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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
Eklund: 2013-14 NHL Scoring-Per-Ice-Time Leader is Not Who You May Think
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Mar 23 @ 11:22 AM ET
FlyerBuzz
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
I think it's Wayne Simmonds
SotaPopinski
Minnesota Wild
Location: Minny
Joined: 02.21.2011

Mar 23 @ 11:25 AM ET
Hey Mr_Clean, who's your daddy?

I think it's Wayne Simmonds
- Mr_Clean


tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 23 @ 11:25 AM ET
I think it's Wayne Simmonds
- Mr_Clean

Number04
Location: AND THIS IS NOT EVEN HYPOOTHETICAL
Joined: 01.05.2014

Mar 23 @ 11:31 AM ET
its Richard Park
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 23 @ 11:35 AM ET
I think it's Wayne Simmonds
- Mr_Clean

I wish he gave us any sort of clue
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Mar 23 @ 11:51 AM ET
Simmonds is better than Crosby.
NJD Fan
New Jersey Devils
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 07.12.2009

Mar 23 @ 11:51 AM ET
Wayne Simmonds > Mike Richards
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 23 @ 12:16 PM ET
finally Ek! Some love for the Flyers!!
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Mar 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
Hey, it's his site. It should come as no surprise that he'll do as he pleases.

Simmonds is a really great asset for Philly. The guy works hard all of the time, and he can do a bit of everything. It would be one thing if Ek was making a ludicrous comment like saying "Give Simmonds the minutes Sid gets and he'd be better!" no. We all know that wouldn't be the case. However, Simmonds has developed into a nice player that would fit well on just about every team. I think if a franchise could poach one guy off of the Flyers, he'd be the second name mentioned after Giroux. With good reason!

Flyers fans won't stop crowing about him, but other than that he's relatively under the radar. He deserves a little 'attaboy'.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 23 @ 12:38 PM ET
Wayne Simmonds > Mike Richards
- NJD Fan

Richards & Carter: 85 Points

Simmonds, Voracek, Couts, BSchenn & Grossmann: 194

Simmonds and Voracek each alone are outscoring Richards and Carter. On top of that BSchenn is matching Richards in points at 40 and Couturier is shutting down all stars. Imagine how these trades would be viewed if Quick didnt throw the Kings on his back for a Cup...
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Mar 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
mason is awesome
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Mar 23 @ 12:56 PM ET
Hey Look

Ek doesn't realize when a guy doesn't play the PK, or shutdown another team late in a game to protect a lead, it somehow translates into a guy being a stud offensive player, and the guy happens to play for the Flyers

definitely article worthy comparisons in here....
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 23 @ 12:58 PM ET
Kesler for Simmonds, Couturier + 1st.
QuicksEnnormous
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Villa Park, CA
Joined: 02.14.2014

Mar 23 @ 1:04 PM ET
Richards & Carter: 85 Points

Simmonds, Voracek, Couts, BSchenn & Grossmann: 194

Simmonds and Voracek each alone are outscoring Richards and Carter. On top of that BSchenn is matching Richards in points at 40 and Couturier is shutting down all stars. Imagine how these trades would be viewed if Quick didnt throw the Kings on his back for a Cup...

- hereticpride


I don't think its quite that easy of a comparison. Carter made the Olympic team over Giroux for a reason. He is one of the elite wingers in the NHL with near 60% face-offs. I love Simmonds but it was a good trade for the Kings. While Quick did his part Richards was a beast in the series against VAN and against STL.

Richards is having a terrible season, 10 goals total so far this year. I still believe in him come playoff time. The only team in the WC with 1-2 punch at center that can compete with Kopitar and Richards is San Jose.

Nice article though. Sure we will see Simmonds in Quicks crease all night tomorrow.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Mar 23 @ 1:11 PM ET
I don't think its quite that easy of a comparison. Carter made the Olympic team over Giroux for a reason. He is one of the elite wingers in the NHL with near 60% face-offs. I love Simmonds but it was a good trade for the Kings. While Quick did his part Richards was a beast in the series against VAN and against STL.

Richards is having a terrible season, 10 goals total so far this year. I still believe in him come playoff time. The only team in the WC with 1-2 punch at center that can compete with Kopitar and Richards is San Jose.

Nice article though. Sure we will see Simmonds in Quicks crease all night tomorrow.

- QuicksEnnormous

i'm pretty sure the kings would never take simmonds, b.schenn, couts and voracek back for richards and carter

i guess the flyers would need to sweeten the pot with giroux
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Mar 23 @ 1:13 PM ET
Hey Look

Ek doesn't realize when a guy doesn't play the PK, or shutdown another team late in a game to protect a lead, it somehow translates into a guy being a stud offensive player, and the guy happens to play for the Flyers

definitely article worthy comparisons in here....

- TheGame316


Always idiots on here that have to complain about something. Can't just read (or, shocker, choose not to read) the columns and be done with it. What does playing the PK and being a shutdown player have to do with being a stud offensively? Simmonds is a solid player, and clearly takes advantage of his ice time to contribute offensively. He's no slouch as a 2-way forward either. Oh, and he can throw down.

But of course, gotta complain about something, right? Same thing goes for the Flyersbuzz comments. It's no secret Ek is a Flyers fan, and he lives in the Philly area. It's his site, he can write about whatever nonsense he wants. Make your own site and you can too.

End rant.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 23 @ 1:15 PM ET
All the teams benefited from the deals with Columbus making out the worst right now.

It looks like right now the Flyers are winning the trade.
The Kings got a cup.

None of that changes the fact that Simmonds is one of the top power forwards in the league, that he is having a really good year and that any team in the league would gladly accept him in their lineup.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Mar 23 @ 1:19 PM ET
Hey Look

Ek doesn't realize when a guy doesn't play the PK, or shutdown another team late in a game to protect a lead, it somehow translates into a guy being a stud offensive player, and the guy happens to play for the Flyers

definitely article worthy comparisons in here....

- TheGame316

Yes, Simmonds will never be a great offensive player until he gets a regular shift on the PK. You nailed this one
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 23 @ 1:22 PM ET
Always idiots on here that have to complain about something. Can't just read (or, shocker, choose not to read) the columns and be done with it. What does playing the PK and being a shutdown player have to do with being a stud offensively? Simmonds is a solid player, and clearly takes advantage of his ice time to contribute offensively. He's no slouch as a 2-way forward either. Oh, and he can throw down.

But of course, gotta complain about something, right? Same thing goes for the Flyersbuzz comments. It's no secret Ek is a Flyers fan, and he lives in the Philly area. It's his site, he can write about whatever nonsense he wants. Make your own site and you can too.

End rant.

- Rocktane


But he shouldn't use ridiculous statistics that don't mean anything, and phony math that doesn't calculate what he says in does.

(1) Can't use full year points numbers with per game ATOI and come up with any kind of meaningful number.

(2) But even if he were ok on (1), his math is absurd: Point / ATOI would NOT give you average minutes per point; it would give you average points per minute.

Blows his whole argument by not understanding the math behind it.

Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Mar 23 @ 1:22 PM ET
All the teams benefited from the deals with Columbus making out the worst right now.

It looks like right now the Flyers are winning the trade.
The Kings got a cup.

None of that changes the fact that Simmonds is one of the top power forwards in the league, that he is having a really good year and that any team in the league would gladly accept him in their lineup.

- opeth_pa

The Kings got a cup, but it just MIGHT have had something to do with guys they already had in Quick, Kopitar, etc. instead of all Richards.

Yeah, as pointed out above, Columbus was the team that sent away Carter. Not Philly. They always seemed to get lost in the shuffle.

I'm still a fan of both Carter and Richie, but I wouldn't reverse either deal at this point. Pass.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 23 @ 1:23 PM ET
Richards & Carter: 85 Points

Simmonds, Voracek, Couts, BSchenn & Grossmann: 194

Simmonds and Voracek each alone are outscoring Richards and Carter. On top of that BSchenn is matching Richards in points at 40 and Couturier is shutting down all stars. Imagine how these trades would be viewed if Quick didnt throw the Kings on his back for a Cup...

- hereticpride

Carter and Richards have a cup
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Mar 23 @ 1:25 PM ET
Carter and Richards have a cup
- sbroads24


just as relevant as the Sabres having 0. Carter wasn't traded to the Kings by Philadelphia
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 23 @ 1:28 PM ET
Hey Look

Ek doesn't realize when a guy doesn't play the PK, or shutdown another team late in a game to protect a lead, it somehow translates into a guy being a stud offensive player, and the guy happens to play for the Flyers

definitely article worthy comparisons in here....

- TheGame316


Rewrite that and try to have it make sense next time...
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