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Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 11 @ 12:20 PM ET
OK, so what I like about Trotz is his accountability. He makes guys EARN their ice time. He makes guys EARN their time on top lines. He and Lou make guys EARN their call-ups from Bridgeport. You don't just get top 6 ice time, because you lack defensive hockey skills, and so you'd be useless in the bottom 6. He made Ovechkin learn to play defensively responsible hockey. Why shouldn't that apply to Islander forwards?
- JohnScammo

ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 11 @ 12:22 PM ET
OK, so what I like about Trotz is his accountability. He makes guys EARN their ice time. He makes guys EARN their time on top lines. He and Lou make guys EARN their call-ups from Bridgeport. You don't just get top 6 ice time, because you lack defensive hockey skills, and so you'd be useless in the bottom 6. He made Ovechkin learn to play defensively responsible hockey. Why shouldn't that apply to Islander forwards?
- JohnScammo


If you played well in Bridge to get the call up why the need to be in the pressbox? If you are not doing the right things in Bridge how do you get the call up? If every game is so critical to the Isles, why is Leo used in the SO? Is it critical for the Isles to make the playoffs this year or is it more important to get a look at certain players so you know what you have? I'm done with this convo as only Lou and Barry know what is going on.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 11 @ 12:25 PM ET
If you played well in Bridge to get the call up why the need to be in the pressbox? If you are not doing the right things in Bridge how do you get the call up? If every game is so critical to the Isles, why is Leo used in the SO? Is it critical for the Isles to make the playoffs this year or is it more important to get a look at certain players so you know what you have? I'm done with this convo as only Lou and Barry know what is going on.
- ses111

If only they know whats going on then why are you always questioning their every move?
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Dec 11 @ 12:44 PM ET
If only they know whats going on then why are you always questioning their every move?
- Upstate_isles

Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 11 @ 2:42 PM ET
Few things here.

1)im not a pelech fan by any means but you cant hold a 5-6 dman accountable for isles not winning the game. I dont expect a 5-6 dman not to make a mistake in game.
The reality is we had 4 PP including one being 4 on 3 in OT. Thats should of been sealed win b/c i can tell you if Pens had pp game would of been immediately over in OT.
2) Biggest underachievers relative to their roles are Eberle, Leddy, Clutterbuck, Barzal and Pulock. These are guys that should be getting it down, Not Mayfield or Pelech. In Fact im going to say Mayfield actually has delivered way to upside relative to his 1.4M a year salary. He keeps it simple and get shots on net.
3) what they are doing with JHS and these mind games is not right. why is JHS the scapegoat here. does he turn over the puck any less than Barzal has this year. One thing is true and that he is a dynamic player. Last year he should have never been sent down.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Dec 11 @ 2:44 PM ET
If only they know whats going on then why are you always questioning their every move?
- Upstate_isles


After watching Komarov I'm questioning a lot. First and foremost I am questioning whether Trotz has some pregame cocktails with Butchie last night.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 11 @ 2:47 PM ET
Any status on Clutterbuck b/c this could be another ladd like blessing in disguise.
Lineup id like to see next game.

Beau, Barzal Bailey
Lee, Nelson, JHS
Uncle LEO, Filip, Eberle
Martin, Zeeker, Ross J.

What we will see is how unimportant Clutterbuck has been last 2 years and it will put some fire under Eberle arz to stop playing like a 4th liner. 6 goals YTD is embarrassing.

Subtract Ladd and Clutterbuck and thats 9m to lock in Lee, Nelson and whomever else. Eberle playing himself off this team (I guess that is what happend in EDM too)
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 11 @ 2:49 PM ET
After watching Komarov I'm questioning a lot. First and foremost I am questioning whether Trotz has some pregame cocktails with Butchie last night.
- JimmyP


yes that komarov shootout choice was questionable. But i guess all the stars have not gotten it down and he was sending a message. Komarov has been everything you need him to be as 3rd liner. I have no complaint here. Its not his fault he has no hands. But he physical and in good position often.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 11 @ 3:17 PM ET
After watching Komarov I'm questioning a lot. First and foremost I am questioning whether Trotz has some pregame cocktails with Butchie last night.
- JimmyP

I cant speak for barry but i did if that helps
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 11 @ 3:17 PM ET
After watching Komarov I'm questioning a lot. First and foremost I am questioning whether Trotz has some pregame cocktails with Butchie last night.
- JimmyP




The hiring of Lou and Barry does not mean we do not get to question any of there moves. i get fans are happy Garth and Cappy are out. Not playing Ho Sang against a skilled team like the Pens when the offense is struggling and playing both Johnston and Martin is an odd choice and Leo on the shootout is very odd.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 11 @ 3:17 PM ET
Any status on Clutterbuck b/c this could be another ladd like blessing in disguise.
Lineup id like to see next game.

Beau, Barzal Bailey
Lee, Nelson, JHS
Uncle LEO, Filip, Eberle
Martin, Zeeker, Ross J.

What we will see is how unimportant Clutterbuck has been last 2 years and it will put some fire under Eberle arz to stop playing like a 4th liner. 6 goals YTD is embarrassing.

Subtract Ladd and Clutterbuck and thats 9m to lock in Lee, Nelson and whomever else. Eberle playing himself off this team (I guess that is what happend in EDM too)

- Spartiarti

I don’t think it’s much of a disguise at this point. Clutterbuck is terrible. Him being out long term is a positive for this team. Big plus is it’ll force our coaching staff to not “utilize” him on our power play which he should’ve been jettisoned from a month and a half ago. How anyone can wonder why our power play sucks and leave that (frank)ing guy out there is beyond me.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 11 @ 3:19 PM ET
Few things here.

1)im not a pelech fan by any means but you cant hold a 5-6 dman accountable for isles not winning the game. I dont expect a 5-6 dman not to make a mistake in game.
The reality is we had 4 PP including one being 4 on 3 in OT. Thats should of been sealed win b/c i can tell you if Pens had pp game would of been immediately over in OT.
2) Biggest underachievers relative to their roles are Eberle, Leddy, Clutterbuck, Barzal and Pulock. These are guys that should be getting it down, Not Mayfield or Pelech. In Fact im going to say Mayfield actually has delivered way to upside relative to his 1.4M a year salary. He keeps it simple and get shots on net.
3) what they are doing with JHS and these mind games is not right. why is JHS the scapegoat here. does he turn over the puck any less than Barzal has this year. One thing is true and that he is a dynamic player. Last year he should have never been sent down.

- Spartiarti

Without a doubt our best defenseman so far this season. Yeah he’s not putting the offensive numbers he can but I think that has more to do with Trotz having him focus on defense and he has done that better than anyone else imo.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 11 @ 3:22 PM ET
Without a doubt our best defenseman so far this season. Yeah he’s not putting the offensive numbers he can but I think that has more to do with Trotz having him focus on defense and he has done that better than anyone else.
- Cptmjl


Pulock is the least of the issues. We've all gotten on Leddy and Eberle. Does not mean Pelech's bad play does not hurt either even if he is not seen a top 4 dman.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 11 @ 3:23 PM ET
Few things here.

1)im not a pelech fan by any means but you cant hold a 5-6 dman accountable for isles not winning the game. I dont expect a 5-6 dman not to make a mistake in game.
The reality is we had 4 PP including one being 4 on 3 in OT. Thats should of been sealed win b/c i can tell you if Pens had pp game would of been immediately over in OT.
2) Biggest underachievers relative to their roles are Eberle, Leddy, Clutterbuck, Barzal and Pulock. These are guys that should be getting it down, Not Mayfield or Pelech. In Fact im going to say Mayfield actually has delivered way to upside relative to his 1.4M a year salary. He keeps it simple and get shots on net.
3) what they are doing with JHS and these mind games is not right. why is JHS the scapegoat here. does he turn over the puck any less than Barzal has this year. One thing is true and that he is a dynamic player. Last year he should have never been sent down.

- Spartiarti

Even when he’s directly responsible for the loss?😂
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM ET
Pulock is the least of the issues. We've all gotten on Leddy and Eberle. Does not mean Pelech's bad play does not hurt either even if he is not seen a top 4 dman.
- ses111

Trotz benched him already. Should happen again but yeah I know where you’re going with this and yeah I agree. Toews should’ve been up a long time ago of accountability is a real thing “. Pelech, Hickey, Leddy have all been abortions on any given night some times all three simultaneously 😂
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Dec 11 @ 3:32 PM ET
I cant speak for barry but i did if that helps
- Upstate_isles


It doesn't help at all, but good for you!
floridaronnie
Joined: 12.05.2015

Dec 11 @ 3:41 PM ET
Trotz benched him already. Should happen again but yeah I know where you’re going with this and yeah I agree. Toews should’ve been up a long time ago of accountability is a real thing “. Pelech, Hickey, Leddy have all been abortions on any given night some times all three simultaneously 😂
- Cptmjl

I noticed someone mentioned my name. I just came back from the dead to say yes I am still here, and yes the isles still suck. As a matter of fact everything sucks but I got oranges
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 11 @ 3:44 PM ET
https://twitter.com/NYIsl...tatus/1072336342476967937 Love that he specifically brought up the drop passes in the o-zone. This team LOVES to do the no look drop passes the past few years and it's beyond absurd.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 11 @ 3:44 PM ET
https://twitter.com/NYIsl...tatus/1072336342476967937 Love that he specifically brought up the drop passes in the o-zone. This team LOVES to do the no look drop passes the past few years and it's beyond absurd.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 11 @ 3:46 PM ET
I noticed someone mentioned my name. I just came back from the dead to say yes I am still here, and yes the isles still suck. As a matter of fact everything sucks but I got oranges
- floridaronnie

😂😂😂😂

I think I was getting you confused with another poster. Or maybe not?
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 11 @ 3:52 PM ET
Trotz benched him already. Should happen again but yeah I know where you’re going with this and yeah I agree. Toews should’ve been up a long time ago of accountability is a real thing “. Pelech, Hickey, Leddy have all been abortions on any given night some times all three simultaneously 😂
- Cptmjl


It's been a better year record wise so far but it's still been a strange year overall in terms of decisions from Lou and Barry. We've seen a lot of these players for a while now and even with a proven winner like Barry, it's hard not to want more change and to see some guys from Bridge even if they have question marks as well.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 11 @ 3:52 PM ET
I noticed someone mentioned my name. I just came back from the dead to say yes I am still here, and yes the isles still suck. As a matter of fact everything sucks but I got oranges
- floridaronnie

But did you ever threaten chiefs?
floridaronnie
Joined: 12.05.2015

Dec 11 @ 3:53 PM ET
😂😂😂😂

I think I was getting you confused with another poster. Or maybe not?

- Cptmjl

another poster
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 11 @ 4:12 PM ET
I noticed someone mentioned my name. I just came back from the dead to say yes I am still here, and yes the isles still suck. As a matter of fact everything sucks but I got oranges
- floridaronnie


Joined: 12.31.1969

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