So bad. The Yankees outside Cole and Judge are a joke. You think I hate Chris Drury, pfft. The hate I have for Brian Cashman cannot be described.
- tomburton99

i'm shocked by how into horse racing you are per your xweets

https://twitter.com/jfres...&t=uyemCTfXPLjxebCnYBfx6Q

I think expecting Aecliptic to have a reasonable conversation about Chytil is an impossibility, it's personal
- jimbro83

Its not hatred its called being realistic. Those guys earned their minutes and earned their PP time by being the best in the league. What has Chytil earned? Has he earned a 2nd line center spot with the Rangers? He had a whopping 45 points last year? He had 1 month of solid hockey that made you think he was gonna turn the corner and really fight for it. Then he went back to normal.

January… 8g 4a in 12gms, awesome!
The rest of the season… 6g, 10a, 32 games, what happened? And dont say minutes, he was averaging more playing time in the rest of the season than he was in January.

Its not hatred its called being realistic. Those guys earned their minutes and earned their PP time by being the best in the league. What has Chytil earned? Has he earned a 2nd line center spot with the Rangers? He had a whopping 45 points last year? He had 1 month of solid hockey that made you think he was gonna turn the corner and really fight for it. Then he went back to normal.

January… 8g 4a in 12gms, awesome!
The rest of the season… 6g, 10a, 32 games, what happened? And dont say minutes, he was averaging more playing time in the rest of the season than he was in January.
- aecliptic

You are 100 percent wrong. GG wasnt playing anyone but the first PP unit for more than the last 25 seconds. Who was he going to replace on the first PP unit? The first unit was on fire but when they cooled off GG showed no imagination in changing anything up. Chytil is the third line center on this team to a fault, Zib is one Trock is two, GG was never going to give Chytil more minutes over either of them. For a 3rd line center 45 minutes isnt bad.

You are 100 percent wrong. GG wasnt playing anyone but the first PP unit for more than the last 25 seconds. Who was he going to replace on the first PP unit? The first unit was on fire but when they cooled off GG showed no imagination in changing anything up. Chytil is the third line center on this team to a fault, Zib is one Trock is two, GG was never going to give Chytil more minutes over either of them. For a 3rd line center 45 minutes isnt bad.
- Brukie

I think you mean points, lol.

Im not saying 45 points is bad at all for a 3rd line center, I just dont see what everyone else does in where his ceiling is.

You can go back and see Ive written in Chytil as a 2C but only under the situation that Trochek is the RW and taking the faceoffs. Unfortunately we dont have the depth at C to pull that off.

Honestly Im more concerned about how Lav addresses the transition game and play through the neutral zone than how they set up the lines.

I think you mean points, lol.

Im not saying 45 points is bad at all for a 3rd line center, I just dont see what everyone else does in where his ceiling is.

You can go back and see Ive written in Chytil as a 2C but only under the situation that Trochek is the RW and taking the faceoffs. Unfortunately we dont have the depth at C to pull that off.

Honestly Im more concerned about how Lav addresses the transition game and play through the neutral zone than how they set up the lines.
- aecliptic

Anything is better than nothing. GG had no system for players to fall back on when their free-for-all game didn't work.

Anything is better than nothing. GG had no system for players to fall back on when their free-for-all game didn't work.
- mames11

Very much hope they show something. Something to give me hope the system works. Not just Panarin being awesome
- picklerick

I don’t buy it. They keep saying the system is more simple. They can’t keep the puck out of the net no matter who’s on the ice though.
- picklerick

I get that. It’s just that the system should be apparent at some point and this is just a tire fire. We’re not the only team with this situation. Everyone’s in preseason mode
- picklerick

I knew at one point i'd dig around to find this but this was from the 3rd preseason game in 2021. 3 games with GG. It was obvious to me then that there was no freakin system

I think you mean points, lol.

Im not saying 45 points is bad at all for a 3rd line center, I just dont see what everyone else does in where his ceiling is.

You can go back and see Ive written in Chytil as a 2C but only under the situation that Trochek is the RW and taking the faceoffs. Unfortunately we dont have the depth at C to pull that off.

Honestly Im more concerned about how Lav addresses the transition game and play through the neutral zone than how they set up the lines.
- aecliptic

Oct 5 @ 5:21 PM ET

Weighing in on Chytil here and ***caveating heavily that i am by no means saying that he is going to become half the player i am about to mention**** but:

Mark Schiefele is an example of a center who took a few years to figure it out completely.

Through his age 21 season, Scheifele played 156 games, scored 84 points (.54 ppg) and avg'd 43% on faceoffs. not an awful stat line but nothing to write home about

Chytil has played 186 games, has 71 points (.38 ppg), and averages 40% on faceoffs.

All of this is to say there is hope and this is probably the make or break season in my opinion for him to put it all together. He's shown flashes so who knows, maybe he'll be a fixture in the league for a while or maybe he'll be forgotten
- picklerick



Hes got the size, but I dont think he has the brain's to take the next step. When youre a young kid like him, through the growing pains, you have to take the intiative and be good at the things you have control over. Thats positioning, awareness, defense, faceoffs... these are all things that can be worked on all the time. However it just doesnt seem to be there.
-aecliptic

this too things never change

i'm shocked by how into horse racing you are per your xweets
- picklerick

Love it. Love to gamble on it. Love to follow it. I'm an 80 year old trapped in 33 year old person.

I knew at one point i'd dig around to find this but this was from the 3rd preseason game in 2021. 3 games with GG. It was obvious to me then that there was no freakin system
- picklerick

It wont take long to find all the post game blogs where I post about how bad the system is.

Oct 5 @ 5:21 PM ET

Weighing in on Chytil here and ***caveating heavily that i am by no means saying that he is going to become half the player i am about to mention**** but:

Mark Schiefele is an example of a center who took a few years to figure it out completely.

Through his age 21 season, Scheifele played 156 games, scored 84 points (.54 ppg) and avg'd 43% on faceoffs. not an awful stat line but nothing to write home about

Chytil has played 186 games, has 71 points (.38 ppg), and averages 40% on faceoffs.

All of this is to say there is hope and this is probably the make or break season in my opinion for him to put it all together. He's shown flashes so who knows, maybe he'll be a fixture in the league for a while or maybe he'll be forgotten
- picklerick



Hes got the size, but I dont think he has the brain's to take the next step. When youre a young kid like him, through the growing pains, you have to take the intiative and be good at the things you have control over. Thats positioning, awareness, defense, faceoffs... these are all things that can be worked on all the time. However it just doesnt seem to be there.
-aecliptic

this too things never change
- picklerick

Ok, but what… about awareness, positioning, defense and faceoffs has changed?

2C means hes gonna be out there against better players. A second line of Panarin and Chytil terrifies me, absolute nightmare matchup wise. Id be putting my best players out there against them every time they step on the ice.

Ok, but what… about awareness, positioning, defense and faceoffs has changed?

2C means hes gonna be out there against better players. A second line of Panarin and Chytil terrifies me, absolute nightmare matchup wise. Id be putting my best players out there against them every time they step on the ice.
- aecliptic

Sink or swim time for chytil. Give him the minutes and linemates. Idk where else you want him to play

Any particular question from the off season list I posted you would like me to cover next?

Sink or swim time for chytil. Give him the minutes and linemates. Idk where else you want him to play
- picklerick

Its not like I dont want the kid to succeed. Id love for him to figure it out the same way Hertl did eventually. When he first got into the league he wasnt a big offensive guy, granted he was always a good defensively, but still.

I just dont see the other parts to his game, other than his speed, that makes me think that he can pull it together to become a bonafide 2C.

Sink or swim time for chytil. Give him the minutes and linemates. Idk where else you want him to play
- picklerick

I'll just leave this here...

I'll just leave this here...


- tomburton99

How much is that finishing number impacted by the 76 posts trocheck hit

I'll just leave this here...


- tomburton99

Any particular question from the off season list I posted you would like me to cover next?
- airjan23

i'm lazy, where is the full list?

How much is that finishing number impacted by the 76 posts trocheck hit
- picklerick

Probably a decent amount.

I'll just leave this here...


- tomburton99

Ok fine, then lets compare a very over looked number in those charts.

Competition%: Chytil 24%, Trochek 71%

Lets say those numbers were reverse and Chytil had to play against the same quality of competition that Trochek does. Do you really think Chytil’s numbers look like that?

Ok fine, then lets compare a very over looked number in those charts.

Competition%: Chytil 24%, Trochek 71%

Lets say those numbers were reverse and Chytil had to play against the same quality of competition that Trochek does. Do you really think Chytil’s numbers look like that?
- aecliptic

Half the picture. Not even. Look at TOI and teammates

Ok fine, then lets compare a very over looked number in those charts.

Competition%: Chytil 24%, Trochek 71%

Lets say those numbers were reverse and Chytil had to play against the same quality of competition that Trochek does. Do you really think Chytil’s numbers look like that?
- aecliptic

Probably not. But also Chytil didn't get a lot of time with on PP1 or with one of Kreider/Panarin either. Plus Chytil didn't multiple dump offensive zone penalites. So that's why all of that is important.

Probably not. But also Chytil didn't get a lot of time with on PP1 or with one of Kreider/Panarin either. Plus Chytil didn't multiple dump offensive zone penalites. So that's why all of that is important.
- tomburton99

My critique of him is not his offensive game, its everything else. Its what he doesnt do in other aspects of the game which is why I feel that way about him.

My critique of him is not his offensive game, its everything else. Its what he doesnt do in other aspects of the game which is why I feel that way about him.
- aecliptic

Right. He's not good defensively. Neither is Trocheck. Trochek has the edge in faceoffs. Chytil takes less dumb penalties. Give and take for both.

My critique of him is not his offensive game, its everything else. Its what he doesnt do in other aspects of the game which is why I feel that way about him.
- aecliptic

Trocheck is worse in those areas