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ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 10 @ 11:50 AM ET
Dobson may ultimately need another year in Jr. after this year. Not because he really "needs" another year of Jr hockey, but he may simply just not be able to get a spot on the NHL roster and won't be AHL-eligible. Wilde is probably 3-4 years away from the NHL. But yeah, those guys are all going to get blocked by the idiots that many people said "are cheap and hey, maybe they turn out to be good value".
- eichiefs9


If it turns out the Isles need to drop Mayfield and Pelech so be it. You cannot keep Toews in Bridge until he is 30. The big positive with Lou is he should be able to make these type of decisions.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Oct 10 @ 11:50 AM ET
This was the issue with signing guys like Pelech, Mayfield, and Hickey. You have Wotherspoon, Aha, MVS and now Dobson and Wilde. Hope Lou and Barry can figure it out.
- ses111

What's the matter with Toews? Not good enough for your list?
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 10 @ 11:52 AM ET
What's the matter with Toews? Not good enough for your list?
- JohnScammo




I figure he may get the call if I do not mention him.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 11:54 AM ET
If it turns out the Isles need to drop Mayfield and Pelech so be it. You cannot keep Toews in Bridge until he is 30. The big positive with Lou is he should be able to make these type of decisions.
- ses111

The good news is that the Islanders only have two NMC's on the roster and, in reality, it's really only one NMC (Boychuk's). Filppula has one but he's on a one year deal.

The bad news is that there are probably zero teams that want to take on someone like Mayfield or Johnston, even if they're free. Takes two to tango and you can literally find equal-or-better value on the waiver wire and not have to commit to them long-term. I wouldn't give up a 7th round pick for 4 guaranteed years of Scott Mayfield at $1M+.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 10 @ 11:55 AM ET
The good news is that the Islanders only have two NMC's on the roster and, in reality, it's really only one NMC (Boychuk's). Filppula has one but he's on a one year deal.

The bad news is that there are probably zero teams that want to take on someone like Mayfield or Johnston, even if they're free. Takes two to tango and you can literally find equal-or-better value on the waiver wire and not have to commit to them long-term. I wouldn't give up a 7th round pick for 4 guaranteed years of Scott Mayfield at $1M+.

- eichiefs9


I hated giving Pelech and Mayfield 4 years. Give them two and no more. Same with Leo, Johnston, and Hickey. No more than two years.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 11:58 AM ET
I hated giving Pelech and Mayfield 4 years. Give them two and no more. Same with Leo, Johnston, and Hickey. No more than two years.
- ses111

Hickey I can understand. I didn't like it, but he's a functional bottom pairing guy. Someone has to occupy that role and they aren't likely to be fan favorites. Plus you can probably move him out with 2 years left on that deal and definitely when he has one year left.

Komarov and Johnston were terrible. Pelech has some value, but I don't personally think it's a lot. Mayfield blows.

Snow butt-f'ed this team for a long time with those deals + the Clutterbuck/Cizikas deals.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 10 @ 12:04 PM ET
Hickey I can understand. I didn't like it, but he's a functional bottom pairing guy. Someone has to occupy that role and they aren't likely to be fan favorites. Plus you can probably move him out with 2 years left on that deal and definitely when he has one year left.

Komarov and Johnston were terrible. Pelech has some value, but I don't personally think it's a lot. Mayfield blows.

Snow butt-f'ed this team for a long time with those deals + the Clutterbuck/Cizikas deals.

- eichiefs9


Good thing is Barry might be able to up the value on some of these players. Team is off to a good start. I still love the idea of Toews playing now and adding youth to the lineup. Would not have minded a 3rd line of Filppula with Bellows and Ho Sang. The Boychuk and Ladd deals really hurt. Casey I do not mind as much. Cal is a bad deal as well.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
Good thing is Barry might be able to up the value on some of these players. Team is off to a good start. I still love the idea of Toews playing now and adding youth to the lineup. Would not have minded a 3rd line of Filppula with Bellows and Ho Sang.
- ses111

If they're even close to out of the playoff picture by the deadline, they need to have a firesale. Eberle/Nelson would have to be on the block, you could get real solid returns for those guys...especially Ebs.

Not everyone will agree with me, but if Lee posts a weak season without having Tavares...I'd move him too. He'll be 29 when his next deal starts and if he's not the same player he was with Tavares, it'd be stupid to sign him long-term. He'd fetch a fortune at the deadline. 1st + very high-end prospect. That said, if he has a solid season...I wouldn't move him.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 10 @ 12:09 PM ET
If they're even close to out of the playoff picture by the deadline, they need to have a firesale. Eberle/Nelson would have to be on the block, you could get real solid returns for those guys...especially Ebs.

Not everyone will agree with me, but if Lee posts a weak season without having Tavares...I'd move him too. He'll be 29 when his next deal starts and if he's not the same player he was with Tavares, it'd be stupid to sign him long-term. He'd fetch a fortune at the deadline. 1st + very high-end prospect. That said, if he has a solid season...I wouldn't move him.

- eichiefs9


Going to be a very interesting trade deadline for sure. Doubt it will be a do nothing deadline like Garth's. I think Lee is an Isles for the long term and especially since he is Captain. I think Ebs is traded and Nelson as well.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 12:09 PM ET
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Jan Kovar: Has been placed on unconditional waivers for the purpose of contract termination. https://leftwinglock.com/news #nhl #Isles


nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 10 @ 12:11 PM ET
I see today is Phucking Cap Hell day here on the Isles thread.

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 12:11 PM ET
Going to be a very interesting trade deadline for sure. Doubt it will be a do nothing deadline like Garth's. I think Lee is an Isles for the long term and especially since he is Captain. I think Ebs is traded and Nelson as well.
- ses111

I agree they probably don't move Lee. But if he turns out to not be much of a player without 91, then I don't see the logic in paying him big $$$, long-term, for a few outstanding years two seasons ago.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 12:12 PM ET
I see today is Phucking Cap Hell day here on the Isles thread.


- nyisles7

They don't play until Saturday, you have something better to talk about?
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 10 @ 12:12 PM ET
Left Wing Lock
‏@Left_Wing_Lock
1m1 minute ago

Jan Kovar: Has been placed on unconditional waivers for the purpose of contract termination. https://leftwinglock.com/news #nhl #Isles



- eichiefs9





I'm not a fan of Ferrell but that movie was funny.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 10 @ 12:25 PM ET
They don't play until Saturday, you have something better to talk about?
- eichiefs9


No but The islanders being in Cap trouble is the farthest thing from my mind

Fact is if Trotz thought any of his prospects were better or could do a better job than any of the Guys on The Islanders they would be playing. The (frank)ing contract means nothing. Fielding the best team does imho. A non issue all around. Rubbish really

Thats my contribution to this discussion. Carry on.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Oct 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
They don't play until Saturday, you have something better to talk about?
- eichiefs9

Alternative topic




Discuss
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 10 @ 12:28 PM ET
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- JohnScammo

Anyone needs any help please let me know. My rates are on the previous page. Thank you.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 12:37 PM ET
No but The islanders being in Cap trouble is the farthest thing from my mind

Fact is if Trotz thought any of his prospects were better or could do a better job than any of the Guys on The Islanders they would be playing. The (frank)ing contract means nothing. Fielding the best team does imho. A non issue all around. Rubbish really

Thats my contribution to this discussion. Carry on.

- nyisles7

I'm really not trying to get on your case or drag this out for another 5 pages, but none of that is relevant to what we were discussing.

I'm not saying any of those guys should be on the roster right now. Just that in the future, it's going to be really, really tough for our good defensive prospects to find an NHL roster spot with the Islanders because of the way the cap was/is managed. That's all. Because everyone will be screaming and yelling about it if/when it happens.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 12:38 PM ET
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- JohnScammo

I've been vehemently trying that for probably the last 15 years and still no luck. I don't think it works.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 10 @ 12:41 PM ET
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- JohnScammo


My tennis elbow and carpal tunnel beg to differ
Vukota
New York Islanders
Location: Groupthink Run Amok, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 10 @ 12:43 PM ET
I'm really not trying to get on your case or drag this out for another 5 pages, but none of that is relevant to what we were discussing.

I'm not saying any of those guys should be on the roster right now. Just that in the future, it's going to be really, really tough for our good defensive prospects to find an NHL roster spot with the Islanders because of the way the cap was/is managed. That's all. Because everyone will be screaming and yelling about it if/when it happens.

- eichiefs9


So much will change with this roster before that happens that nobody has any idea how it will effect the lineup or how much cap space they have left by the time this scenario comes around. For all we know half these guys might not even be here
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 10 @ 12:44 PM ET
Anyone needs any help please let me know. My rates are on the previous page. Thank you.
- Cptmjl


Glad to see you Guys are discussing something you know a great deal about

Upstate_isles
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Oct 10 @ 12:49 PM ET
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ses111
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Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 10 @ 12:51 PM ET
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