Implausible to me is what whacky is defined as. A whacky trade involves players that teams normally wouldn't deal.

Something along the lines of Brassard for a pick + prospect, would seem plausible, but defeats the purpose of the topic for me.

I want to see star players involved, and obviously a fan of whatever team is trading that player is not going to be a fan of the trade I suggest.

I also feel that CLB would win the Nash trade IMO
- mfreedman

Fair enough on the whacky-implausible.

The trade is very far from a 'win' my friend. The gaping hole left by Nash's departure would not be filled by Gud and Markstrom...and the picks mean nothing.

Fair enough on the whacky-implausible.

The trade is very far from a 'win' my friend. The gaping hole left by Nash's departure would not be filled by Gud and Markstrom...and the picks mean nothing.
- dawgzhouse

No, the hole would not be filled for Nash, but I feel that CLB is more in need of a future goaltender and more back-end strength.

I personally prefer building from the back-end out. If you traded away Nash, you would most likely end up near the bottom by the end of the year, and have a good chance at drafting Nail with your first. I also believe that you would get a top pick with FLA's 1st, as Theodore and Clemmensen are not a combination that will get them out fot he bottom 10 in the long run.

Carter/Johansen is a very good 1-2 punch for the future, and having a future start goalie in Markkstrom and a very bright looking D-man in Gudbranson to develop next to the Wiz seems like a no brainer for me.

Nash is a good talent, but I feel the other areas are more pressing to address and you could afford to send him away for a nice package.

To CGY: Malkin
To PIT: Iginla
It could work out nicely, I've heard this a couple of times after the Olympics, not sure if that makes more or less "wacky".

To CGY: Malkin
To PIT: Iginla
It could work out nicely, I've heard this a couple of times after the Olympics, not sure if that makes more or less "wacky".
- hockeypunk36

Ummm, more likely

to CGY: Malkin
to PIT: Iginla + 2012 1st + 2012 2nd + 2013 1st +...

Iginla has 3-4 years left.

Malkin has 13-14

Ummm, more likely

to CGY: Malkin
to PIT: Iginla + 2012 1st + 2012 2nd + 2013 1st +...

Iginla has 3-4 years left.

Malkin has 13-14
- mfreedman

Yeah but then that makes the trade less wacky

Yeah but then that makes the trade less wacky
- hockeypunk36

Lol, less wacky, but still very wacky

I figured Wacky meant equal in value, but unlikely to happen..

I.e. Crosby for Ovechkin

Lol, less wacky, but still very wacky

I figured Wacky meant equal in value, but unlikely to happen..

I.e. Crosby for Ovechkin
- mfreedman

Ah okay, I saw wacky as meaning it could happen, but it won't because the players involved would be franchise type players. I said that trade because Crosby would finally have a talented winger who he has played with him in the Olympics, and Calgary would have a young center to build around. Pit having a win now mentally, and Cgy having a more rebuild mentally. I can't believe I'm rationalizing a trade in the "Wacky Trade Scenario" thread

No, the hole would not be filled for Nash, but I feel that CLB is more in need of a future goaltender and more back-end strength.

I personally prefer building from the back-end out. If you traded away Nash, you would most likely end up near the bottom by the end of the year, and have a good chance at drafting Nail with your first. I also believe that you would get a top pick with FLA's 1st, as Theodore and Clemmensen are not a combination that will get them out fot he bottom 10 in the long run.

Carter/Johansen is a very good 1-2 punch for the future, and having a future start goalie in Markkstrom and a very bright looking D-man in Gudbranson to develop next to the Wiz seems like a no brainer for me.

Nash is a good talent, but I feel the other areas are more pressing to address and you could afford to send him away for a nice package.
- mfreedman

While Gudbranson would be nice to have you're ignoring Moore, Savard and Goloubef so the need for Gud isn't as necessary as you are portraying.

Markstrom would also be nice to have but given the almost surplus of promising back-up and prospect goalies in the NHL/AHL/Europe it doesn't warrant losing Nash.

Nash is also an important part of every facet of the game pp/sh/even strength and perhaps even more importantly is the marketing factor he brings to a team desperate to fill seats. So no, we couldn't afford to send him away for the proposed deal.

Ah okay, I saw wacky as meaning it could happen, but it won't because the players involved would be franchise type players. I said that trade because Crosby would finally have a talented winger and he has played with him in the Olympics, and Calgary would have a young center to build around.
- hockeypunk36

Oh don't get me wrong, I think that PIT would be very interested in grabbing Iginla for the next few years, but they would need to offer more than a guy at the end of his career to get Malkin.

While Gudbranson would be nice to have you're ignoring Moore, Savard and Goloubef so the need for Gud isn't as necessary as you are portraying.

Markstrom would also be nice to have but given the almost surplus of promising back-up and prospect goalies in the NHL/AHL/Europe it doesn't warrant losing Nash.

Nash is also an important part of every facet of the game pp/sh/even strength and perhaps even more importantly is the marketing factor he brings to a team desperate to fill seats. So no, we couldn't afford to send him away for the proposed deal.
- dawgzhouse

While I do agree with your evaluation of Gudbranson not being 100% necessary, I do feel that you have a clear void in goaltending at the moment (I have Mason in my pool ).. Markkstrom seems probable to be a very capable NHL goaltender, and while I do not see him being enough to land Nash, Gud + a potential top 10, might make it mroe worth it.

Would Nail fill more seats than Nash would?

Oh don't get me wrong, I think that PIT would be very interested in grabbing Iginla for the next few years, but they would need to offer more than a guy at the end of his career to get Malkin.
- mfreedman

ok so how about
To CGY: Malkin
To PIT: Iginla, 3 1st's, and Sven Baertschi (CGY's top prospect according to hockeys future)

ok so how about
To CGY: Malkin
To PIT: Iginla, 3 1st's, and Sven Baertschi (CGY's top prospect according to hockeys future)
- hockeypunk36

lol, ok, now that's a trade!

but now you have to even it out on Pittsburgh's end

to CGY: Malkin + 2 1sts
to PIT: Iginla, 3 1sts, Baertschi, Bourque

Uggh,, with Bourque now its leaning in PIT favour... who else can we add from PIT?

lol, ok, now that's a trade!

but now you have to even it out on Pittsburgh's end

to CGY: Malkin + 2 1sts
to PIT: Iginla, 3 1sts, Baertschi, Bourque

Uggh,, with Bourque now its leaning in PIT favour... who else can we add from PIT?
- mfreedman

I don't know much about Pit prospects and I'm too lazy to look them up lol so Dupuis maybe?

lol, ok, now that's a trade!

but now you have to even it out on Pittsburgh's end

to CGY: Malkin + 2 1sts
to PIT: Iginla, 3 1sts, Baertschi, Bourque

Uggh,, with Bourque now its leaning in PIT favour... who else can we add from PIT?
- mfreedman

I think if Calgary is moving Iginla, they want an Iginla-esque player in Staal as opposed to Malkin.

I think if Calgary is moving Iginla, they want an Iginla-esque player in Staal as opposed to Malkin.
- Morris

While you may be right, I doubt that they would have any second thoughts about getting Malkin in a trade should they get the chance.

i see them going after a guy like Couturier if they could get him for Iggy (assuming the salary cap didn't exist)

5 WAY TRADE!
Montreal Trades: Scott Gomez, Max Pacioretty
Montreal Recieves: Penner, Lecavalier

New Jersey Trades:Kovalchuk, Volchenkov
New Jersey Recieves: Hodgson, Luongo

Vancouver Trades: Luongo, Hodgson
Vancouver Recieves: Volchenkov, Pacioretty

Tampa Bay Trades: Lecavalier, Hedman
Tampa Bay Receives: Gomez, Doughty

LA Kings Trades: Penner, Doughty
LA Kings Recieve: Kovalchuk, Hedman

5 WAY TRADE!
Montreal Trades: Scott Gomez, Max Pacioretty
Montreal Recieves: Penner, Lecavalier

New Jersey Trades:Kovalchuk, Volchenkov
New Jersey Recieves: Hodgson, Luongo

Vancouver Trades: Luongo, Hodgson
Vancouver Recieves: Volchenkov, Pacioretty

Tampa Bay Trades: Lecavalier, Hedman
Tampa Bay Receives: Gomez, Doughty

LA Kings Trades: Penner, Doughty
LA Kings Recieve: Kovalchuk, Hedman



- kent

TB and NJ get absolutely robbed, Vancouver and MTL get an inordinately good deal.

I think this tread needs more clarification on what "Whacky" actually means

I think this tread needs more clarification on what "Whacky" actually means
- senstroll

According to Urban Dictionary:

Whacky:

A drink consisting of Vodka, Sprite, Mike's Hard Lemonade (strawberry) and Powerade. Causes an awesome euphoric lightheadedness that makes you wanna hump like a lion-monkey in Japan

Does that help everybody?

According to Urban Dictionary:

Whacky:

A drink consisting of Vodka, Sprite, Mike's Hard Lemonade (strawberry) and Powerade. Causes an awesome euphoric lightheadedness that makes you wanna hump like a lion-monkey in Japan

Does that help everybody?
- mfreedman

That drink is hangover central. WAY too much sugar for this old man

That drink is hangover central. WAY too much sugar for this old man
- Morris

Just have 2 of those and then chug 5 gallons of water. Should do the trick

As for the whacky trade definition, how about:

An trade unlikely to occur because of the players involved, the teams involved, or other factors, but still has relatively fair value (not based on homerism) for the teams involved.

Just have 2 of those and then chug 5 gallons of water. Should do the trick

As for the whacky trade definition, how about:

An trade unlikely to occur because of the players involved, the teams involved, or other factors, but still has relatively fair value (not based on homerism) for the teams involved.
- mfreedman

so that 5 player trade above does not qualify ...

so that 5 player trade above does not qualify ...
- senstroll

too lopsided. But could be a good starting point.

so that 5 player trade above does not qualify ...
- senstroll

more likely 5 team trade:

To EDM: Franson + Rundblad + Bogosian

To TOR: Eberle

To OTT: Kadri + Tinordi + EDM 2012 3rd

To MTL: Hemsky + TOR 2012 2nd

To WPG: Frattin + Kostitsen

I hope this is close

more likely 5 team trade:

To EDM: Franson + Rundblad + Bogosian

To TOR: Eberle

To OTT: Kadri + Tinordi + EDM 2012 3rd

To MTL: Hemsky + TOR 2012 2nd

To WPG: Frattin + Kostitsen

I hope this is close
- mfreedman

That's a lot to give up for Eberle