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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 7 @ 4:33 PM ET
They won’t take me on account of my cock and balls
- black_francis


They probably won't even notice.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC
Joined: 01.10.2015

Sep 7 @ 4:36 PM ET
They probably won't even notice.
- Glak18


It’s true, I’m hung like a bumblebee
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Sep 7 @ 4:38 PM ET
This is an anonymous website. How I look is neither here nor there for me. Calling me Corky is fine. Nobody in here can say they’ve seen me fly off the handle and I understand the reference. However intentionally and racially attacking me is not okay. Black character names. Talking to me with black slang such as “homie don’t play that” or “you dig” as if I play into a stereotype. Outright saying I remind him of the first black clown, than cowardly denying you’re being racist is beyond ridiculous. He’s a sociopath safe in his own home to say whatever he wants.

This aside, I’m also being called stupid over petty past differences like which era had more or the strongest duos in hockey. If you differ, that’s fine but it’s how you come across.

Before I went to bed last night I had an epiphany. Phillywhiteout last night out of nowhere made this grand standing point that I should be careful about what I say and who I say it to because he’s some sort of CEO of a major company. First that’s the most stupid thing I’ve ever heard in my life that he would claim this. Second, this board is a fantasy would to most of these people. Most of the characters we come cross here aren’t real.

- SuperSchennBros


No doubt the racial stuff is really disturbing.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 7 @ 4:39 PM ET
I played a lot of nhl 08 am I qualified to post?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 7 @ 4:39 PM ET
Frost deal is good gives him time to prove he’s not useless
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 7 @ 4:41 PM ET
This is an anonymous website. How I look is neither here nor there for me. Calling me Corky is fine. Nobody in here can say they’ve seen me fly off the handle and I understand the reference. However intentionally and racially attacking me is not okay. Black character names. Talking to me with black slang such as “homie don’t play that” or “you dig” as if I play into a stereotype. Outright saying I remind him of the first black clown, than cowardly denying you’re being racist is beyond ridiculous. He’s a sociopath safe in his own home to say whatever he wants.

This aside, I’m also being called stupid over petty past differences like which era had more or the strongest duos in hockey. If you differ, that’s fine but it’s how you come across.

Before I went to bed last night I had an epiphany. Phillywhiteout last night out of nowhere made this grand standing point that I should be careful about what I say and who I say it to because he’s some sort of CEO of a major company. First that’s the most stupid thing I’ve ever heard in my life that he would claim this. Second, this message board is a fantasy to most of these people. Most of the characters we come cross here aren’t real.

- SuperSchennBros

The characters are 2Real
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 7 @ 4:44 PM ET
You should try out for the new PWHL
- Glak18

The greatest trick the troll ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 7 @ 4:44 PM ET
Maybe, but I still think there’s a level of understanding of some aspects of the sport that you only get by playing the game. Of course I only played club hockey up through the early 80s so my knowledge is more in line with Tort’s view of hockey. After that I played mostly low level men’s league. It was a free for all. No hockey knowledge needed.
- Dkos


There isn't anybody who knows everything. Knowledgeable people have different insights from different experiences. Knowledge is collected in different ways. When your best bullet is "you never played the game". Well you're just full of crap. Someone with a truly greater knowledge, whether in a broad perspective or a narrow one. Wouldn't do that. They'd respond and point out why something is not correct. The resident trolls can't do that and it frustrates them that they can't do that against someone they don't like. I'm civil as long as someone is to me. When they're not, then they reap what they sow. I can metaphorically "throw hands" with the best of them. There are trolls who have trolled me for years. Some have been confronted and they withered weakly. Others I just continue to ignore for obvious reasons. They don't exist to me.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 7 @ 4:45 PM ET
wayne the whiner is out in full force.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 7 @ 4:46 PM ET
There isn't anybody who knows everything. Knowledgeable people have different insights from different experiences. Knowledge is collected in different ways. When your best bullet is "you never played the game". Well you're just full of crap. Someone with a truly greater knowledge, whether in a broad perspective or a narrow one. Wouldn't do that. They'd respond and point out why something is not correct. The resident trolls can't do that and it frustrates them that they can't do that against someone they don't like. I'm civil as long as someone is to me. When they're not, then they reap what they sow. I can metaphorically "throw hands" with the best of them. There are trolls who have trolled me for years. Some have been confronted and they withered weakly. Others I just continue to ignore for obvious reasons. They don't exist to me.
- MJL

The greatest trick the troll ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 7 @ 4:47 PM ET
wayne the whiner is out in full force.
- hello it's me 2050

Who?
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC
Joined: 01.10.2015

Sep 7 @ 4:48 PM ET
There isn't anybody who knows everything. Knowledgeable people have different insights from different experiences. Knowledge is collected in different ways. When your best bullet is "you never played the game". Well you're just full of crap. Someone with a truly greater knowledge, whether in a broad perspective or a narrow one. Wouldn't do that. They'd respond and point out why something is not correct. The resident trolls can't do that and it frustrates them that they can't do that against someone they don't like. I'm civil as long as someone is to me. When they're not, then they reap what they sow. I can metaphorically "throw hands" with the best of them. There are trolls who have trolled me for years. Some have been confronted and they withered weakly. Others I just continue to ignore for obvious reasons. They don't exist to me.
- MJL


Are you telling me you don’t pop out of the woodworks every time JD250 posts? To harp on him about something?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 7 @ 4:49 PM ET
The greatest trick the troll ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
- hello it's me 2050

Knowledgeable people know who the trolls are you don’t need to be a troll to figure it out
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 7 @ 4:51 PM ET
Are you telling me you don’t pop out of the woodworks every time JD250 posts? To harp on him about something?
- black_francis

Everyone knows he’s been a resident troll for years. When he disappears, he’s been banned
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC
Joined: 01.10.2015

Sep 7 @ 4:54 PM ET
Everyone knows he’s been a resident troll for years. When he disappears, he’s been banned
- 2Real


Is that why Jsaq left?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 7 @ 4:56 PM ET
no problem as i already stated my opinion. not sure exactly what else you meant by that first sentence. and i didn't state what you said in those pm's did i.

what's your issue?

- Peter Richards



I stated it. my PM to you said, "what is your Franking problem?" I only remember it was because you were attacking me and I had no idea why.

It was sent back in Feb. Unfortunately I have no PM in my sent folder before 2022 so I have no idea what I sent you
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 7 @ 4:56 PM ET
No doubt the racial stuff is really disturbing.
- Dkos

Well, the weird only come out on the internet and those who aren’t aware of their weird are the most dangerous ones.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 7 @ 5:01 PM ET
Is that why Jsaq left?
- black_francis



one of many reasons.

Reading through this is cracking me up. Troll #1 getting called out by Troll #1a is truly an exercise in lack of self awareness.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 7 @ 5:04 PM ET
Is that why Jsaq left?
- black_francis

No he left cause he got tired of us not because of 1 person
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 7 @ 5:04 PM ET
Exactly: a rebuild doesn't mean dump every vet at the first chance. It means everyone is available for the right return but there's also no rush to trade top players in their primes just for the sake of assets. See if you can gain leverage and, when the time is right, deal from strength.

Have to be honest here: If Torts hadn't been publicly critical of Hayes and DeAngelo -- and made it obvious to everyone that he wanted them gone at all costs -- the Flyers might have gotten at least a little more back in return. Sanheim's contract term made a deal tough anyway, but Torts ripping on him so publicly and seemingly prioritizing him as another player who'd be gone if he had his druthers, certainly didn't help the Flyers' chances of trying to make a trade from anything but a position of weakness.

Sometimes, Torts' candor is a double-edged sword. Moving forward, while he shouldn't -- and almost certainly won't -- totally avoid scathing critiques when he believes they're merited, he should also consider the factor of trying not to tie the GM's hands. Just my opinion.

- bmeltzer

I have NOT been a Torts supporter but I ask this question seriously: Was his open distrust of Frost part of the reason this reported deal looks good? Said another way, we blame him for diminishing trade value on Hayes and DeAngelo (rightfully so). Should we praise him here for helping this contract come in reasonably?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 7 @ 5:07 PM ET
I have NOT been a Torts supporter but I ask this question seriously: Was his open distrust of Frost part of the reason this reported deal looks good? Said another way, we blame him for diminishing trade value on Hayes and DeAngelo (rightfully so). Should we praise him here for helping this contract come in reasonably?
- coffee junkie

I think torts is just flushing the toilet. We’re going to suck so he wants people that won’t coast through the suck
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 7 @ 5:10 PM ET
I have NOT been a Torts supporter but I ask this question seriously: Was his open distrust of Frost part of the reason this reported deal looks good? Said another way, we blame him for diminishing trade value on Hayes and DeAngelo (rightfully so). Should we praise him here for helping this contract come in reasonably?
- coffee junkie


I don't feel as though Tortorella had any influence on this contract.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 7 @ 5:11 PM ET
Are you telling me you don’t pop out of the woodworks every time JD250 posts? To harp on him about something?
- black_francis


As you’ve noticed, I get along with MJL and enjoy his point of view. This doesn’t mean I support his borderline harassment of jd250. However, they both don’t seem to call each other names and both seem fine with arguing with each other day in and day out. Sometimes I think both sides enjoy it. It’s hard for me to pass judgement on MJL getting on jd250’s case because of how out of touch he is with this team. Jd250 keeps setting him up and MJL keeps knocking him down. Even a punching bag’s job is to be punched…
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 7 @ 5:16 PM ET
I don't feel as though Tortorella had any influence on this contract.
- MJL

Selection bias?
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 7 @ 5:17 PM ET
I think torts is just flushing the toilet. We’re going to suck so he wants people that won’t coast through the suck
- 2Real

Is Frost a coaster? Does he need to be ‘flushed’?
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