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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Dec 15 @ 9:23 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Avalanche Veteran Trade Target Avalanche Veteran Trade Target
Bradlee3
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tanev hit was clean.
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 15 @ 9:29 AM ET
No thank you on Alex , no more 'veterans' (old) players. Wish Matta the best whatever that may be , he's a total stud.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Dec 15 @ 9:50 AM ET
Tanguay has 6 goals in his last 39 playoff games, and those games were years ago before he lost a step.

I'd rather have Briere.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 15 @ 9:51 AM ET
Yeah pass on Tanguay and any player over 30. Lets revisit Boedker.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Dec 15 @ 9:52 AM ET
Yeah pass on Tanguay and any player over 30. Lets revisit Boedker.
- sammy87

I'd love Boedker but isn't he what Arizona is looking for more of?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Dec 15 @ 9:55 AM ET
Tanguay is kind of like a Tlusty move to me. It's ok but I want something bigger.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 15 @ 9:57 AM ET
I guess Tanguay is a decent "cheaper" option. I just cant bring in another 35 year old, even if he is $3.5M. Give me Tlusty over Tanguay.

And I'd rather have Tlusty than Morin. Even if Morin was cheaper.

I think if we can acquire Tlusty and one of Perron/Kassian, we will be set. I'd trade some sort of futures for Tlusty. Despres for Kassian. Sutter for Perron. Pick two of those three and I think we'd be set up well.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Dec 15 @ 10:02 AM ET
Tanguay has 6 goals in his last 39 playoff games, and those games were years ago before he lost a step.

I'd rather have Briere.

- hardnosed


My only issue with Briere is he has been a better center than winger, but I would take him for a cheaper price.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Dec 15 @ 10:03 AM ET
My only issue with Briere is he has been a better center than winger, but I would take him for a cheaper price.
- usethe1-2-2

Briere is money in the playoffs
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Dec 15 @ 10:08 AM ET
My only issue with Briere is he has been a better center than winger, but I would take him for a cheaper price.
- usethe1-2-2


I wasn't even really advocating for him. It's just that I'd rather have him or even Talbot back instead of Tanguay, especially with another year left on his deal.

I think Briere is close to done, but I've always thought that he and Crosby would work really well together. He's got great vision and anticipation like Crosby, and he thinks the game at a high level like Crosby, and like Crosby he's got the slo-mo thing like in that Lemiexu video last week.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 15 @ 10:09 AM ET
would the pens have any interest in milan michalek?

just turned 30, so not young, but not exactly old. he has produced very well when playing with good linemates (which he obviously would in pitt) while maintaining a solid 2-way game. sens just signed him to a new deal, but because they're trying to give more ice time to young players (stone, hoffman, lazar, etc), he's slipped to the 3rd line.

i think he would be fantastic on malkin's wing, and i can't imagine the sens would want much in return (unless they were eating salary). injuries used to be a bit of a concern, but he hasn't missed any time in the last 2 years, and seems to have his speed back also.

just a thought.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Dec 15 @ 10:12 AM ET
I guess Tanguay is a decent "cheaper" option. I just cant bring in another 35 year old, even if he is $3.5M. Give me Tlusty over Tanguay.

And I'd rather have Tlusty than Morin. Even if Morin was cheaper.

I think if we can acquire Tlusty and one of Perron/Kassian, we will be set. I'd trade some sort of futures for Tlusty. Despres for Kassian. Sutter for Perron. Pick two of those three and I think we'd be set up well.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Morin went to CBJ so he is out, and yes I would rather have Tlusty because of his proven ability. Kassian isn't worth Despres.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Dec 15 @ 10:13 AM ET
would the pens have any interest in milan michalek?

just turned 30, so not young, but not exactly old. he has produced very well when playing with good linemates (which he obviously would in pitt) while maintaining a solid 2-way game. sens just signed him to a new deal, but because they're trying to give more ice time to young players (stone, hoffman, lazar, etc), he's slipped to the 3rd line.

i think he would be fantastic on malkin's wing, and i can't imagine the sens would want much in return (unless they were eating salary). injuries used to be a bit of a concern, but he hasn't missed any time in the last 2 years, and seems to have his speed back also.

just a thought.

- sensarmy_11


I would jump at the chance to land Michalek, though he is on IR right now.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 15 @ 10:13 AM ET
would the pens have any interest in milan michalek?

just turned 30, so not young, but not exactly old. he has produced very well when playing with good linemates (which he obviously would in pitt) while maintaining a solid 2-way game. sens just signed him to a new deal, but because they're trying to give more ice time to young players (stone, hoffman, lazar, etc), he's slipped to the 3rd line.

i think he would be fantastic on malkin's wing, and i can't imagine the sens would want much in return (unless they were eating salary). injuries used to be a bit of a concern, but he hasn't missed any time in the last 2 years, and seems to have his speed back also.

just a thought.

- sensarmy_11


Not so much I have an issue with him as a reclamation project. We all know Sid and Geno have the potential to bring the best out in players needing a change of scenery. But at $4M, just takes up way too much money on a team that is cap strapped. Too much risk, not enough reward for me.

I'd be interested in discussing Stone or Hoffman though.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Dec 15 @ 10:15 AM ET
I guess Tanguay is a decent "cheaper" option. I just cant bring in another 35 year old, even if he is $3.5M. Give me Tlusty over Tanguay.

And I'd rather have Tlusty than Morin. Even if Morin was cheaper.

I think if we can acquire Tlusty and one of Perron/Kassian, we will be set. I'd trade some sort of futures for Tlusty. Despres for Kassian. Sutter for Perron. Pick two of those three and I think we'd be set up well.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


With Maatta out, trading a defenseman away has become a riskier proposition.
dan_77
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MA
Joined: 10.03.2008

Dec 15 @ 10:15 AM ET
Roy won't be moving his boy Tanguay.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 15 @ 10:15 AM ET
would the pens have any interest in milan michalek?

just turned 30, so not young, but not exactly old. he has produced very well when playing with good linemates (which he obviously would in pitt) while maintaining a solid 2-way game. sens just signed him to a new deal, but because they're trying to give more ice time to young players (stone, hoffman, lazar, etc), he's slipped to the 3rd line.

i think he would be fantastic on malkin's wing, and i can't imagine the sens would want much in return (unless they were eating salary). injuries used to be a bit of a concern, but he hasn't missed any time in the last 2 years, and seems to have his speed back also.

just a thought.

- sensarmy_11


I feel like Milan and Tanguay are in that same category, maybe Eberle too. Super talented great shot, provide 0 physical presence. With 87 and 71, the Pens need guys like Honequest, and Kunitz types that can do the dirty work so the stars dont have to. Having more of those other guys, just seems like the Pens will have more of teh same come playoff time.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 15 @ 10:15 AM ET
I would jump at the chance to land Michalek, though he is on IR right now.
- hardnosed


he's off IR and playing tonight.

not sure ottawa is looking to trade him, but i imagine if they were, the price would probably be a pick or prospect (not high end) and maybe a bottom six roster player.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
With Maatta out, trading a defenseman away has become a riskier proposition.
- hardnosed


It's only December. I was told when I had my shoulder done that it was actually pretty difficult to tear it again. Soreness/pain will last quite a bit. If the Pens can go .500 with all these injuries through the 1st week of Jan, maybe a week longer, they're still in great shape.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
Morin went to CBJ so he is out, and yes I would rather have Tlusty because of his proven ability. Kassian isn't worth Despres.
- usethe1-2-2


Oh I know, just saying I'm glad we didnt chase Morin when there are better options like Tlusty (imo)...even knowing now in hindsight that Morin's was pretty cheap, imo.

I really want a skill guy who can create in the top 6....but Kassian is one of a few exceptions. He's very good in the corners and winning puck battles, which would open up space for 87 or 71, plus he still has a lot of upside in terms of his offensive game. That's kind of why I think Kassian + a more skill oriented player would be a great mix.

Maybe takes some minor tweaking to get the deals to work but

Despres for Kassian
Sutter for Perron

Gives us a really nice roster. We could even try to get a cheap Sutter replacement if necessary by using Martin, Spaling, or Dumoulin. OR just keep Sutter and get Tlusty instead of Perron.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Dec 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
I wasn't even really advocating for him. It's just that I'd rather have him or even Talbot back instead of Tanguay, especially with another year left on his deal.

I think Briere is close to done, but I've always thought that he and Crosby would work really well together. He's got great vision and anticipation like Crosby, and he thinks the game at a high level like Crosby, and like Crosby he's got the slo-mo thing like in that Lemiexu video last week.

- hardnosed


I can't remember a time when Briere wasn't good in the playoffs, however, he was probably done two years ago. I still take him over a few depth players, but not my first choice.

Tanguay to me would be ok, if the second year wasn't on there.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 15 @ 10:18 AM ET
I feel like Milan and Tanguay are in that same category, maybe Eberle too. Super talented great shot, provide 0 physical presence. With 87 and 71, the Pens need guys like Honequest, and Kunitz types that can do the dirty work so the stars dont have to. Having more of those other guys, just seems like the Pens will have more of teh same come playoff time.
- sammy87


i think you need to watch michalek play more....he's very physical. he's big and fast and throws his body around a lot.

the issue with him, IMO, is that he needs high end players to be productive, or else he's basically a really good defensive forward. it's entirely possible, and i'd say even likely, that with his skill set, he's a 25g 50p player with malkin...at least.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 15 @ 10:19 AM ET
Not so much I have an issue with him as a reclamation project. We all know Sid and Geno have the potential to bring the best out in players needing a change of scenery. But at $4M, just takes up way too much money on a team that is cap strapped. Too much risk, not enough reward for me.

I'd be interested in discussing Stone or Hoffman though.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


no chance....those are murray's "golden eggs". both are top six forwards who he snagged late in the draft and then developed. i imagine he'd want a hefty price for either (relatively speaking)
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 15 @ 10:21 AM ET
i think you need to watch michalek play more....he's very physical. he's big and fast and throws his body around a lot.

the issue with him, IMO, is that he needs high end players to be productive, or else he's basically a really good defensive forward. it's entirely possible, and i'd say even likely, that with his skill set, he's a 25g 50p player with malkin...at least.

- sensarmy_11


I've only seen him vs the Pens. When he had time and space, yeah hes good, lights out. I just never noticed him grinding it out down low.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 15 @ 10:22 AM ET
With Maatta out, trading a defenseman away has become a riskier proposition.
- hardnosed


Very true. I agree. I guess we need to find out if hes out for a couple weeks or out for the year. Still a pretty big question mark....JR probably wont make a move until that is settled and also the Ehrhoff extension has been decided on.
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