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Bill Meltzer
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Aug 19 @ 7:58 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Hire Brady Robinson as Goalie Development Coach & Goalie Scout
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
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Aug 19 @ 8:08 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Hire Brady Robinson as Goalie Development Coach & Goalie Scout
- bmeltzer


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 19 @ 8:28 PM ET

- ob18

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 19 @ 8:30 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 19 @ 8:31 PM ET

- ob18

KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 19 @ 8:36 PM ET
Carryover from the lst blog.....

RE: ESPN poll

I stopped reading when I saw the Blackhawk jerseys weren't given a 10
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 19 @ 8:39 PM ET
I know I'm begging to be crapped on but after 14 momths of Ron Hextall becoming GM, what grade does he get? I'll be the first to say his drafting is great but I still view his signings as average and his trade as "Yet to be determinded". Del Zotto, Schultz, White and Bellemare isn't gonna start a bidding war. In terms of trades, we'll have to wait to see how Radko Gudas and Travis Konecny pan out. I'm just waiting on a trade that really is gonna take some balls to make. Much like the Richards, Carter and Pronger deals if they can put us over the top. The hires are also yet to be determined.

I give him a B+ because of the drafting in patience but I think he should have tried to add by mid season last season to keep us in the playoff hunt.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 19 @ 8:40 PM ET
Carryover from the lst blog.....

RE: ESPN poll

I stopped reading when I saw the Blackhawk jerseys weren't given a 10

- KINGKENZO


Which NHL jerseys were given a 10? I would go Blackhawks, Wings, Flyers, Habs
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 19 @ 8:41 PM ET
Chase
PhillySportsGuy
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Aug 19 @ 8:44 PM ET
I know I'm begging to be crapped on but after 14 momths of Ron Hextall becoming GM, what grade does he get? I'll be the first to say his drafting is great but I still view his signings as average and his trade as "Yet to be determinded". Del Zotto, Schultz, White and Bellemare isn't gonna start a bidding war. In terms of trades, we'll have to wait to see how Radko Gudas and Travis Konecny pan out. I'm just waiting on a trade that really is gonna take some balls to make, much like the Richards, Carter and Pronger deals if they can put us over the top. The hires are also yet to be determined.

I give him a B+ because of the drafting in patience but I think he should have tried to add by mid season last season to keep us in the playoff hunt.

- SuperSchennBros


Still don't think you can really grade him yet. He's had two offseason with no cap space and is basically rebuilding the entire defense through the draft.

I do like the direction of the team though. He's building a team meant to sustain success over a long period of time.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 8:48 PM ET
Chase
- Winning


His career is basically over, it sucks but they got something for him that can hopefully help.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 19 @ 8:49 PM ET
I know I'm begging to be crapped on but after 14 momths of Ron Hextall becoming GM, what grade does he get? I'll be the first to say his drafting is great but I still view his signings as average and his trade as "Yet to be determinded". Del Zotto, Schultz, White and Bellemare isn't gonna start a bidding war. In terms of trades, we'll have to wait to see how Radko Gudas and Travis Konecny pan out. I'm just waiting on a trade that really is gonna take some balls to make, much like the Richards, Carter and Pronger deals if they can put us over the top. The hires are also yet to be determined.

I give him a B+ because of the drafting in patience but I think he should have tried to add by mid season last season to keep us in the playoff hunt.

- SuperSchennBros


Hard to be critical of his signings, because he hasn't had the cap room to do much more than make minor signings to fill holes.

As far as trades go, the Hartnell deal was a bad hockey deal, but it was made as much for cap reasons as hockey reasons, if not more. Most of his other deals are deals for the future. He got good value for both Coburn and Timonen, and he managed to dump two years of having to carry Pronger on LTIR and get a viable top 9 forward back

I agree 100% with Hextall's approach last season. The Flyers did little more than flirt with the playoffs, there was zero reason to trade draft picks or prospects to push a bad team into a wild card spot to be cannon fodder for the Rangers in the first round.

If anything, he should have sold off more pieces before the deadline, to add more picks for June's draft or to clear more room to add free agents this summer. They simply were not a viable playoff team by the time January or February rolled around.
mmcclatchy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Asheville, NC
Joined: 06.13.2014

Aug 19 @ 8:49 PM ET
I know I'm begging to be crapped on but after 14 momths of Ron Hextall becoming GM, what grade does he get? I'll be the first to say his drafting is great but I still view his signings as average and his trade as "Yet to be determinded". Del Zotto, Schultz, White and Bellemare isn't gonna start a bidding war. In terms of trades, we'll have to wait to see how Radko Gudas and Travis Konecny pan out. I'm just waiting on a trade that really is gonna take some balls to make, much like the Richards, Carter and Pronger deals if they can put us over the top.

I give him a B+ because of the drafting in patience but I think he should have tried to add by mid season last season to keep us in the playoff hunt.

- SuperSchennBros


It seems like he's drafted well, but more than anything it's what he hasn't done that makes me hopeful. No aging vets for picks, no unreasonable contracts, biding his time while untradable contracts wind down. He's stated his plan and stuck with it. The long term is now something that is considered in decision making
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 19 @ 8:52 PM ET
It seems like he's drafted well, but more than anything it's what he hasn't done that makes me hopeful. No aging vets for picks, no unreasonable contracts, biding his time while untradable contracts wind down. He's stated his plan and stuck with it. The long term is now something that is considered in decision making
- mmcclatchy


Exactly. He hasn't dealt away kids or picks, he hasn;t made a bold move in FA because he wanted a big name. He's tried to move the big contracts that hamstrung him in the summer.

I think he's done well. Hard to give him a grade, because he's clearly got an eye to the future, but he came in with a plan, and has followed it.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 19 @ 8:58 PM ET
Exactly. He hasn't dealt away kids or picks, he hasn;t made a bold move in FA because he wanted a big name. He's tried to move the big contracts that hamstrung him in the summer.

I think he's done well. Hard to give him a grade, because he's clearly got an eye to the future, but he came in with a plan, and has followed it.

- Jsaquella


I don't think they'll be players in FA next season either. They may add a piece here or there, but nothing substantial
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 19 @ 9:13 PM ET
I don't think they'll be players in FA next season either. They may add a piece here or there, but nothing substantial
- PhillySportsGuy


Agreed. I'd be surprised if they made a bold FA move next summer
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 19 @ 9:19 PM ET
His career is basically over, it sucks but they got something for him that can hopefully help.
- ob18

is there any doubt that chase and jimmy will win a cup world series together in LA this year?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 19 @ 9:20 PM ET
is there any doubt that chase and jimmy will win a cup world series together in LA this year?
- Crimsoninja

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 9:22 PM ET
is there any doubt that chase and jimmy will win a cup world series together in LA this year?
- Crimsoninja


Chances get better
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.05.2007

Aug 19 @ 9:53 PM ET
Natress was '92...boy, it doesn't feel that long ago
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 19 @ 9:54 PM ET
know what is hard?

Finding flights for recruits from Idaho.
ob18
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Aug 19 @ 9:59 PM ET
know what is hard?

Finding flights for recruits from Idaho.

- nails


http://www.cheapflights.com/
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 19 @ 10:07 PM ET
I don't think they'll be players in FA next season either. They may add a piece here or there, but nothing substantial
- PhillySportsGuy

Everything Hexy is doing seems be signaling towards building a contender about 2-4 years down the road. I dont think we see any big signing either. They could certainly cash in some chips on aging players that they dont see fitting that window if the team struggles this year. Streit & Schultz being the two immediate names that come to mind.
SuperSchennBros
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Aug 19 @ 11:03 PM ET
Exactly. He hasn't dealt away kids or picks, he hasn;t made a bold move in FA because he wanted a big name. He's tried to move the big contracts that hamstrung him in the summer.

I think he's done well. Hard to give him a grade, because he's clearly got an eye to the future, but he came in with a plan, and has followed it.

- Jsaquella

You always remain competitive. You don't have to shell out assets But You can always look in all areas to improve.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 19 @ 11:09 PM ET
You always remain competitive. You don't have to shell out assets But You can always look in all areas to improve.
- SuperSchennBros


What trade would you like to have seen them make last January or February that wouldn't have cost them decent assets that would have improved them?

Any deal for an established vet would cost picks, prospects or other roster players. Hextall sees the team isn't at the point where they can trade picks to get minor improvements in the short term. He's trying to build a strong contender, not a team that hopes to make the playoffs and go on a hot streak.

In another season or two, I think we might start seeing bolder moves. Some of the kids will be ready to step in, the big contracts that are going to 4th liners and spare parts will be expired and off the books, and they'll be ready to take a big step forward. Trading a pick or prospect last season, just to miss the playoffs by 8 points instead of 14 isn't a smart move
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