Richard Cloutier: So I'm the Barons Blogger Now?

Barons, Oilers, pretty much the same team no?

Barons, Oilers, pretty much the same team no?
- LeftCoaster

Except the Barons won't be in the running for a lottery pick.


Oh, and Leafs suck.

Except the Barons won't be in the running for a lottery pick.
- Nucker101

I'm hoping if the 2012/2013 season is a write-off, Katz will pay off the guy running the lottery ball machine again, so the Oilers can make the 4th consecutive 1st overall pick.

I'm hoping if the 2012/2013 season is a write-off, Katz will pay off the guy running the lottery ball machine again, so the Oilers can make the 4th consecutive 1st overall pick.
- Maxbone

Sweet then you know for sure Tambo's rebuild is going according to plan; sit back and eventually things will sort themselves out....

I'm hoping if the 2012/2013 season is a write-off, Katz will pay off the guy running the lottery ball machine again, so the Oilers can make the 4th consecutive 1st overall pick.
- Maxbone

Bettman will make sure that it goes to a rebuilding American team. Columbus, Dallas, NYI will all be considered.

Bettman will make sure that it goes to a rebuilding American team. Columbus, Dallas, NYI will all be considered.
- Nucker101

Hmmm...Nathan McKinnon, Seth Jones and Sean Monahan.

If Oilers draft at #4 they can take Curtis Lazar. I can live with it.

Hmmm...Nathan McKinnon, Seth Jones and Sean Monahan.

If Oilers draft at #4 they can take Curtis Lazar. I can live with it.
- Maxbone

We'll have to see how they continue to develop before coming up with a consensus top 4 at this point. I remember when Couturier was supposedly a lock top be a top 3 pick, potentially #1 and he saw his draft stock fall considerably. Turns out that the Flyers got a steal, but you cans see my point.


Either way, there's nod denying the fact that the Oilers will be a powerhouse soon, especially with another lottery pick.

Just a quick note to people who figure the Oilers will be a lock for a lottery pick if the 2012/13 season is lost. The last lock-out the one where the penguins won the right to pick Sydney Crosby the lottery system was a whole lot differnt than the one they use for the regular season. The lower level lose balls in the lottery depending on how many times they drafted first over-all. Hense with three first over-all picks the Oiler's might end up with the least balls in the lottery pick.

Saying that the NHL hasn't said they will cut the whole season off and most figure they will be up and running by the American Thanksgiving.

Edit: Please join me in Boycotting the NHL advertisers including ATB, Air Canada, Safeway, Reebok, Rexall Pharmacies, Scotia Bank......and heaven forbid Timmies(OMG I am hooked on Timmies) until the Lock-out is done and or the Fans voices are heard. This is a total slap in the face to All NHL fans who make up a good sized portien of this 3.4 Billion dollar pie they can't figure out how to divide.

Hmmm...Nathan McKinnon, Seth Jones and Sean Monahan.

If Oilers draft at #4 they can take Curtis Lazar. I can live with it.
- Maxbone

I played in the same hockey program as Seth jones, nbd. I'd love to see him play for us next year.

Hmmm...Nathan McKinnon, Seth Jones and Sean Monahan.

If Oilers draft at #4 they can take Curtis Lazar. I can live with it.
- Maxbone

Yes... Yes. Everyone conveniently forget about Barkov... Yes.

I am a huge fan of Nu.Hop. Nevertheless it is wrong to elevate him above Landeskog without more direct evidence. Landeskog had a monster year. He has been named captain of the Avalanche, youngest in NHL history.

Statements that suggest Nu.Hop was a better rookie than Landeskog is nothing more than an awkward attempt to rewrite history. Do you think it is safe to now suggest that Hall was a better rookie than Skinner. Not fair to either Nu.Hop or Hall to hang responsibility on them for not having better years.

Richard, overall your blogs have been really strong over most of the last year. Be careful not to slip into the outrageous.

You could make amends by doing a reflective and objective piece on last year's rookies and give your readers a chance to reflect the growth of young talent. I think you might want to revisit the Hall draft again and rank the overall growth of the top prospects from that year. Right now I would place Hall at #4 from his draft class.

I am a huge fan of Nu.Hop. Nevertheless it is wrong to elevate him above Landeskog without more direct evidence. Landeskog had a monster year. He has been named captain of the Avalanche, youngest in NHL history.

Statements that suggest Nu.Hop was a better rookie than Landeskog is nothing more than an awkward attempt to rewrite history. Do you think it is safe to now suggest that Hall was a better rookie than Skinner. Not fair to either Nu.Hop or Hall to hang responsibility on them for not having better years.

Richard, overall your blogs have been really strong over most of the last year. Be careful not to slip into the outrageous.

You could make amends by doing a reflective and objective piece on last year's rookies and give your readers a chance to reflect the growth of young talent. I think you might want to revisit the Hall draft again and rank the overall growth of the top prospects from that year. Right now I would place Hall at #4 from his draft class.
- spatso

Nice arguement but for me the stats say it all.
RNH 62gp 52p
Landeskog 82gp 52p

I think for me I will take RNH on my team anyday of the week and twice on sundays. That is all.

I am a huge fan of Nu.Hop. Nevertheless it is wrong to elevate him above Landeskog without more direct evidence. Landeskog had a monster year. He has been named captain of the Avalanche, youngest in NHL history.

Statements that suggest Nu.Hop was a better rookie than Landeskog is nothing more than an awkward attempt to rewrite history. Do you think it is safe to now suggest that Hall was a better rookie than Skinner. Not fair to either Nu.Hop or Hall to hang responsibility on them for not having better years.

Richard, overall your blogs have been really strong over most of the last year. Be careful not to slip into the outrageous.

You could make amends by doing a reflective and objective piece on last year's rookies and give your readers a chance to reflect the growth of young talent. I think you might want to revisit the Hall draft again and rank the overall growth of the top prospects from that year. Right now I would place Hall at #4 from his draft class.
- spatso

Nugent-Hopkins got the same amount of points, on a crappier team, in 20 less games. What more evidence do you need? Just because Colorado decided to be retards, and name a 19 year old their captain. It doesn't make Landeskog any better of a player IMO.

Nice arguement but for me the stats say it all.
RNH 62gp 52p
Landeskog 82gp 52p

I think for me I will take RNH on my team anyday of the week and twice on sundays. That is all.
- longbottom

So, why do you think Landeskog had such strong Calder support?

I am a huge fan of Nu.Hop. Nevertheless it is wrong to elevate him above Landeskog without more direct evidence. Landeskog had a monster year. He has been named captain of the Avalanche, youngest in NHL history.

Statements that suggest Nu.Hop was a better rookie than Landeskog is nothing more than an awkward attempt to rewrite history. Do you think it is safe to now suggest that Hall was a better rookie than Skinner. Not fair to either Nu.Hop or Hall to hang responsibility on them for not having better years.

Richard, overall your blogs have been really strong over most of the last year. Be careful not to slip into the outrageous.

You could make amends by doing a reflective and objective piece on last year's rookies and give your readers a chance to reflect the growth of young talent. I think you might want to revisit the Hall draft again and rank the overall growth of the top prospects from that year. Right now I would place Hall at #4 from his draft class.
- spatso

Your posts were getting better...please do not let their quality slip like has happened in this post.

Nuge was running away with the scoring race. It was his inability to not trip over the blue line that lost him the Calder. That is not homerism, that is a widely held belief. He plays those game, and holds true to his ppg%, and there is no reason to think he wasn't going to, he finishes about 16 points higher than Landeskog.

http://video.oilers.nhl.c...ocenter/console?id=147422

Only an Oiler...freak injuries kill this team...

Who are the 3 that are hands down better than Hall.

Hall scored more Than Skinner this year, in similar games...

Hall had a better ppg% than Seguin...Hall being on a weaker team.

Who is left? Fowler?

So, why do you think Landeskog had such strong Calder support?
- spatso

An injury to one and the other almost leading his upstart team to the playoffs...Usually though the hands down winner of the rookie scoring race is the Calder winner.

Nugent-Hopkins got the same amount of points, on a crappier team, in 20 less games. What more evidence do you need? Just because Colorado decided to be retards, and name a 19 year old their captain. It doesn't make Landeskog any better of a player IMO.
- Moynes

I think your entirely wrong. Landeskog was named captain of the Kitchener Rangers in very similar circumstances. He was one of the youngest players on a star laden team, he was a Swede playing in the OHL and, yet, still his maturity and leadership was overwhelmingly respected by teammates, opponents, coaches and management. It does not detract from Nu.Hop's talent to recognize the special package offered by Landeskog.

Points are a really important measure of a players value. But, you cannot discount the intangibles. Everybody seems to love this kid and how he plays the game.

Your posts were getting better...please do not let their quality slip like has happened in this post.

Nuge was running away with the scoring race. It was his inability to not trip over the blue line that lost him the Calder. That is not homerism, that is a widely held belief. He plays those game, and holds true to his ppg%, and there is no reason to think he wasn't going to, he finishes about 16 points higher than Landeskog.

http://video.oilers.nhl.c...ocenter/console?id=147422

Only an Oiler...freak injuries kill this team...

Who are the 3 that are hands down better than Hall.

Hall scored more Than Skinner this year, in similar games...

Hall had a better ppg% than Seguin...Hall being on a weaker team.

Who is left? Fowler?
- OilHorse

Yes those are the four that need be debated. If the draft were redone today I would suggest the Oilers revised order would be:

Seguin
Fowler
Skinner
Hall

I understand it is highly subjective but a winning team needs a #1 Dman and the Oilers may have remedied the problem. Dmen come along far more slowly. Fowler has the potential to break out. He may not be as good as Karlsson in Ottawa. But, he will likely be better than Carlsson of the Caps. He is shooting for a pretty high standard.

I think your entirely wrong. Landeskog was named captain of the Kitchener Rangers in very similar circumstances. He was one of the youngest players on a star laden team, he was a Swede playing in the OHL and, yet, still his maturity and leadership was overwhelmingly respected by teammates, opponents, coaches and management. It does not detract from Nu.Hop's talent to recognize the special package offered by Landeskog.

Points are a really important measure of a players value. But, you cannot discount the intangibles. Everybody seems to love this kid and how he plays the game.
- spatso

Ahhh....finally back to specs...

I am a Landikog fans...Kid is out standing...I choose my Mancrush on this kids...

Still hold to Nuge as point leader with a full season is the Calder winner...

Ahhh....finally back to specs...

I am a Landikog fans...Kid is out standing...I choose my Mancrush on this kids...

Still hold to Nuge as point leader with a full season is the Calder winner...
- OilHorse

If they had done a proper video review they would have seen there was a crease violation on the Brett Hull goal and Buffalo rather than Dallas might have been engraved on the Stanley Cup.

Nugent-Hopkins got the same amount of points, on a crappier team, in 20 less games. What more evidence do you need? Just because Colorado decided to be retards, and name a 19 year old their captain. It doesn't make Landeskog any better of a player IMO.
- Moynes

that aside, I think the voting last year for caldar was a tough one. both players deserved that award. gabe is a slightly better all around player, but nug is beautiful with the puck. I disagree that nug was on a worse team... offensively speaking. gabe didn't have hall, eberle to pass to. dushene and o'reilly are good hockey players, but neither is as offensively talented as those guys

Nice arguement but for me the stats say it all.
RNH 62gp 52p
Landeskog 82gp 52p

I think for me I will take RNH on my team anyday of the week and twice on sundays. That is all.
- longbottom

Small sample size to automatically decide that based on1 year of stats.RNH over time prob still owns it but it's not a lock at this point.

Yes those are the four that need be debated. If the draft were redone today I would suggest the Oilers revised order would be:

Seguin: NHL TOTALS 155 40 49 89
Fowler: Seriously??? Hall 2 spots after Fowler? Quite a bit of regression there...
Skinner NHL TOTALS 146 51 56 107
Hall NHL TOTALS 126 49 46 95

I understand it is highly subjective but a winning team needs a #1 Dman and the Oilers may have remedied the problem. Dmen come along far more slowly. Fowler has the potential to break out. He may not be as good as Karlsson in Ottawa. But, he will likely be better than Carlsson of the Caps. He is shooting for a pretty high standard.
- spatso

Seguin, 2 full seasons, lowest goal scorer, 30 more games than Hall and only +3 on assists

Skinner...outstanding rookie year...hit buy injury and did the least amount of points out of the 3 forwards...but injuries only work against the Oilers I guess...

So I think Hall has acquitted himself, so far, very well. And feel there is no reason to have any switch in draft order...

that aside, I think the voting last year for caldar was a tough one. both players deserved that award. gabe is a slightly better all around player, but nug is beautiful with the puck. I disagree that nug was on a worse team... offensively speaking. gabe didn't have hall, eberle to pass to. dushene and o'reilly are good hockey players, but neither is as offensively talented as those guys
- ChrisMS

If you were to redo last year's draft I think the Oil would take Nu.Hop first. If Colorado had the first overall that would probably take Landeskog. My guess is if you gave the choice to all 30 teams to pick first on a repeat draft you might see a 15-15 split. I would take Nu.Hop.