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Noel Fogelman
New York Islanders
Location: Trumbull, CT
Joined: 07.08.2015

Aug 26 @ 12:18 PM ET
Noel Fogelman: Isles Buzz Podcast Episode 7 - ESPN's Corey Pronman
OnIceEnforcer
Location: Hellsinki
Joined: 07.05.2013

Aug 26 @ 1:01 PM ET
Umm, Pokka listed as NYI?
btbossman
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 03.13.2013

Aug 26 @ 1:07 PM ET
Umm, Pokka listed as NYI?
- OnIceEnforcer


You might want to read more carefully

"We spoke to ESPN NHL Inside Corey Pronman regarding his Top 100 Prospects lost. There are plenty of Islanders on it and even a couple of former ones."
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 26 @ 1:08 PM ET
Giving KO a possible big money deal makes me nervous.
OnIceEnforcer
Location: Hellsinki
Joined: 07.05.2013

Aug 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
You might want to read more carefully

"We spoke to ESPN NHL Inside Corey Pronman regarding his Top 100 Prospects lost. There are plenty of Islanders on it and even a couple of former ones."

- btbossman

Yeah, okay, missed that one.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 26 @ 1:47 PM ET
Giving KO a possible big money deal makes me nervous.
- ses111


How I see it playing out.

Going to give huge money to KO thus making it almost impossible to re-sign JT. Nash will retire after winning three consecutive cups thus opening up cap space for the Rangers to sign JT.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 26 @ 2:07 PM ET
How I see it playing out.

Going to give huge money to KO thus making it almost impossible to re-sign JT. Nash will retire after winning three consecutive cups thus opening up cap space for the Rangers to sign JT.

- mdw7413



You are no Carnac my friend.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
You are no Carnac my friend.
- ses111



Well, I'm still convinced I'm going to win the BigGame lotto. So take my predictions for what they are.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 26 @ 3:22 PM ET
Yeah, okay, missed that one.
- OnIceEnforcer

Now we have to execute you.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 26 @ 3:23 PM ET
Giving KO a possible big money deal makes me nervous.
- ses111


If they can sign him for under 6 for 4-5 years it’ll be a good contract for us. If they go over on either of those….it could hurt later.

That said – I think he gets 6-6.5 for 6 years.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 26 @ 3:24 PM ET
Well, I'm still convinced I'm going to win the BigGame lotto. So take my predictions for what they are.
- mdw7413

The ramblings of an escapee-mental-patient off his meds?
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 26 @ 3:24 PM ET
Now we have to execute you.
- eichiefs9


FINISH HIM
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 26 @ 3:25 PM ET
If they can sign him for under 6 for 4-5 years it’ll be a good contract for us. If they go over on either of those….it could hurt later.

That said – I think he gets 6-6.5 for 6 years.

- Isles_since_6

If it were up to me, I wouldn't offer him a contract that leaves him with a greater-than $5M/yr cap hit.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 26 @ 3:29 PM ET
The ramblings of an escapee-mental-patient off his meds?
- eichiefs9



Pretty close.

I responded to your main thread post.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 26 @ 5:27 PM ET
If it were up to me, I wouldn't offer him a contract that leaves him with a greater-than $5M/yr cap hit.
- eichiefs9


it's a gamble - I don't know if I'd be comfortable moving him as we'd likely not get a top six forward in return, but if you don't move him and he walks...

and if you sign him and he looks like he did after returning last year.. lot of risk on this one.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 26 @ 9:12 PM ET
Pretty fair assessment. http://www.csnmidatlantic...ders?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 27 @ 8:46 AM ET
Pretty fair assessment. http://www.csnmidatlantic...ders?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
- ses111


when he throws montreal into the mix of teams "we can't compete with" I shook my head. That team isn't a good one, their goalie is the best in the league. I'm expecting montreal to regress this year.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Aug 27 @ 9:10 AM ET
when he throws montreal into the mix of teams "we can't compete with" I shook my head. That team isn't a good one, their goalie is the best in the league. I'm expecting montreal to regress this year.
- Isles_since_6

When ses described the assessment, I believe he was using the word "fair" in the sense of "mediocre". Kyle Okposo, the 2nd best player on the team????
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 27 @ 9:19 AM ET
When ses described the assessment, I believe he was using the word "fair" in the sense of "mediocre". Kyle Okposo, the 2nd best player on the team????
- JohnScammo


I did agree with the part of the Isles winning a round with the right matchup. Putting the coaching aside, I do think they may be a player or two away from being a real threat.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 27 @ 9:38 AM ET
I did agree with the part of the Isles winning a round with the right matchup. Putting the coaching aside, I do think they may be a player or two away from being a real threat.
- ses111

I think you may be right but I believe that player may be already on the team. Some of these kids are probably going to take big steps soon if not this year.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Aug 27 @ 9:41 AM ET
I did agree with the part of the Isles winning a round with the right matchup. Putting the coaching aside, I do think they may be a player or two away from being a real threat.
- ses111

Just bustin' your shoes.... It was an interesting read, thanks, even if I didn't agree with every aspect of it.

I also agree that they are missing a key ingredient. I think they need a blood & guts, whatever-it-takes type player. Sort of like a Ryan Callahan. Last Islander player who fit that bill was probably Mike Peca. Someone who will respond when you need a shot blocked or a big open ice hit or a key face off won or a hot opposing player neutralized defensively, etc., and with the ability to chip in some key goals, or set them up. These players are not all that common, but I think Ryan Strome could turn into that type of player.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 27 @ 9:47 AM ET
I think you may be right but I believe that player may be already on the team. Some of these kids are probably going to take big steps soon if not this year.
- Cptmjl


I agree on the kids like Lee, Strome, and Lee. The problem is with guys like Frans and Bailey and Hickey and how this coaching staff does not believe in limiting minutes for these players. To me this team is just not build for a big run yet.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 27 @ 9:51 AM ET
Just bustin' your shoes.... It was an interesting read, thanks, even if I didn't agree with every aspect of it.

I also agree that they are missing a key ingredient. I think they need a blood & guts, whatever-it-takes type player. Sort of like a Ryan Callahan. Last Islander player who fit that bill was probably Mike Peca. Someone who will respond when you need a shot blocked or a big open ice hit or a key face off won or a hot opposing player neutralized defensively, etc., and with the ability to chip in some key goals, or set them up. These players are not all that common, but I think Ryan Strome could turn into that type of player.

- JohnScammo


I gotcha John and I agree on the need for a Callahan or Peca type player. I thought a player like Fehr would have been a nice upgrade over Frans without breaking the budget. No idea why this type of move was not made and especially after another 1st round loss?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 27 @ 9:54 AM ET
I think you may be right but I believe that player may be already on the team. Some of these kids are probably going to take big steps soon if not this year.
- Cptmjl



Bailey?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 27 @ 9:55 AM ET
Bailey?
- mdw7413


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