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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 17 @ 10:19 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Does Marc-Andre Fleury Deserve A Vezina Nomination? Does Marc-Andre Fleury Deserve A Vezina Nomination?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 17 @ 10:23 AM ET
Remember all to blame YouMeAndDupuis for the injuries... the damn jinx
sparky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.15.2006

Mar 17 @ 10:23 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Does Marc-Andre Fleury Deserve A Vezina Nomination?
Does Marc-Andre Fleury Deserve A Vezina Nomination?

- Ryan_Wilson


no
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Mar 17 @ 10:37 AM ET
I'm sure he'll get some votes, but I don't see him as a finalist. It doesn't really matter anyway, Carey Price is walking away with it.

Not sure what all of the advanced stats say, but based on traditional stats, and watching his play this year, I think that he has gone from an "average" goalie (top 15ish) to probably a top 8-10 goalie.

For most teams to be successful, that is pretty much all you need. In the playoffs, obviously you need decent overall numbers, but goaltending is more about timing than anything. No one cares if you have a .930 save% if you leak in 3 soft goals in an elimination game. And no one cares if you have an overall .900 save% if you stand on your head in an game #7.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 17 @ 10:52 AM ET
I'm sure he'll get some votes, but I don't see him as a finalist. It doesn't really matter anyway, Carey Price is walking away with it.

Not sure what all of the advanced stats say, but based on traditional stats, and watching his play this year, I think that he has gone from an "average" goalie (top 15ish) to probably a top 8-10 goalie.

For most teams to be successful, that is pretty much all you need. In the playoffs, obviously you need decent overall numbers, but goaltending is more about timing than anything. No one cares if you have a .930 save% if you leak in 3 soft goals in an elimination game. And no one cares if you have an overall .900 save% if you stand on your head in an game #7.

- rival22


I also think he'll get some votes. He leads the league in shutouts and has decent numbers/wins. I don't think he will be a finalist. As you said, Price is the front runner. I'd put Rinne and Holtby behind him, with maybe Fleury, Dubynyk/Elliot in the mix with votes.
Maritimes
Joined: 01.18.2015

Mar 17 @ 10:52 AM ET
Despite Fleury's relatively strong play this season, and 9 shutouts, I just don't see him getting a nomination when there are half a dozen other goalies with just as much claim to the final nominee spot. I think most people would agree that Price and Rinne are locks for the nomination. Fleury is no doubt having a good year, but so are Dubnyk, Schneider, Elliott, Crawford, Holtby, Rask, etc.

Personally I think the nominees will be Price, Rinne & Dubnyk, unless the wheels come off in the final 12-15 games for the Wild.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Mar 17 @ 10:54 AM ET
Judging by your pure hatred in the past for MAF and having not read it first I'm going to guess you're saying no and have both charts and graphs that skew your hatred in the negatory direction.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 17 @ 10:58 AM ET
Judging by your pure hatred in the past for MAF and having not read it first I'm going to guess you're saying no and have both charts and graphs that skew your hatred in the negatory direction.
- Dcoms



He said no, but not a rude no... moreso saying he'd be between 4th and 6th unless he goes on a hot run. Which is fair actually.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Mar 17 @ 10:59 AM ET
Despite Fleury's relatively strong play this season, and 9 shutouts, I just don't see him getting a nomination when there are half a dozen other goalies with just as much claim to the final nominee spot. I think most people would agree that Price and Rinne are locks for the nomination. Fleury is no doubt having a good year, but so are Dubnyk, Schneider, Elliott, Crawford, Holtby, Rask, etc.

Personally I think the nominees will be Price, Rinne & Dubnyk, unless the wheels come off in the final 12-15 games for the Wild.

- Maritimes


I agree with your top 3... I think Dubnyk gets some attention if he keeps the Wild in a playoff spot.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Mar 17 @ 11:00 AM ET
I particularly enjoyed the "chart" with the goalie names in the top left corner but the rest looks like Mohamed Ali tried to draw a straight line with each colour crayon in the box. It's visually less than appealing
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Mar 17 @ 11:01 AM ET
I also think he'll get some votes. He leads the league in shutouts and has decent numbers/wins. I don't think he will be a finalist. As you said, Price is the front runner. I'd put Rinne and Holtby behind him, with maybe Fleury, Dubynyk/Elliot in the mix with votes.
- Streit2ThePoint


Agreed.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Mar 17 @ 11:01 AM ET
I particularly enjoyed the "chart" with the goalie names in the top left corner but the rest looks like Mohamed Ali tried to draw a straight line with each colour crayon in the box. It's visually less than appealing
- Dcoms


okay that was funny.
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Mar 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Does Marc-Andre Fleury Deserve A Vezina Nomination?
Does Marc-Andre Fleury Deserve A Vezina Nomination?

- Ryan_Wilson

Price and Rinne are definite nominee's with 4 or 5 other goalies ( Fleury incuded) that a case could be made for. But the way Price has played he's the runaway favorite
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Mar 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Does Marc-Andre Fleury Deserve A Vezina Nomination?
Does Marc-Andre Fleury Deserve A Vezina Nomination?

- Ryan_Wilson

Price and Rinne are definite nominee's with 4 or 5 other goalies ( Fleury incuded) that a case could be made for. But the way Price has played he's the runaway favorite
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:13 AM ET
Fleury has been outstanding this season.
gzatron
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.27.2012

Mar 17 @ 11:38 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Does Marc-Andre Fleury Deserve A Vezina Nomination?
Does Marc-Andre Fleury Deserve A Vezina Nomination?

- Ryan_Wilson

No he doesnt
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
Lovejoy
thickman1178
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.21.2013

Mar 17 @ 11:59 AM ET
Ill be at the game tonight representing! Not close enough to the ice to bring a sign that youd see, but Ill make sure to boo everytime Sutter touches the puck.
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Mar 17 @ 12:02 PM ET
I particularly enjoyed the "chart" with the goalie names in the top left corner but the rest looks like Mohamed Ali tried to draw a straight line with each colour crayon in the box. It's visually less than appealing
- Dcoms


so good.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Mar 17 @ 12:10 PM ET

Shutout, Fleury? Yes.

Four goal, Fleury? NO.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Mar 17 @ 12:30 PM ET
MAF will rightfully get votes, besides Downie he has been our team MVP.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 17 @ 12:43 PM ET
MAF will rightfully get votes, besides Downie he has been our team MVP.
- nbartley9


Downie for President.
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Mar 17 @ 12:49 PM ET
Downie for President.
- BINGO!

He'd look good riding shotgun with the Staals
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 17 @ 12:53 PM ET
He'd look good riding shotgun with the Staals
- willi


I'd be fine with that.

Think it depends who we end up drafting this year though.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 17 @ 1:01 PM ET
I'd be fine with that.

Think it depends who we end up drafting this year though.

- BINGO!


You think you'll be able to find an undersized agitator who's relatively slow and has some finishing ability and a penchant for blowing a gasket and taking irresponsible penalties? I'd like to see you try to find a gold mine like that.
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