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Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 29 @ 2:26 PM ET
Problem is that Barzal is going to be due a mega-deal after next season. Everything they do is going to have to have an eye on the future for that contract.

Pulock will be due another contract that offseason as well.

Also, if Sorokin comes here next year he'll be on a one year ELC and will be looking for a big raise in the same summer. He's not moving halfway across the world and leaving KHL-millions for nothing.

- Harambe

Good thing lou brought a capologost in
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
Would have been nice for JHS to show something than the Isles could really focus on 2C.
- ses111


Fack him. I don't think we'll see him in an Isles uniform again
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
Good thing lou brought a capologost in
- Upstate_isles

ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 29 @ 2:28 PM ET
Fack him. I don't think we'll see him in an Isles uniform again
- Vukota


JHS seems done with the Isles. Could have been a big help with the Cap though if JHS worked out.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 29 @ 2:31 PM ET
I'm just saying it might. I don't want it to, but $11M AAV is gonna mean they have to squeeze someone somewhere. It'll depend on how much, if at all, the cap goes up too. Eberle is definitely a goner and his $6M will go a long way for sure. But if they don't sign a better 2C, they'll have to keep Nelson around too. Otherwise they have jack shit for that center spot.

This is exactly why I hate the (frank)ing Komarov contract. That $3M might not seem like much, but it adds up quickly.

- Harambe


Fans of this team always worry too much about contracts. We have NEVER had an issue with Cap space. This year they have Eberle coming off the books and his 6 mill, Sbisa and his 1.5 mill, Kuhnackl/Fritz/Val is another 4mill, and we have over 7 mill in space right now. , .. Next year you lose Greiss 3.2 mill, MM and his 2.2 and the cap is expected to go up again to 81 mill. .. they can buy out Ladd or trade Bailey if needed. They will be fine.
Wildschwein
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 29 @ 2:31 PM ET
Exactly. I think the Isles success, coupled with Barry and Lou running the show is going to make them infinitely more attractive to free agents. I think Panarin and Duchene is a bit of a pipedream, but adding Panarin would be absolutely massive. Would probably make for some really tough decisions though. They'd probably have to keep Nelson and that might mean saying goodbye to Lee, unless he takes a big discount.
- Harambe


Oh bullshit.

Lee will sign max term around 6/6.75 per. That number is both a substantial raise for him, and comparable to several wingers who recently received new deals while putting up similar offensive numbers.

Guentzel - 6 per 22-26-48
Nylander - 6.9 per 22-39-61
Gourde - 5.16 per 25-39-64
Teravainen - 5.4 per 23-41-64
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 29 @ 2:34 PM ET
Oh bullshit.

Lee will sign max term around 6/6.75 per. That number is both a substantial raise, and comparable to several wingers who recently received new deals while putting up similar offensive numbers.

Guentzel - 6 per
Nylander - 6.9 per
Gourde - 5.16 per
Teravainen - 5.4 per

- Wildschwein




I thought you would have an issue with Lee leaving.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
Good thing lou brought a capologost in
- Upstate_isles

Pellegrini is da man
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 29 @ 2:39 PM ET
Fans of this team always worry too much about contracts. We have NEVER had an issue with Cap space. This year they have Eberle coming off the books and his 6 mill, Sbisa and his 1.5 mill, Kuhnackl/Fritz/Val is another 4mill, and we have over 7 mill in space right now. , .. Next year you lose Greiss 3.2 mill, MM and his 2.2 and the cap is expected to go up again to 81 mill. .. they can buy out Ladd or trade Bailey if needed. They will be fine.
- niteislander


Certain Silver Backs are over the top with the Cap concerns
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

Jan 29 @ 2:53 PM ET
Certain Silver Backs are over the top with the Cap concerns
- nyisles7

Thank you for thinking of me as the dominant alpha male of our pack.

Now....where's your wife?
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

Jan 29 @ 2:56 PM ET
Oh bullshit.

Lee will sign max term around 6/6.75 per. That number is both a substantial raise for him, and comparable to several wingers who recently received new deals while putting up similar offensive numbers.

Guentzel - 6 per 22-26-48
Nylander - 6.9 per 22-39-61
Gourde - 5.16 per 25-39-64
Teravainen - 5.4 per 23-41-64

- Wildschwein

That's fair and certainly a possibility. Lee not having another huge season this year probably won't hurt the Islanders cap, too.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 29 @ 2:58 PM ET
Thank you for thinking of me as the dominant alpha male of our pack.

Now....where's your wife?

- Harambe


At home cooking and cleaning as She should be. And yours?
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 29 @ 2:59 PM ET
Thank you for thinking of me as the dominant alpha male of our pack.

Now....where's your wife?

- Harambe

I thought it was silver from the bullets they shot you with
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

Jan 29 @ 3:00 PM ET
Fans of this team always worry too much about contracts. We have NEVER had an issue with Cap space. This year they have Eberle coming off the books and his 6 mill, Sbisa and his 1.5 mill, Kuhnackl/Fritz/Val is another 4mill, and we have over 7 mill in space right now. , .. Next year you lose Greiss 3.2 mill, MM and his 2.2 and the cap is expected to go up again to 81 mill. .. they can buy out Ladd or trade Bailey if needed. They will be fine.
- niteislander

Who's worrying? Those are facts and those are contracts that will need to be dealt with. I didn't say the sky was falling, just that those are things that need to be taken into consideration.

By your calculations, that's $23M coming off the books + current cap space by summer of 2020 plus another $2.5M in (very estimated) cap ceiling space. So $25.5M available. Now give Panarin $11M and Barzal $12M. Then you still have to sign Pulock and, potentially, Sorokin.

They absolutely cannot buyout Ladd. Aside from the fact that they'd be paying him until 2027, they would save barely over $500k on the cap for the first 4 years of the buyout, until 2023. https://www.capfriendly.c...or/andrew-ladd/2019-06-15
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

Jan 29 @ 3:00 PM ET
At home cooking and cleaning as She should be. And yours?
- nyisles7

She left me
Wildschwein
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 29 @ 3:06 PM ET
Thank you for thinking of me as the dominant alpha male of our pack.

Now....where's your wife?

- Harambe


Did you know that gorillas have some of the smallest junk in all the primate world?

https://www.outsideonline...-have-such-small-genitals
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

Jan 29 @ 3:07 PM ET
Did you know that gorillas have some of the smallest junk in all the primate world?

https://www.outsideonline...-have-such-small-genitals

- Wildschwein

No shit, I have a mirror
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 29 @ 3:09 PM ET
Who's worrying? Those are facts and those are contracts that will need to be dealt with. I didn't say the sky was falling, just that those are things that need to be taken into consideration.

By your calculations, that's $23M coming off the books + current cap space by summer of 2020 plus another $2.5M in (very estimated) cap ceiling space. So $25.5M available. Now give Panarin $11M and Barzal $12M. Then you still have to sign Pulock and, potentially, Sorokin.

They absolutely cannot buyout Ladd. Aside from the fact that they'd be paying him until 2027, they would save barely over $500k on the cap for the first 4 years of the buyout, until 2023. https://www.capfriendly.c...or/andrew-ladd/2019-06-15

- Harambe



Barzal is not getting 12 mil a year in his next deal.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 29 @ 3:10 PM ET
Who's worrying? Those are facts and those are contracts that will need to be dealt with. I didn't say the sky was falling, just that those are things that need to be taken into consideration.

By your calculations, that's $23M coming off the books + current cap space by summer of 2020 plus another $2.5M in (very estimated) cap ceiling space. So $25.5M available. Now give Panarin $11M and Barzal $12M. Then you still have to sign Pulock and, potentially, Sorokin.

They absolutely cannot buyout Ladd. Aside from the fact that they'd be paying him until 2027, they would save barely over $500k on the cap for the first 4 years of the buyout, until 2023. https://www.capfriendly.c...or/andrew-ladd/2019-06-15

- Harambe



Besides you for the last 12 months nobody
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

Jan 29 @ 3:13 PM ET
Besides you for the last 12 months nobody
- Vukota

Talking about it and worrying about it are two entirely different things. I'm not losing sleep over it, I'm sure they're not going to end up being a total (frank)ing mess now that turdbucket Garth isn't asleep at the wheel anymore.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 29 @ 3:15 PM ET
Talking about it and worrying about it are two entirely different things. I'm not losing sleep over it, I'm sure they're not going to end up being a total (frank)ing mess now that turdbucket Garth isn't asleep at the wheel anymore.
- Harambe


nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 29 @ 3:17 PM ET
Besides you for the last 12 months nobody
- Vukota

Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

Jan 29 @ 3:20 PM ET
Barzal is not getting 12 mil a year in his next deal.
- Vukota

Why not? Unless he wants to take a shorter bridge deal, I would imagine they would pay him a pretty high figure.
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

Jan 29 @ 3:20 PM ET

- Vukota

Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 29 @ 3:22 PM ET
Why not? Unless he wants to take a shorter bridge deal, I would imagine they would pay him a pretty high figure.
- Harambe


I'm curious how many players went from their entry level deals to a mega deal like that? Not saying it hasn't happened but I can see like you said a shorter bridge deal before getting that huge deal especially if cap space is going to be an issue in the next couple of years
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