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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 3 @ 8:14 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Who Should Phil Kessel Play With? Who Should Phil Kessel Play With?
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:17 AM ET
This is a no brainer...kessel is clearly playing with sid.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:18 AM ET
How are they going to fill out their roster this year? Especially next year with a very small increase again in the cap? This trade confuses me because the pens are no longer a threat in the east to come out of it because of the lack of depth. Shouldn't they be trying to retool and stock up the minors?
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:21 AM ET
Pens are no longer a threat in the east after acquiring the best sniper they had for a decade and gave up zero NHL roster spots?

Yeah they got worse. You're right.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 3 @ 8:21 AM ET
One of those four (Kunitz/Bennett/Dupuis/Plot) have to step up for that last top 6 spot. Focus now should be on somehow dumping Sutter and Scuderi.
nurk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: City of Champions, PA
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:21 AM ET
How am I supposed to read this....there is only one graph. Come on Ryan.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:23 AM ET
Id go

perron sid kessel
plotnikov geno horn
kuni sutter bennett
wilson sund ufa
rust

Dupes isnt cleared so I didnt use him, we dont know if he will ever be back or if he does how long

What I would want to see is them get tlusty and bergenheim and maybe trade kuni and sutter..

but I think about it more, sutter and kuni could fetch more at trade deadline
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 3 @ 8:23 AM ET
This is a no brainer...kessel is clearly playing with sid.
- taleisyreXIII



pffft. Bozak of course.


jk
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 3 @ 8:24 AM ET
One of those four (Kunitz/Bennett/Dupuis/Plot) have to step up for that last top 6 spot. Focus now should be on somehow dumping Sutter and Scuderi.
- jfkst1



Will he play?
What about the blood clot he has?
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 3 @ 8:25 AM ET
How are they going to fill out their roster this year? Especially next year with a very small increase again in the cap? This trade confuses me because the pens are no longer a threat in the east to come out of it because of the lack of depth. Shouldn't they be trying to retool and stock up the minors?
- jmdodgeser4


It'll make it more challenging to fill out the roster depth for sure. However, if they start valuing the right things (production versus reputation) I think they can still field a solid full roster.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:26 AM ET
Pens are no longer a threat in the east after acquiring the best sniper they had for a decade and gave up zero NHL roster spots?

Yeah they got worse. You're right.

- Steven_Dean


So they can load up one line and maybe the second with malkin. You cant win like that. Teams put their best d lines up against them. If they don't have to worry about the 3rd and 4th line the pens become way to easy to predict and play against.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:28 AM ET
and sorry for not being able to do this last blog but I was asleep in crew rest when this happend.. but WTF!!!!! Oshie to caps for a bottom 6 player, prospect and 3rd!!!

Pens couldnt get him for kuni or sutter straight up? we could have thrown in scuds.. okay not scuds but lovejoy or rust or wilson...

there goes my 3rd line scoring scenerio


you can now continue with todays topic
JSC
Florida Panthers
Location: The Banana Throwing Capital of Canada, London, ON
Joined: 02.29.2008

Jul 3 @ 8:29 AM ET
How about Bozak for Pouliot, your 2nd in 2016, and 1.25 mil retained per year for the next 6 years and we can forgive you for the Kessel trade.



No???
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 3 @ 8:29 AM ET
Will he play?
What about the blood clot he has?

- zazzle


He was cleared over a month ago.
nurk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: City of Champions, PA
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:29 AM ET
So they can load up one line and maybe the second with malkin. You cant win like that. Teams put their best d lines up against them. If they don't have to worry about the 3rd and 4th line the pens become way to easy to predict and play against.
- jmdodgeser4

I don't think we will see the top heavy penguins have any problems with their bottom 6 until/if a major player goes down. The penguins are going to score goals, its inevitable. But if Malkin, Crosby or Fluery go down hurt for a signifigantly long period of time, then they may be in some serious trouble.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 3 @ 8:33 AM ET
and sorry for not being able to do this last blog but I was asleep in crew rest when this happend.. but WTF!!!!! Oshie to caps for a bottom 6 player, prospect and 3rd!!!

Pens couldnt get him for kuni or sutter straight up? we could have thrown in scuds.. okay not scuds but lovejoy or rust or wilson...

there goes my 3rd line scoring scenerio


you can now continue with todays topic

- nh4442


I'm disappointed by that too. If they added Oshie, it would have been the best top 6 in the league. And unloading expiring assets like Sutter is critical. Getting him off the roster is a plus too.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:35 AM ET
I think those top 2 lines with Plotnikov on Geno's other wing will be how it starts.
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:36 AM ET
So they can load up one line and maybe the second with malkin. You cant win like that. Teams put their best d lines up against them. If they don't have to worry about the 3rd and 4th line the pens become way to easy to predict and play against.
- jmdodgeser4


Their forwards got deeper by adding an elite first line winger. Also good luck having teams focus on to elite first lines with their top pairing defence.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:37 AM ET
Semin from the right side is good... but semin from the left side? That is so rare it would feel kinda like a stranger....
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:37 AM ET
I think Kunitz sutter dupuis is a great 3rd line that will score a bunch. I also think we are deeper at forward then we have been in a while. Having a 4th line with Bennett and 2 young hungry and speedy guys like sunqvist rust or Wilson is fine with me. To say this takes us out of contention is just based on hatred of Pittsburgh. If you questioned our D then you'd have a better argument
nurk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: City of Champions, PA
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:37 AM ET
and sorry for not being able to do this last blog but I was asleep in crew rest when this happend.. but WTF!!!!! Oshie to caps for a bottom 6 player, prospect and 3rd!!!

Pens couldnt get him for kuni or sutter straight up? we could have thrown in scuds.. okay not scuds but lovejoy or rust or wilson...

there goes my 3rd line scoring scenerio


you can now continue with todays topic

- nh4442

Troy Brouwer is a solid player with a ton of grit. I don't think Kunitz or Sutter straight up is a better package then Brouwer and future pick and a prospect. IMHO, I think the caps package is better then Kunitz or Sutter.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:39 AM ET
How are they going to fill out their roster this year? Especially next year with a very small increase again in the cap? This trade confuses me because the pens are no longer a threat in the east to come out of it because of the lack of depth. Shouldn't they be trying to retool and stock up the minors?
- jmdodgeser4


sounds like a good strategy for one pennsylvanian team.... whens claude and vorechek getting moved for retooling?
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:41 AM ET
Id go

perron sid kessel
plotnikov geno horn
kuni sutter bennett
wilson sund ufa
rust

Dupes isnt cleared so I didnt use him, we dont know if he will ever be back or if he does how long

What I would want to see is them get tlusty and bergenheim and maybe trade kuni and sutter..

but I think about it more, sutter and kuni could fetch more at trade deadline

- nh4442


he's cleared and probably the front runner to play with sid and kessel.
http://www.usatoday.com/s...ter-blood-clots/71070478/
oldhockeyfan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: North of Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 3 @ 8:42 AM ET
I do not care who he plays with, he is not my concern anymore. First of all I am a Leaf fan and I will follow how Phil does but not worry much about the sideshow or other stuff.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 3 @ 8:43 AM ET
Troy Brouwer is a solid player with a ton of grit. I don't think Kunitz or Sutter straight up is a better package then Brouwer and future pick and a prospect. IMHO, I think the caps package is better then Kunitz or Sutter.
- nurk


I think the argument is that the Pens should have outbid the Blues for Oshie. I personally think the package given up was pretty pathetic.
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