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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 19 @ 1:03 PM ET

- mdw7413

ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 19 @ 1:13 PM ET
'No' to Petry and a gigantic '(frank) no' to Alzner. Doubt they move Reilly, Juulsen, or Mete.
- eichiefs9


Rather look at the Bridge dmen first. Wonder if Eberle can bring back a dman or will teams just look to move draft picks for him?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 1:19 PM ET
Rather look at the Bridge dmen first. Wonder if Eberle can bring back a dman or will teams just look to move draft picks for him?
- ses111

Unless the Isles are either A) acquiring a top-4 defenseman or B) have traded Leddy, I see no need to make a trade on the blueline.

Toews should already be here and hopefully a defensive abortion like yesterday's will finally be enough to push Lou/Trotz over the edge to call up Toews and shake things up. He's playing one point shy of a PPG-pace through 18 games this year and I really don't think he's got anything left to prove in the AHL. I think he'd benefit more from 3rd pairing minutes here than he would with top-pairing minutes in BPT.

I don't think Eberle is going anywhere as long as this team is sitting in a playoff spot. We'd have to see where we are in the standings come deadline time, but if we're outside the playoffs and selling assets then I would imagine Eberle would be worth something like a late 1st round pick and maybe a B-level prospect. Not gonna get any roster pieces for him from a contender.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
Unless the Isles are either A) acquiring a top-4 defenseman or B) have traded Leddy, I see no need to make a trade on the blueline.

Toews should already be here and hopefully a defensive abortion like yesterday's will finally be enough to push Lou/Trotz over the edge to call up Toews and shake things up. He's playing one point shy of a PPG-pace through 18 games this year and I really don't think he's got anything left to prove in the AHL. I think he'd benefit more from 3rd pairing minutes here than he would with top-pairing minutes in BPT.

I don't think Eberle is going anywhere as long as this team is sitting in a playoff spot. We'd have to see where we are in the standings come deadline time, but if we're outside the playoffs and selling assets then I would imagine Eberle would be worth something like a late 1st round pick and maybe a B-level prospect. Not gonna get any roster pieces for him from a contender.

- eichiefs9


Thanks chief! I figured it would be for draft picks for Eberle. Toews really need to be up now. I agree the Isles are probably not close to trading Eberle or Leddy. I wonder how close Aho and Wotherspoon might be?
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 19 @ 1:35 PM ET
Unless the Isles are either A) acquiring a top-4 defenseman or B) have traded Leddy, I see no need to make a trade on the blueline.

Toews should already be here and hopefully a defensive abortion like yesterday's will finally be enough to push Lou/Trotz over the edge to call up Toews and shake things up. He's playing one point shy of a PPG-pace through 18 games this year and I really don't think he's got anything left to prove in the AHL. I think he'd benefit more from 3rd pairing minutes here than he would with top-pairing minutes in BPT.

I don't think Eberle is going anywhere as long as this team is sitting in a playoff spot. We'd have to see where we are in the standings come deadline time, but if we're outside the playoffs and selling assets then I would imagine Eberle would be worth something like a late 1st round pick and maybe a B-level prospect. Not gonna get any roster pieces for him from a contender.

- eichiefs9

Guess you missed where lou went to the bridgeport game the other day and said points are one thing but positioning and play away are another
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 19 @ 1:36 PM ET
Thanks chief! I figured it would be for draft picks for Eberle. Toews really need to be up now. I agree the Isles are probably not close to trading Eberle or Leddy. I wonder how close Aho and Wotherspoon might be?
- ses111

You’re actually thanking him for that pile of crap?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 1:39 PM ET
Thanks chief! I figured it would be for draft picks for Eberle. Toews really need to be up now. I agree the Isles are probably not close to trading Eberle or Leddy. I wonder how close Aho and Wotherspoon might be?
- ses111

Just my own opinion but, after last year, I thought Aho looked capable of playing bottom-pair minutes with the big club. There's definitely a log-jam on defense so I'm not upset he's in the AHL. I don't know enough about Wotherspoon, but I assume he still needs work. His offensive numbers are good so far but I haven't the slightest idea about where he's at, as a whole.

Something has to give with guys like Aho, Vande Sompel, and Wotherspoon in the next year or so. Obviously they're evaluating guys on the roster like Mayfield and Pelech, but I would bet that those three defenseman in the AHL are the Islanders' best non-roster trade chips right now. None are high-end prospects, but as of now I think all three have solid value.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 1:41 PM ET
Guess you missed where lou went to the bridgeport game the other day and said points are one thing but positioning and play away are another
- Upstate_isles

Yeah I didn't see that and I'm not surprised. Wotherspoon was unspectacular last year, so I assume he's got the longest to go of the bunch. Obviously they all need work, otherwise they'd have made the club out of camp...but I can't imagine Toews is significantly worse off in his own end than any of the Isles currently on the roster.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 1:41 PM ET
You’re actually thanking him for that pile of crap?
- Cptmjl

Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 19 @ 1:46 PM ET
Yeah I didn't see that and I'm not surprised. Wotherspoon was unspectacular last year, so I assume he's got the longest to go of the bunch. Obviously they all need work, otherwise they'd have made the club out of camp...but I can't imagine Toews is significantly worse off in his own end than any of the Isles currently on the roster.
- eichiefs9

He probably isnt worse but as long as theres a logjam and someone needs waivers i think he will continue to work on play away from the puck in the ahl. Have to think at somepoint he cant be denied anymore as he was an all star and is putting up the points again. I think if we are going to see a trade it will be somewhere around games 30 to 35 and could send a d out and make room for toews.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 19 @ 1:46 PM ET
You’re actually thanking him for that pile of crap?
- Cptmjl


Great post
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 1:53 PM ET
He probably isnt worse but as long as theres a logjam and someone needs waivers i think he will continue to work on play away from the puck in the ahl. Have to think at somepoint he cant be denied anymore as he was an all star and is putting up the points again. I think if we are going to see a trade it will be somewhere around games 30 to 35 and could send a d out and make room for toews.
- Upstate_isles

At some point they have to legitimately consider his development. Not saying we're at that point or that I'm having a fit over it, but as time goes on they have to ask themselves if Toews has anything else to "learn" in the AHL. He doesn't have to be a perfect defenseman before he gets called up, he can still learn at the NHL level.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see them ship out a defenseman to accommodate Toews on the roster, I just don't know what the market is for any of the "lesser" guys. Personally speaking, I'd be fine dumping Mayfield or Pelech for very little return to clear a spot or two. I'd be more than fine with dumping Sbisa for a slice of pizza and a rusty nail. Leddy is a bit more complicated.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 19 @ 1:59 PM ET
He probably isnt worse but as long as theres a logjam and someone needs waivers i think he will continue to work on play away from the puck in the ahl. Have to think at somepoint he cant be denied anymore as he was an all star and is putting up the points again. I think if we are going to see a trade it will be somewhere around games 30 to 35 and could send a d out and make room for toews.
- Upstate_isles

All the more reason to have him up here learning the nhl game rather than throwing him in green.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 19 @ 2:02 PM ET
At some point they have to legitimately consider his development. Not saying we're at that point or that I'm having a fit over it, but as time goes on they have to ask themselves if Toews has anything else to "learn" in the AHL. He doesn't have to be a perfect defenseman before he gets called up, he can still learn at the NHL level.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see them ship out a defenseman to accommodate Toews on the roster, I just don't know what the market is for any of the "lesser" guys. Personally speaking, I'd be fine dumping Mayfield or Pelech for very little return to clear a spot or two. I'd be more than fine with dumping Sbisa for a slice of pizza and a rusty nail. Leddy is a bit more complicated.

- eichiefs9

Bingo.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 2:02 PM ET
All the more reason to have him up here learning the nhl game rather than throwing him in green.
- Cptmjl

Great post
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 2:04 PM ET
Bingo.
- Cptmjl

Hell, I'd rather him be here learning from Barry Trotz over Brent Thompson.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
Great post
- eichiefs9

Ty
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
Hell, I'd rather him be here learning from Barry Trotz over Brent Thompson.
- eichiefs9

Well yeah that also of course😂
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 2:10 PM ET
Well yeah that also of course😂
- Cptmjl

In Thompson's defense, BPT is on an 8-game point streak and playing really well right now. Nice to finally see that. They have a stacked blueline.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 19 @ 2:13 PM ET
All the more reason to have him up here learning the nhl game rather than throwing him in green.
- Cptmjl

Well where does he fit with sbisa here? No spots available need to dump.a crap contract. Terrible post
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 19 @ 2:14 PM ET
Well where does he fit with sbisa here? No spots available need to dump.a crap contract. Terrible post
- Upstate_isles

😂

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 19 @ 2:14 PM ET
In Thompson's defense, BPT is on an 8-game point streak and playing really well right now. Nice to finally see that. They have a stacked blueline.
- eichiefs9

Excuse me for not having faith in that ape.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Nov 19 @ 2:15 PM ET
Hell, I'd rather him be here learning from Barry Trotz over Brent Thompson.
- eichiefs9


Can I hear an Amen
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 19 @ 2:15 PM ET
You’re actually thanking him for that pile of crap?
- Cptmjl




Tough crowd. Chief is one of the few who respond to my posts.

Joined: 12.31.1969

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