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ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:58 AM ET
I still have a hard time believing it happens. The fact that the AAV is calculated by using the lesser of 5 years or the term offered really torpedoes the chance of it happening.
- eichiefs9


Nelson contract will be real tough as he does not seem to be a true 2C. Isles lack of depth at C really hurts.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 1 @ 11:59 AM ET
They probably get all bumhole amateurs throwing up all over themselves like I did
- Upstate_isles

All captains do everywhere. All part of the fun.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 1 @ 12:02 PM ET
All captains do everywhere. All part of the fun.
- Cptmjl

There's only one real captain in the world

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 1 @ 12:03 PM ET
Nelson contract will be real tough as he does not seem to be a true 2C. Isles lack of depth at C really hurts.
- ses111

He's OK, it's not like he's a bad second line center. A more skilled player would be nice, but he's fine for the job. But if he's asking for some asinine sum of money then they have to let him walk.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 1 @ 12:10 PM ET
He's OK, it's not like he's a bad second line center. A more skilled player would be nice, but he's fine for the job. But if he's asking for some asinine sum of money then they have to let him walk.
- eichiefs9


I agree. It all depends on what he wants. I think if the Isles had a real sniper with Barzal, Nelson as 2C is not as bad.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Feb 1 @ 12:15 PM ET
Huh? I mentioned the exact numbers you did originally

Nelson is not a $6M+ player, I don't care what position he plays. If that's what his ask is then see ya later, Brock. I'm comfortable up to about $5.25 and I could live with $5.5. But anything north of that is dumb, unless it's on a 1-2 year deal, which is almost certainly not going to happen.

- eichiefs9

Hey, at least I'm consistent in my inconsistency. Yeah, I threw out Bailey's numbers, suggesting that I think Nelson should get at least that much. But then you threw out Soderberg's salary, and that made me think he's worth a little more.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 1 @ 12:22 PM ET

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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 1 @ 12:24 PM ET
Hey, at least I'm consistent in my inconsistency. Yeah, I threw out Bailey's numbers, suggesting that I think Nelson should get at least that much. But then you threw out Soderberg's salary, and that made me think he's worth a little more.
- JohnScammo



Fair enough, I think at some point the fact that he plays a position of need has to stop holding water. I totally agree that he'll get a little more than he would if he were a dedicated winger, but he's really not a $6M+ player at all. $5M+ is fair for Nelson and the team.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 1 @ 12:25 PM ET
Renaud Lavoie


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Brassard and Sheahan to Panthers for Bjustad and McCann @FlaPanthers @penguins
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
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Joined: 10.14.2014

Feb 1 @ 12:25 PM ET


Fair enough, I think at some point the fact that he plays a position of need has to stop holding water. I totally agree that he'll get a little more than he would if he were a dedicated winger, but he's really not a $6M+ player at all. $5M+ is fair for Nelson and the team.

- eichiefs9

And I hope Nelly and his agent agree with you!
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 1 @ 12:27 PM ET
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- niteislander

I actually got a last minute invite, so it'll be nice to see them play the Bolts twice in a few weeks.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
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Feb 1 @ 12:28 PM ET
Renaud Lavoie


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- Vukota

Isn't Bjustad a lot better than Brassard?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 1 @ 12:28 PM ET
Renaud Lavoie


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Jason Mackey
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Per source, Penguins are getting Nick Bjugstad and Jared McCann from Florida. Giving up Derick Brassard, Riley Sheahan, a second and two fourth-round picks.


Looks like a few picks too.

Interesting trade.
Wildschwein
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 1 @ 12:30 PM ET
Isn't Bjustad a lot better than Brassard?
- JohnScammo


No. He’s just bigger and signed to term. Brassard is the better of the two.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 1 @ 12:30 PM ET
Isn't Bjustad a lot better than Brassard?
- JohnScammo

Meh, not really. Younger and he'll probably play well with the Penguins...but not so far in his career. Last year was a career-high 19-30-49pts in 82gp for him but this year he's playing at a .375ppg pace which puts him on pace for 31pts over 82gp.
Wildschwein
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 1 @ 12:31 PM ET
Jason Mackey
@JMackeyPG
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Per source, Penguins are getting Nick Bjugstad and Jared McCann from Florida. Giving up Derick Brassard, Riley Sheahan, a second and two fourth-round picks.


Looks like a few picks too.

Interesting trade.

- eichiefs9


My initial impression is that the Panthers just (frank)ed Rutherford HARD.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 1 @ 12:32 PM ET
My initial impression is that the Panthers just (frank)ed Rutherford HARD.
- Wildschwein

McCann is only 22 and was a first round pick. Not sure why he in this trade.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
35s
FLA is getting PIT’s 2nd and 4th rounders, plus MIN’s 4th (previously acquired by the Penguins) as part of this deal. Lots of picks for the Panthers.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 1 @ 12:36 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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FLA is getting PIT’s 2nd and 4th rounders, plus MIN’s 4th (previously acquired by the Penguins) as part of this deal. Lots of picks for the Panthers.

- eichiefs9


I don't get this trade at all...
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 1 @ 12:38 PM ET
I don't get this trade at all...
- niteislander

It's a cap-dump for the Panthers. Bjugstad has two more seasons left at a $4.1M AAV and McCann one more season at $1.25M. Brassard is on an expiring deal. Panthers save cap space/money and the Pens get good depth at a reasonable price.

McCann isn't very good, don't get hung up on the fact he was a (late) first round pick.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 1 @ 12:41 PM ET
It's a cap-dump for the Panthers. Bjugstad has two more seasons left at a $4.1M AAV and McCann one more season at $1.25M. Brassard is on an expiring deal. Panthers save cap space/money and the Pens get good depth at a reasonable price.

McCann isn't very good, don't get hung up on the fact he was a (late) first round pick.

- eichiefs9

Money works out to about even this year... 5 mill ish. that's a lot of picks the Pens gave up to essentially get Bjusted who is signed for one more year at 4.1 mill. As you said he is not Better than Brassard but is bigger. Just seems odd.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 1 @ 12:44 PM ET
Money works out to about even this year... 5 mill ish. that's a lot of picks the Pens gave up to essentially get Bjusted who is signed for one more year at 4.1 mill. As you said he is not Better than Brassard but is bigger. Just seems odd.
- niteislander

Bjugstad has two more years on his deal. McCann has one.

The difference between present-day Brassard and Bjugstad is negligible and Bjugstad is younger and doesn't make a lot. McCann is bottom-6 depth. The 2nd rd pick will likely be pretty late and the 4th rounders aren't anything to fawn over. It was a pretty good deal for both sides.

edit: Don't be surprised if FLA flips Brassard and/or Sheahan elsewhere for more assets. They did well in this deal.

2nd edit: also:

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
As we talked about yesterday, Florida hopes to take a run at Panarin and Bobrovsky so after today’s trade they have more flexibility to do it. And while they could wait until July 1 to go after them, they could also inquire before Feb 25 if something makes sense... so stay tuned
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 1 @ 12:47 PM ET
I'm in a Italian place in Daytona and the guy that works here had isles season tickets and the guy in the booth was at the cup game when nystrom scored. What are the odds. What if it's one of you guys here
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 1 @ 12:52 PM ET
Renaud Lavoie


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- Vukota


Wow who would have guessed the Pens wanted to trade Barssard
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 1 @ 12:53 PM ET
I'm in a Italian place in Daytona and the guy that works here had isles season tickets and the guy in the booth was at the cup game when nystrom scored. What are the odds. What if it's one of you guys here
- Upstate_isles


It’s not me because I’m waiting for you, Cpt and JS to leave.
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