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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 5 @ 8:46 AM ET
Oh, here we go again. You are exhausting. Everyone is childish that has the audacity to challenge you on anything. Get over yourself already. How many hockey teams have you played for? How many Flyers games have you attended? Snore!
You blatantly said you have no concerns about Michkov coming over when the time comes and were even smug about it. Stand on that hill...no backing down now!

- Phillywhiteout


No, I have no issue with anyone challenging me. You took a minor change in phrasing and tried to make something out of it. That is what is childish.

Tell me how saying at this point in time, with the time frame being three years, that I have no concerns at the moment. Is a prognostication?

Please attach your resume to every post you make so we know your qualifications. Again, more immaturity. Not to mention stupidity.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 5 @ 8:47 AM ET
No, I have no issue with anyone challenging me. You took a minor change in phrasing and tried to make something out of it. That is what is childish.

Tell me how saying at this point in time, with the time frame being three years, that I have no concerns at the moment. Is a prognostication?

Please attach your resume to every post you make so we know your qualifications. Again, more immaturity. Not to mention stupidity.

- MJL
I'm currently playing the world's smallest violin for you.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 5 @ 8:48 AM ET
The facts are:

1. There is no agreement, legal or friendly between the NHL and KHL right now
2. There is no body that has authority to enforce any rules of contract
3. Russian thugs tied to Putin own and drive the team that Michkov is signed to
4. Michkov's Dad was murdered, supposedly for trying to get Michkov out of his contract, not that it would matter because they would not let Michkov leave anyway just like they did not let Fedotov leave
5. Anyone that crosses Putin get their plane downed, or fall down a flight of stairs, or are found face down in a pond, look up Suspicious_deaths_of_Russian_businesspeople in 2022-2023
6. Nothing will change as long as our compromised president and the thugs in Ukraine keep this war going so they can profit

I'm not making this up, this is as real as it gets! The fact is, you should be very concerned about Michkov ever playing for the Flyers!

- jd250


Most of that has been present in Russia for decades with Putin in control. List for me all the top Russian hockey players that have been prevented from coming to the NHL since Putin has been in power? After you do that, I'll list all of the Russian players that have come over while he is in power.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 5 @ 8:51 AM ET
I'm currently playing the world's smallest violin for you.
- Phillywhiteout


Again, tell me how saying at this point in time, with the time frame being three years, that I have no concerns at the moment. Is a prognostication?

You like to make comments about others reading comprehension ability. Here we see what yours is.


Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 5 @ 8:54 AM ET
Again, tell me how saying at this point in time, with the time frame being three years, that I have no concerns at the moment. Is a prognostication?

You like to make comments about others reading comprehension ability. Here we see what yours is.

- MJL
You were smug about you having no doubt that he would be in a Flyers uniform when his KHL contract expires. That's a prognostication that he will be a Flyer in 3 years. I'd like to carry on, but we have an escaped convict around here and traffic is a mess. Just stand by your words though. No wavering...own it!!
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Sep 5 @ 9:01 AM ET
The facts are:

1. There is no agreement, legal or friendly between the NHL and KHL right now
2. There is no body that has authority to enforce any rules of contract
3. Russian thugs tied to Putin own and drive the team that Michkov is signed to
4. Michkov's Dad was murdered, supposedly for trying to get Michkov out of his contract, not that it would matter because they would not let Michkov leave anyway just like they did not let Fedotov leave
5. Anyone that crosses Putin get their plane downed, or fall down a flight of stairs, or are found face down in a pond, look up Suspicious_deaths_of_Russian_businesspeople in 2022-2023
6. Nothing will change as long as our compromised president and the thugs in Ukraine keep this war going so they can profit

I'm not making this up, this is as real as it gets! The fact is, you should be very concerned about Michkov ever playing for the Flyers!

- jd250



Unfortunately a lot of truth. The saving grace is he wasn’t supposed to come for 3 years anyways. The best thing for the player now is to get him back to the Sochi team where he actually see the ice in all situations and is away from his current team.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 5 @ 9:01 AM ET
You were smug about you having no doubt that he would be in a Flyers uniform when his KHL contract expires. That's a prognostication that he will be a Flyer in 3 years. I'd like to carry on, but we have an escaped convict around here and traffic is a mess. Just stand by your words though. No wavering...own it!!
- Phillywhiteout



I was just on the phone with my Xerox rep whose office is about a mile from Longwood Gardens. He said the whole area is a madhouse with cops and helicopters. I'm guessing that is your area too?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 5 @ 9:03 AM ET
Wait!


There is quite a difference between labeling him as an "old school" coach and what Bill wrote, that he has no hockey background. What is most likely? Another in a long line of mischaracterizations of what is said by a hockey analyst in the media by you.

- MJL

You can be an old school coach regardless of your hockey experience. Its mindset, not skill after all! Again, I am only reporting what Russ stated, I have no idea how accurate or inaccurate it is, though Russ has done a ton of international scouting in his day and has good contacts in Russia. Both can be true in the end, the coach has no playing experience but has an old school mentality! So please stop embarrassing yourself!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 5 @ 9:03 AM ET
You were smug about you having no doubt that he would be in a Flyers uniform when his KHL contract expires. That's a prognostication that he will be a Flyer in 3 years. I'd like to carry on, but we have an escaped convict around here and traffic is a mess. Just stand by your words though. No wavering...own it!!
- Phillywhiteout


Stating I have no concerns at the time about Michkov is not smug. It is simply pointing out my current state of mind. It is not predicting anything. For someone who likes to call out other people's reading comprehension ability. You should look in the mirror and work on yours first. Your lack or reading comprehension ability is put on display daily. This is just another example.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 5 @ 9:05 AM ET
You can be an old school coach regardless of your hockey experience. Its mindset, not skill after all! Again, I am only reporting what Russ stated, I have no idea how accurate or inaccurate it is, though Russ has done a ton of international scouting in his day and has good contacts in Russia. Both can be true in the end, the coach has no playing experience but has an old school mentality! So please stop embarrassing yourself!
- jd250


You can't be an old school coach without having a long history of coaching!


You're not reporting what Cohen stated. You're reporting what you think was said. Which are most times completely inaccurate. Speaking of history, there is a long line of that with you.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 5 @ 9:05 AM ET
Most of that has been present in Russia for decades with Putin in control. List for me all the top Russian hockey players that have been prevented from coming to the NHL since Putin has been in power? After you do that, I'll list all of the Russian players that have come over while he is in power.
- MJL

It only matters since 2021 ... when Russian advanced on Ukraine and the NHL killed their agreement with the KHL.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 5 @ 9:06 AM ET
You can't be an old school coach without having a long history of coaching!


You're not reporting what Cohen stated. You're reporting what you think was said. Which are most times completely inaccurate. Speaking of history, there is a long line of that with you.

- MJL

Hey, there is an easy way to settle this, go listen for yourself. Locked on Flyers for Monday 9/4.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 5 @ 9:08 AM ET
It only matters since 2021 ... when Russian advanced on Ukraine and the NHL killed their agreement with the KHL.
- jd250


Okay, list all the Russian players since 2021 that have been prevented from coming over to the NHL? Will there be any Russian rookies in the NHL this upcoming season?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 5 @ 9:10 AM ET
Hey, there is an easy way to settle this, go listen for yourself. Locked on Flyers for Monday 9/4.
- jd250


I don't care what Russ Cohen has to say. I'm not in need of being manipulated daily or have to parrot what others say in order to form my opinions. I think for myself.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 5 @ 9:15 AM ET
Okay, list all the Russian players since 2021 that have been prevented from coming over to the NHL? Will there be any Russian rookies in the NHL this upcoming season?
- MJL

The answer is there is not one active NHL player that has come over from Russian since 2021.

https://www.quanthockey.c...players-career-stats.html
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 5 @ 9:17 AM ET
I don't care what Russ Cohen has to say. I'm not in need of being manipulated daily or have to parrot what others say in order to form my opinions. I think for myself.
- MJL

You can be very irrational at times. Russ Cohen is a good source of information, just like Bill is a good source of information. I am sure Bill will concur with this statement. I don't think there is anything wrong with bringing in relevant opinions from different credible sources.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 5 @ 9:19 AM ET
The answer is there is not one active NHL player that has come over from Russian since 2021.

https://www.quanthockey.c...players-career-stats.html

- jd250


This took me all of about 5 seconds to find. From your list


https://www.quanthockey.c.../profile.php?player=67014
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 5 @ 9:21 AM ET
You can be very irrational at times. Russ Cohen is a good source of information, just like Bill is a good source of information. I am sure Bill will concur with this statement. I don't think there is anything wrong with bringing in relevant opinions from different credible sources.
- jd250


There is nothing wrong with listening to good sources to be informed. There is a lot wrong with repeatedly misinterpreting what they say as well as having what you read or heard that day, change your position daily. That is being easily manipulated.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 5 @ 9:26 AM ET
There is nothing wrong with listening to good sources to be informed. There is a lot wrong with repeatedly misinterpreting what they say as well as having what you read or heard that day, change your position daily. That is being easily manipulated.
- MJL

I don't have a position on the Russian coach, nor why Michkov was scratched. There is nothing to change or misinterpret here. Just providing more information on top of what Bill stated already. You are once again just picking an argument for the sake of picking an argument.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 5 @ 9:29 AM ET
This took me all of about 5 seconds to find. From your list


https://www.quanthockey.c.../profile.php?player=67014

- MJL

Wow, you found one player that has played a grand total of 2 games in the NHL since 2021! Well, this totally wipes out all the facts doesn't it, looks like Michkov is free and clear to navigate!

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 5 @ 9:37 AM ET
I don't have a position on the Russian coach, nor why Michkov was scratched. There is nothing to change or misinterpret here. Just providing more information on top of what Bill stated already. You are once again just picking an argument for the sake of picking an argument.
- jd250


What were you doing when you showed up with " MJL will change his tune"? You apparently haven't learned about what happens when you poke a bear with a stick.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 5 @ 9:39 AM ET
Wow, you found one player that has played a grand total of 2 games in the NHL since 2021! Well, this totally wipes out all the facts doesn't it, looks like Michkov is free and clear
- jd250


It totally wipes out the fact that you said not a single player has come over since 2021 from Russia. I bet there is more.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Sep 5 @ 9:45 AM ET
Flyers always try to outthink themselves - should have taken Leonard!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 5 @ 9:49 AM ET
Flyers always try to outthink themselves - should have taken Leonard!
- Bayareaflyer


Extremely premature.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 5 @ 9:55 AM ET
Extremely premature.
- MJL

I bet you hear that a lot. All joking aside, you're 100% correct, these kids will take years to determine who should've been taken when.
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