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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 20 @ 11:22 AM ET
No question. My issue is with the young player not handling internally. You don’t trust management, go to teammates. Make noise from within.

My issue with Whitney and Bizz is, Whitney was on Barstool like a week ago saying how the PA was coming at them, calling them liars. Whitney comes back with the fact they were both on the PA and former players and they know Bab’s is a bad guy and they wouldn’t say it if it wasn’t true….when they broke the freakin news, they admitted they weren’t sure it was true. They said IF it was true, it’s more Bab’s BS!

These aren’t the two guys to go to with an issue like this. Sure they took down Babcock but they also made the Jackets organization look stupid from top to bottom publicly. If I’m running an organization, I wouldn’t want my players on their show at this point.

- SuperSchennBros

You and tweedle Dee need to shut up already, you both look extremely foolish
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Sep 20 @ 11:24 AM ET
[quote=Dkos]
"Please do not win the President Trophy! it is a curse 🤬" was the memo.
Dave21Brown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 12.09.2018

Sep 20 @ 11:26 AM ET
You and tweedle Dee need to shut up already, you both look extremely foolish
- ClaudeFather

You have a special way with words.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 20 @ 11:26 AM ET
You and tweedle Dee need to shut up already, you both look extremely foolish
- ClaudeFather


Oh, you’re joking, right? Tell me again, how you decipher this whole situation. Did you figure it out on your own because it was so easy to put together or did you hear it on a podcast?
Dave21Brown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 12.09.2018

Sep 20 @ 11:29 AM ET
Oh, you’re joking, right? Tell me again, how you decipher this whole situation. Did you figure it out on your own because it was so easy to put together or did you hear it on a podcast?
- SuperSchennBros

Honestly, it's a fruitless effort because no one but those involved will know the true facts. I think it's more fun to speculate when Tortorella will be terminated because he's outlasted his welcome and isn't required any longer. Once the Flyers collect enough young talent through the draft, he'll be gone is my opinion.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 20 @ 11:32 AM ET
Honestly, it's a fruitless effort because no one but those involved will know the true facts. I think it's more fun to speculate when Tortorella will be terminated because he's outlasted his welcome and isn't required any longer. Once the Flyers collect enough young talent through the draft he'll be gone is my opinion.
- Dave21Brown


Claudefather has been banging the “I’m right” drum for two full days, when it’s impossible to be right without all and confirmed information. A guy as smart as him should know this but it’s pretty much gone over his head the past 48 hours.

As for Torts, I agree. Hang on to him until we’re good again.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 20 @ 11:38 AM ET
i think tyson has an excellent shot to make the team out of camp, pushing allison to 13th forward. what we saw last year, he brings more to the top 9 than allison does. especially if frost in the 3c. if not, only a matter of time until allison gets hurt and tyson takes his spot.

agree with brink and elliot. think they will be call ups depending on injuries throughout the yea. same with andrae.

- Peter Richards

I kind of like how the Flyers younger defenseman are shaping up. York of course is leading the way and I'm hoping for good development of this NHL game this year. Andrae will be playing in the NHL this year, most likely after the deadline once Staal, Seeler and Walker are moved. Ginning might also see NHL time this year after the deadline. Attard hopefully will demonstrate good development with another full AHL season under this belt. Ethan Samson is showing great promise for a 6th round pick, may turn out to be a steal. Then you have Bonk who will probably not be ready for a couple of seasons, and finally this is a make or break year for Zamula.

Having a good stream of younger defenseman coming up gives Breier the flexibility to move on from Risto and Sanhiem when the right deal comes along. I think it's no secret that the Flyers want to move out from under Sanhiem's contract, and after this season Risto will have decent trade value also.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 20 @ 11:40 AM ET
Claudefather has been banging the “I’m right” drum for two full days, when it’s impossible to be right without all and confirmed information. A guy as smart as him should know this but it’s pretty much gone over his head the past 48 hours.

As for Torts, I agree. Hang on to him until we’re good again.

- SuperSchennBros

I think in a lot of ways Torts has changed with the times, I am really rooting for him to win another cup with this team.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 20 @ 11:41 AM ET
Claudefather has been banging the “I’m right” drum for two full days, when it’s impossible to be right without all and confirmed information. A guy as smart as him should know this but it’s pretty much gone over his head the past 48 hours.

As for Torts, I agree. Hang on to him until we’re good again.

- SuperSchennBros


How do you interpret Babcock resigning as the investigation was announced? Even before, with the reports and the coaches history, what did you think? No. None of us were there an and know the whole story. Why it’s hysterical so some are saying didn’t bother this person.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 20 @ 11:43 AM ET
I kind of like how the Flyers younger defenseman are shaping up. York of course is leading the way and I'm hoping for good development of this NHL game this year. Andrae will be playing in the NHL this year, most likely after the deadline once Staal, Seeler and Walker are moved. Ginning might also see NHL time this year after the deadline. Attard hopefully will demonstrate good development with another full AHL season under this belt. Ethan Samson is showing great promise for a 6th round pick, may turn out to be a steal. Then you have Bonk who will probably not be ready for a couple of seasons, and finally this is a make or break year for Zamula.

Having a good stream of younger defenseman coming up gives Breier the flexibility to move on from Risto and Sanhiem when the right deal comes along. I think it's no secret that the Flyers want to move out from under Sanhiem's contract, and after this season Risto will have decent trade value also.

- jd250


Grans, ginning and attard are still works in progress imo. Andrae I think will become a second pair guy. But agree he won’t be up until later in the year.

The d is what needs the biggest overhaul. Hope there are some good prospects to draft this year.

Should’ve traded seeler last year imo. Chuck put the price tag too high. But if he staal and walker are traded would be a good start. Cheap bets always out there for fill ins if needed.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 20 @ 11:47 AM ET
How do you interpret Babcock resigning as the investigation was announced? Even before, with the reports and the coaches history, what did you think? No. None of us were there an and know the whole story. Why it’s hysterical so some are saying didn’t bother this person.
- Peter Richards

Babcock is more than likely guilty. This has never been my argument. It sounded innocent until it didn’t. My issue is the involvement of spitting chiclets.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 20 @ 11:48 AM ET
Foerster has not been penciled in. Nor is there is a spot in the top 9 with his name on it. He may be the front runner and the player most likely to earn a spot but he'll have to earn it with his play. Many thought that York was penciled in last season.
- MJL

He didnt say he was penciled in, what he said was the deck was not stacked against him. Responding to your earlier post saying it was.

York played is way off the roster. So there is that no?
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Sep 20 @ 11:51 AM ET
Let's be fair... Biz didn't drop that bomb to get more attention... he's already got more than he can handle from SC (maybe the most popular hockey media thing going on right now), socials and TNT.

If you follow SC, it's pretty clear that they are just really pro-player on all fronts, but especially when it comes to player treatment from coaches. They've been banging the Babs is a POS drum for years.

- Tomahawk


I’m not saying Biz did this to get attention. The way it’s blown up has resulted in him getting attention. I don’t think he minds it. Several people I know that never talk hockey are asking me about the whole thing. Not making a judgment here. Just saying that Biz will never have more fame than he does today.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 20 @ 11:55 AM ET
I kind of like how the Flyers younger defenseman are shaping up. York of course is leading the way and I'm hoping for good development of this NHL game this year. Andrae will be playing in the NHL this year, most likely after the deadline once Staal, Seeler and Walker are moved. Ginning might also see NHL time this year after the deadline. Attard hopefully will demonstrate good development with another full AHL season under this belt. Ethan Samson is showing great promise for a 6th round pick, may turn out to be a steal. Then you have Bonk who will probably not be ready for a couple of seasons, and finally this is a make or break year for Zamula.

Having a good stream of younger defenseman coming up gives Breier the flexibility to move on from Risto and Sanhiem when the right deal comes along. I think it's no secret that the Flyers want to move out from under Sanhiem's contract, and after this season Risto will have decent trade value also.

- jd250

this is beyond laughable. I will play along and say ok they trade those three. You really think that the flyers will in turn promote 3 LHV players for those spots?

What will happen is they will acquire a D or two in said trades to fill those spots. They will not trade all 3 anyway is my take. Staal getting moved will be entirety up to him; they will like what he brings and say he i smore valuable to keep than mid rd pic. Seeler is cheap and they will look to extend him to another cheap deal. 2 years 1.1 million per.

Fact is they messed up again not having a path clear for zamula attard and ginning to earn a spot on the the blueline.

What team is taking on Risto for the next 3/4 years at that salary for a bottom pair players with zero playoff experience? Risto will have decent trade value lol. Also add to the fact they like his game and think he can help going forward.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 20 @ 11:56 AM ET
I think in a lot of ways Torts has changed with the times, I am really rooting for him to win another cup with this team.
- jd250

how so?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 20 @ 11:56 AM ET
I’m not saying Biz did this to get attention. The way it’s blown up has resulted in him getting attention. I don’t think he minds it. Several people I know that never talk hockey are asking me about the whole thing. Not making a judgment here. Just saying that Biz will never have more fame than he does today.
- Minnyhock

Absolutely
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 20 @ 12:00 PM ET
I think in a lot of ways Torts has changed with the times, I am really rooting for him to win another cup with this team.
- jd250



Torts will be long retired when this team is ready to win a cup.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 20 @ 12:01 PM ET
You and tweedle Dee need to shut up already, you both look extremely foolish
- ClaudeFather


The only person who looks foolish is you with your repeated juvenile comments. It's time for you to grow up and stop acting like a child.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 20 @ 12:02 PM ET
It’s funny. I was actually showing photos of my nieces and nephews to a coworker on my first break just this morning. I thought nothing of it until just now.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 20 @ 12:04 PM ET
I think in a lot of ways Torts has changed with the times, I am really rooting for him to win another cup with this team.
- jd250


In what ways specifically?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 20 @ 12:12 PM ET
Torts will be long retired when this team is ready to win a cup.
- MBFlyerfan

senior advisor.

Will he be able to promote one of his assistants to head coach is what i wonder.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 20 @ 12:20 PM ET
Honestly, it's a fruitless effort because no one but those involved will know the true facts. I think it's more fun to speculate when Tortorella will be terminated because he's outlasted his welcome and isn't required any longer. Once the Flyers collect enough young talent through the draft, he'll be gone is my opinion.
- Dave21Brown


The sooner Tortorella is gone, the better.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 20 @ 12:22 PM ET
The sooner Tortorella is gone, the better.
- MJL

lets say you are the GM right now. You can pick your own coach. Who would you replace him with that is available.

Now everyone knows you wont respond as you never ever put yourself out there like that.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 20 @ 12:23 PM ET
The sooner Tortorella is gone, the better.
- MJL

Jackets don’t have a coach to run training camp. Maybe we should share the experience.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 20 @ 12:24 PM ET
Jackets don’t have a coach to run training camp. Maybe we should share the experience.
- SuperSchennBros



What happened to Pascal Vincent?
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