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Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 19 @ 12:50 PM ET
I base my opinions on the available information that I have. I was not present at any of the meetings with the players and Babcock. If that is true, I would say no. It was not proper. However, that is hearsay. The GM is on the record as saying he thought Babcock's intentions were genuine.
- MJL


So cause the gm said it you believe that?
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 19 @ 12:50 PM ET
I don't think that if you have genuine intentions that you demand someone's phone and then tell them to leave.
- MJL



I don’t think you resign when and investigation is announced if you are innocent.

Which assumption seems to better fit?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 19 @ 12:52 PM ET
did teh flyers at the time like Gilbert more than Leclair......some food for thought.
- hello it's me 2050


No. But they thought and hoped Dionne could be a 25-30 goal winger based off his rookie season with Montreal. LeClair was brought in to be a forechecking presence who was versatile (could play LW or C) and they thought could bring occasional offense. Turned out they had a 50-goal winger who had been underused in Montreal.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 12:56 PM ET
Again, I dont think Babcock has any clue how to interact with people on a human level. In his mind that could have seemed completely normal.
- MBFlyerfan


Quite possible on the latter.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 12:58 PM ET
Lmao. A few players had no issue with it. They said it so must be true. Lmao.
- Peter Richards


Jenner, Gaudreau and Werenski are all reliable sources. The players who complained and had an issue with it said it so it must be true?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 12:58 PM ET
So cause the gm said it you believe that?
- Peter Richards



The GM is a reliable source.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 1:00 PM ET
I don’t think you resign when and investigation is announced if you are innocent.

Which assumption seems to better fit?

- Peter Richards


As I said to you previously, someone getting fired or resigning is not an automatic indication of guilt. I believe in due process. As I said to you previously, I prefer not to assume in matters like this. Again, due process.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 19 @ 1:04 PM ET
Jenner, Gaudreau and Werenski are all reliable sources. The players who complained and had an issue with it said it so it must be true?
- MJL


Were they the ones who reported wrong doing? Why did he resign?
atibus
Joined: 06.23.2011

Sep 19 @ 1:04 PM ET
Flipping through someone's personal photos... no big deal.

Didn't give someone lunch... sociopath.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 19 @ 1:05 PM ET
As I said to you previously, someone getting fired or resigning is not an automatic indication of guilt. I believe in due process. As I said to you previously, I prefer not to assume in matters like this. Again, due process.
- MJL


But you assumed he didn’t have bad intentions, no?
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 19 @ 1:11 PM ET
The GM is a reliable source.
- MJL


You believe that? We should believe what all gm s say? Or is it just in This case he’s a reliable source. Please elaborate. Was Fletcher a reliable source?
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC
Joined: 01.10.2015

Sep 19 @ 1:13 PM ET
Some real obtuse takes here today

Was Louis CK’s use of power just good intentions?

✊🏼🍗
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 1:13 PM ET
Were they the ones who reported wrong doing? Why did he resign?
- Peter Richards


You're asking the same repeated questions that you asked on the other thread.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 1:15 PM ET
But you assumed he didn’t have bad intentions, no?
- Peter Richards


No, I referenced a reliable source that said he felt he had good intentions. Why are you having such difficulty with this? Same nonsense as on the other thread. Come up with something new.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 1:16 PM ET
You believe that? We should believe what all gm s say? Or is it just in This case he’s a reliable source. Please elaborate. Was Fletcher a reliable source?
- Peter Richards


This makes zero sense.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC
Joined: 01.10.2015

Sep 19 @ 1:17 PM ET
This makes zero sense.
- MJL


Maybe you can’t comprehend it
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 19 @ 1:18 PM ET
Some real obtuse takes here today

Was Louis CK’s use of power just good intentions?

✊🏼🍗

- black_francis

Wait, what? Louis CK exposed himself to girls who worked for him…
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 19 @ 1:20 PM ET
You're asking the same repeated questions that you asked on the other thread.
- MJL


You have not answered them and of the two questions posted one i did not ask before.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 19 @ 1:20 PM ET
Flipping through someone's personal photos... no big deal.

Didn't give someone lunch... sociopath.

- atibus



Taking the phone in to another room in his house, then coming back out saying no lunch for you....sociopath.
atibus
Joined: 06.23.2011

Sep 19 @ 1:22 PM ET
Taking the phone in to another room in his house, then coming back out saying no lunch for you....sociopath.
- MBFlyerfan


Maybe the d pics weren't to his liking?
atibus
Joined: 06.23.2011

Sep 19 @ 1:23 PM ET
Kyle Beach is exhibit A for players of what happens when you report something to management.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 19 @ 1:23 PM ET
Maybe the d pics weren't to his liking?
- atibus



there is that....
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
No, I referenced a reliable source that said he felt he had good intentions. Why are you having such difficulty with this? Same nonsense as on the other thread. Come up with something new.
- MJL


Well of course he had an agenda. Not everything someone does, regardless of his reputation has evil intent. His agenda could literally have been what he said. To get the know his players better and form relationships.
- MJL


who were you referencing?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
Taking the phone in to another room in his house, then coming back out saying no lunch for you....sociopath.
- MBFlyerfan

You know, something’s are so mean I can’t help but laugh when I hear them. I definitely laugh when I read them. When I read Feanor’s post, I was only disappointed that the young player didn’t at least get lunch.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
Kyle Beach is exhibit A for players of what happens when you report something to management.
- atibus



Maybe Columbus gets rewarded with the #1 pick next season.
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