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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Jul 15 @ 10:41 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Monday Quick Hits on Larsson, Boucher and More
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 15 @ 10:43 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Monday Quick Hits on Larsson, Boucher and More
- bmeltzer

Bill, did you accidentally publish this early?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 15 @ 10:45 AM ET
Bill, did you accidentally publish this early?
- jak521


Yes.... still working on it.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 15 @ 10:50 AM ET
Bill, is Manning one of the 48 contracts?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 15 @ 10:55 AM ET
The team's lone remaining restricted free agent at this point is defenseman Brandon Manning.
- bmeltzer



What happened to Wellwood?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
What happened to Wellwood?
- Tomahawk

I thought he already signed his tender.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
I thought he already signed his tender.
- mayorofangrytown



If he hasn't, he's going to. He'd be a fool not to. He has zero leverage.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 15 @ 10:59 AM ET
Bill, is Manning one of the 48 contracts?
- PhillySportsGuy



He received a qualifying offer, so yes, he is.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:05 AM ET
Not gonna lie, as a Devils fan seeing a Flyers bog with "Quick Hits on Larsson, Boucher" in the title confused me a bit
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:06 AM ET
He received a qualifying offer, so yes, he is.
- MJL


So assuming Stolarz slides and Laughton stays, the Flyers have 3 contract slots to work with?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:07 AM ET
Not gonna lie, as a Devils fan seeing a Flyers bog with "Quick Hits on Larsson, Boucher" in the title confused me a bit
- MannySilvers


How has your Larsson progressed? Do you guys still feel the same way about him you did 2 years ago?
dmleip
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.04.2009

Jul 15 @ 11:07 AM ET
Just throwing this out there to hear some legitimate responses but, what about a trade for Phaneuf? We probably have the assets (one or more defenseman need to be moved and possibly Read)? His style would maybe bring a little more stability to the Flyer's questionable D.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 15 @ 11:10 AM ET
Just throwing this out there to hear some legitimate responses but, what about a trade for Phaneuf? We probably have the assets (one or more defenseman need to be moved and possibly Read)? His style would maybe bring a little more stability to the Flyer's questionable D.
- dmleip

His style would bring less stability, IMO.

He is a very agressive guy.. Big hitter, big shot, but with his high reward comes even bigger risks. He is constantly sacrificing position for body contact (see games 7 of playoffs), and when it doesnt go his way.. the results are ugly.

Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 15 @ 11:10 AM ET

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:10 AM ET
Just throwing this out there to hear some legitimate responses but, what about a trade for Phaneuf? We probably have the assets (one or more defenseman need to be moved and possibly Read)? His style would maybe bring a little more stability to the Flyer's questionable D.
- dmleip


Nope. They have several slow physical defenseman already. Streit has a booming shot for the PP. He doesn't offer this team much more than they already have.

The Flyers would be in the market for young, smooth skating defenseman with offensive abilities.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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Jul 15 @ 11:11 AM ET
So assuming Stolarz slides and Laughton stays, the Flyers have 3 contract slots to work with?
- PhillySportsGuy



Once the RFA's are taken care of, they'll be at 50-contracts, with 2 being slide eligible. If you assume Laughton stays, that leaves them with only one slot to work with.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:13 AM ET

- Don'tForgetTocchet


If that shootout had been played 10 times the Flyers would have lost 9 of them.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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Jul 15 @ 11:14 AM ET
His style would bring less stability, IMO.

He is a very agressive guy.. Big hitter, big shot, but with his high reward comes even bigger risks. He is constantly sacrificing position for body contact (see games 7 of playoffs), and when it doesnt go his way.. the results are ugly.

- jak521



The instances where Dion runs around and gets caught are a lot like Matt Carle's turnovers... they do happen, but not to the degree of frequency that most fans would have you believe. He's generally a pretty good defender.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:15 AM ET
Once the RFA's are taken care of, they'll be at 50-contracts, with 2 being slide eligible. If you assume Laughton stays, that leaves them with only one slot to work with.
- Tomahawk


If that's the case, it makes even more sense to move Mez for a pick. That way they can sign Gagne and remain under the cap without using Pronger's LTIR. Then they will have one more open slot in case they want to make a move at the deadline.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 15 @ 11:15 AM ET
Just throwing this out there to hear some legitimate responses but, what about a trade for Phaneuf? We probably have the assets (one or more defenseman need to be moved and possibly Read)? His style would maybe bring a little more stability to the Flyer's questionable D.
- dmleip



Maybe at the trade deadline... they don't have the cap-space to pull it off right now.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 11:17 AM ET
Just throwing this out there to hear some legitimate responses but, what about a trade for Phaneuf? We probably have the assets (one or more defenseman need to be moved and possibly Read)? His style would maybe bring a little more stability to the Flyer's questionable D.
- dmleip


It would cost too much, and he's not a real #1 defenseman. The Flyers are better off getting thru this season, then looking at what's available in summer 2014 once they know for sure if Kimmo is done.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:17 AM ET
The instances where Dion runs around and gets caught are a lot like Matt Carle's turnovers... they do happen, but not to the degree of frequency that most fans would have you believe. He's generally a pretty good defender.
- Tomahawk


I don't think he would make much of an impact on the team. Plus he's a short term acquisition and it would take some decent players to get him. I would rather have Read and Coburn than Phaneuf.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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Jul 15 @ 11:19 AM ET
If that's the case, it makes even more sense to move Mez for a pick. That way they can sign Gagne and remain under the cap without using Pronger's LTIR. Then they will have one more open slot in case they want to make a move at the deadline.
- PhillySportsGuy



If Mez could have been moved for a pick, he'd be gone already. There was already zero interest in salary dump trades for comparable guys in comparable situations (Kuba, Colaiacovo, Gilbert) and their teams had to CBO them instead.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 15 @ 11:20 AM ET
The instances where Dion runs around and gets caught are a lot like Matt Carle's turnovers... they do happen, but not to the degree of frequency that most fans would have you believe. He's generally a pretty good defender.
- Tomahawk

Did you watch him in the Playoffs? Im not saying he is a terrible player.. actually, he is a very good, very rare, d-man. He is not elite, but he is above average, and to have the ability to be a 40+ point d-man, and play the physical game he plays... its something else.

However, he does routinely put himself out of position.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:21 AM ET
If Mez could have been moved for a pick, he'd be gone already. There was already zero interest in salary dump trades for comparable guys in comparable situations (Kuba, Colaiacovo, Gilbert) and their teams had to CBO them instead.
- Tomahawk


If Mez plays in pre-season and shows he's healthy they may have some takers.
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