyrick

I would think they would have to be looking at Gomez at this point. Been seeing the same thing since the opening game this season with the same result. The guy doesn’t have an answer obviously on how to fix the power play. If we had a decent power play we have an additional 10 or 12 points and lead the division.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:23 AM ET
I would like to thank the Isles PP and Leo Komarov for helping the Hurricanes remain undefeated in 2019.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jan 9 @ 9:27 AM ET
I would think they would have to be looking at Gomez at this point. Been seeing the same thing since the opening game this season with the same result. The guy doesn’t have an answer obviously on how to fix the power play. If we had a decent power play we have an additional 10 or 12 points and lead the division.
- Cptmjl


Not quite. I looked at the numbers. The Isles PP is 15.7%. If they were 20.0% (that would be 15th in the NHL) they would have another 5.2 goals. That may be another 2 or 3 points in the standings but it's not earth shattering. They don't draw a lot of penalties. The numbers are close but currently they are 26th in PP opportunities.

They still need to make a change. A 15.7% power play percentage is unacceptable.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 9:31 AM ET
thoughts on last night... I feel like we controlled the play for most of the game but came out short.
good: I thought MDC had a good game. Nelson had a very good game obviously, so did Eberle, and Toews.

Bad: Greiss wasn't very good in his first game in a while.
Leddy is really just not very good at this point.
Bailey had a few really bad give aways... So did Barzal.
Leo- awful penalty.
I can't for the life of me understand our PP. We have 3 really solid PP D-men that can be on the point. Pulock, Johnny B, and Toews are perfect for a PP point guy and we go with Barzall and Leddy on first PP unit. I don't understand it.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:32 AM ET
thoughts on last night... I feel like we controlled the play for most of the game but came out short.
good: I thought MDC had a good game. Nelson had a very good game obviously, so did Eberle, and Toews.

Bad: Greiss wasn't very good in his first game in a while.
Leddy is really just not very good at this point.
Bailey had a few really bad give aways... So did Barzal.
Leo- awful penalty.
I can't for the life of me understand our PP. We have 3 really solid PP D-men that can be on the point. Pulock, Johnny B, and Toews are perfect for a PP point guy and we go with Barzall and Leddy on first PP unit. I don't understand it.

- niteislander


Gomez will figure it out.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 9:35 AM ET
One last thing... when Leo took that penalty they had Barzall on the PK which I get.. but he we at the Red line looking for a break away when we didn't even have the puck. That was why Slavin was able to walk in like that.. wtf was that all about..

I mean take off once they shoot the puck by all means.. but to be sitting on the red line while they were passing the puck around was just odd. turned it into a 5-on-3.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:35 AM ET
Not quite. I looked at the numbers. The Isles PP is 15.7%. If they were 20.0% (that would be 15th in the NHL) they would have another 5.2 goals. That may be another 2 or 3 points in the standings but it's not earth shattering. They don't draw a lot of penalties. The numbers are close but currently they are 26th in PP opportunities.

They still need to make a change. A 15.7% power play percentage is unacceptable.

- JimmyP


Doesn't sound like a lot, but three points in the standings moves them from outside the playoffs altogether to third place in the division, and just one point out of second with two games in hand.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:37 AM ET
One last thing... when Leo took that penalty they had Barzall on the PK which I get.. but he we at the Red line looking for a break away when we didn't even have the puck. That was why Slavin was able to walk in like that.. wtf was that all about..

I mean take off once they shoot the puck by all means.. but to be sitting on the red line while they were passing the puck around was just odd. turned it into a 5-on-3.

- niteislander


Is that where he was? I didn't really understand what happened there. The Canes had the puck and then all of a sudden it was a 5-on-3 for no apparent reason. I kept waiting for another Islander to come charging back into the zone and it just never happened.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:40 AM ET
One last thing... when Leo took that penalty they had Barzall on the PK which I get.. but he we at the Red line looking for a break away when we didn't even have the puck. That was why Slavin was able to walk in like that.. wtf was that all about..

I mean take off once they shoot the puck by all means.. but to be sitting on the red line while they were passing the puck around was just odd. turned it into a 5-on-3.

- niteislander


I think at that point you just have to hope for a lot of luck and an insanely friendly bounce. The penalty was going to take up almost the entire rest of the game, so if they killed it even remotely as a traditional penalty, that would have been the end of it anyway.

Really, the way it worked out probably gave them a better chance to tie it up. Instead of killing the penalty without surrendering a goal and having no time left to tie it up, they gave up the goal, which ended the power play, got one back quick, and had something like 36 seconds at even strength to tie it up. But, their troubles last night started and ended with their power play. Leo's penalty and everything after it, while frustrating, happened after the damage was already done.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 9 @ 9:43 AM ET
I would like to thank the Isles PP and Leo Komarov for helping the Hurricanes remain undefeated in 2019.
- BINGO!


ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 9 @ 9:43 AM ET
Gomez will figure it out.
- UIF


Or Cal.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 9 @ 9:44 AM ET
I think at that point you just have to hope for a lot of luck and an insanely friendly bounce. The penalty was going to take up almost the entire rest of the game, so if they killed it even remotely as a traditional penalty, that would have been the end of it anyway.

Really, the way it worked out probably gave them a better chance to tie it up. Instead of killing the penalty without surrendering a goal and having no time left to tie it up, they gave up the goal, which ended the power play, got one back quick, and had something like 36 seconds at even strength to tie it up. But, their troubles last night started and ended with their power play. Leo's penalty and everything after it, while frustrating, happened after the damage was already done.

- UIF

You blame the power play for last night's loss??? I blame Ho Sang. The guy was just invisible last night.

If you will allow me to beat the dead horse one last time, not sure anyone posted a link to this article, but I found the possession stats interesting.....
https://eyesonisles.com/2...icably-send-josh-ho-sang/
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 9:44 AM ET
Not quite. I looked at the numbers. The Isles PP is 15.7%. If they were 20.0% (that would be 15th in the NHL) they would have another 5.2 goals. That may be another 2 or 3 points in the standings but it's not earth shattering. They don't draw a lot of penalties. The numbers are close but currently they are 26th in PP opportunities.

They still need to make a change. A 15.7% power play percentage is unacceptable.

- JimmyP

most of the games they are 0- on the PP we lose by a goal. We have at least a couple of 5-on-3 PP goals too. Games like last night if we just had 1 PP goal on the 3 chances we get AT LEAST a point out of that game. 3 or 4 points is HUGE in standings . It's very hard to catch people b/c so many games have 3 points to teams playing. When you have a game that you fail to get even 1 point it's a HUGE deal.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 9:46 AM ET
Is that where he was? I didn't really understand what happened there. The Canes had the puck and then all of a sudden it was a 5-on-3 for no apparent reason. I kept waiting for another Islander to come charging back into the zone and it just never happened.
- BINGO!


I was at the game which is why I could see it... it wasn't shown on TV from what I saw.. it was just so friggin odd. like when you are watching a roller hockey game and that one kid is "hanging" waiting for a pass.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 9 @ 9:46 AM ET
most of the games they are 0- on the PP we lose by a goal. We have at least a couple of 5-on-3 PP goals too. Games like last night if we just had 1 PP goal on the 3 chances we get AT LEAST a point out of that game. 3 or 4 points is HUGE in standings . It's very hard to catch people b/c so many games have 3 points to teams playing. When you have a game that you fail to get even 1 point it's a HUGE deal.
- niteislander

Especially in a home game.....to a team trailing in the standings.....
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 9:47 AM ET
I think at that point you just have to hope for a lot of luck and an insanely friendly bounce. The penalty was going to take up almost the entire rest of the game, so if they killed it even remotely as a traditional penalty, that would have been the end of it anyway.

Really, the way it worked out probably gave them a better chance to tie it up. Instead of killing the penalty without surrendering a goal and having no time left to tie it up, they gave up the goal, which ended the power play, got one back quick, and had something like 36 seconds at even strength to tie it up. But, their troubles last night started and ended with their power play. Leo's penalty and everything after it, while frustrating, happened after the damage was already done.

- UIF


I get having him ready to go... it just looked so odd as they were passing the puck around and he was sitting up by the red line. I am sure when Trotz told him to try and hang a bit that wasn't what he intended. I mean we did score again...
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 9:48 AM ET
Nice tribute video for de Haan by the way.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 9 @ 9:55 AM ET
You blame the power play for last night's loss??? I blame Ho Sang. The guy was just invisible last night.

If you will allow me to beat the dead horse one last time, not sure anyone posted a link to this article, but I found the possession stats interesting.....
https://eyesonisles.com/2...icably-send-josh-ho-sang/

- JohnScammo




JHS obviously was not a huge key to the Isles winning, but the team was winning and he adds much needed speed. I would have keep him up with the team and you can always sit him when needed.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:59 AM ET
I was at the game which is why I could see it... it wasn't shown on TV from what I saw.. it was just so friggin odd. like when you are watching a roller hockey game and that one kid is "hanging" waiting for a pass.
- niteislander


I mean, I get the idea of it, but when it's that tight and you've done a pretty good job of controlling the game for the most part, you might want to at least make sure you get the puck first.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 9 @ 10:03 AM ET
Not quite. I looked at the numbers. The Isles PP is 15.7%. If they were 20.0% (that would be 15th in the NHL) they would have another 5.2 goals. That may be another 2 or 3 points in the standings but it's not earth shattering. They don't draw a lot of penalties. The numbers are close but currently they are 26th in PP opportunities.

They still need to make a change. A 15.7% power play percentage is unacceptable.

- JimmyP

Oh ok. Always seems like we’re leaving points on the table in games where we get a late pp down by a goal. Remember it happening multiple times so far in the season guess it doesn’t jive with the numbers.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jan 9 @ 10:07 AM ET
You blame the power play for last night's loss??? I blame Ho Sang. The guy was just invisible last night.

If you will allow me to beat the dead horse one last time, not sure anyone posted a link to this article, but I found the possession stats interesting.....
https://eyesonisles.com/2...icably-send-josh-ho-sang/

- JohnScammo



I thought he was more valuable plugged into the bottom six than he would be in the top six because of those possession stats. He'd need to put up more points to be in the top six. But the bottom six as its constructed is pretty much there to manage the game/gain momentum until the top-six is ready to go again (we hear all the time about the value of other bottom-six players who aren't exactly lighting up the score board), and I think he did more good than bad when it comes to that...had the puck on his stick a lot, drew penalties, and even, for the first time, came back hard on D and created some turnovers.

But...I did say a while back that, in the AHL, he was still good for a couple of bonehead passes through the middle per game. I'd say he cleaned that up quite a bit in his run with the Isles compared to what I saw in BPort, but you guys still noticed some of that in his NHL games.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 9 @ 10:07 AM ET
One last thing... when Leo took that penalty they had Barzall on the PK which I get.. but he we at the Red line looking for a break away when we didn't even have the puck. That was why Slavin was able to walk in like that.. wtf was that all about..

I mean take off once they shoot the puck by all means.. but to be sitting on the red line while they were passing the puck around was just odd. turned it into a 5-on-3.

- niteislander

We’re going to hold you to that.😉

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