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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 7 @ 7:54 AM ET
bet he doesn't get more than 6.
- TheSabresTaco

Take it, just think he gets another mill because of Hockey inflation
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:09 AM ET
Take it, just think he gets another mill because of Hockey inflation
- Buff36


He's also really (frank)ing good and had a very impressive rookie season.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 7 @ 8:34 AM ET
He's also really (frank)ing good and had a very impressive rookie season.
- kingcong39

Very True, could probably ask for higher than 7m if he wanted.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 7 @ 8:42 AM ET
He's also really (frank)ing good and had a very impressive rookie season.
- kingcong39


He is good but I don't think he accomplished more than Dahlin when he signed his bridge.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 7 @ 8:44 AM ET
He is good but I don't think he accomplished more than Dahlin when he signed his bridge.
- TheSabresTaco



It's 2023, 7 is the new 6 million
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 7 @ 8:47 AM ET
Danny B says Columbus needed celery retention for Provorov. Not that I don't believe him, as the trade indicates.. but they are a poopty team with 12 million available and most of a set roster. I wonder if they were concerned for year two of Provy, they have a ton of ELCs coming off.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 7 @ 8:47 AM ET
It's 2023, 7 is the new 6 million
- washedup20

Dahlin had a 3 year track record. Power has 1. I just don't see it gang
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 7 @ 8:50 AM ET
Dahlin had a 3 year track record. Power has 1. I just don't see it gang
- TheSabresTaco


I agree, the narrative will be to sign players early due to Tage...until the next Skinner comes along then it will change.


Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 7 @ 8:58 AM ET
Dahlin had a 3 year track record. Power has 1. I just don't see it gang
- TheSabresTaco

Paying for what he can become, not what he has done.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:05 AM ET
I don’t get it. LIV won the war …. The PGA lost
- Sabretooth9


The PGA Tour got bent over here. There's no question about it, but I also don't think it's a matter of LIV "winning the war" either. LIV needed this merger as much as the PGA Tour did. The PGA Tour was on a path to bankrupting itself with these new "elevated events" with jacked up purses, and needed a huge influx of cash. At the same time, LIV couldn't get TV deals on a network that people would even accidentally tune into, and so that wasn't sustainable either. Their ratings on the CW in the US were absolutely atrocious. According to Alan Shipnuck (whose interview with Phil Mickelson) started this whole thing, LIV stopped reporting them because they were so bad. Sure, this PIF fund could subsidize it, probably for quite a while, but it doesn't make sense to do so. At the end of the day, this is just like the AFL-NFL merger. The AFL was a legitimate force, but at the same time it was never going to overtake the NFL. It simply made sense for both sides merge, keep the AFL teams, just like LIV is going to keep some of their events, and even get rid of some personalities a lot of folks didn't like (Trump in the AFL; Greg Norman is not expected to be involved in the new entity). Meanwhile, the Saudis get the foot in the door they always wanted from Day one.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 7 @ 9:16 AM ET
The PGA Tour got bent over here. There's no question about it, but I also don't think it's a matter of LIV "winning the war" either. LIV needed this merger as much as the PGA Tour did. The PGA Tour was on a path to bankrupting itself with these new "elevated events" with jacked up purses, and needed a huge influx of cash. At the same time, LIV couldn't get TV deals on a network that people would even accidentally tune into, and so that wasn't sustainable either. Their ratings on the CW in the US were absolutely atrocious. According to Alan Shipnuck (whose interview with Phil Mickelson) started this whole thing, LIV stopped reporting them because they were so bad. Sure, this PIF fund could subsidize it, probably for quite a while, but it doesn't make sense to do so. At the end of the day, this is just like the AFL-NFL merger. The AFL was a legitimate force, but at the same time it was never going to overtake the NFL. It simply made sense for both sides merge, keep the AFL teams, just like LIV is going to keep some of their events, and even get rid of some personalities a lot of folks didn't like (Trump in the AFL; Greg Norman is not expected to be involved in the new entity). Meanwhile, the Saudis get the foot in the door they always wanted from Day one.
- buffalofan19


The real losers are the players who showed loyalty, turning down 9 figure offers.

Tiger turned down $800,000,000.00

Rory turned down $300,000,000.00

No room for loyalty in todays business world.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 7 @ 9:16 AM ET
Danny B says Columbus needed celery retention for Provorov. Not that I don't believe him, as the trade indicates.. but they are a poopty team with 12 million available and most of a set roster. I wonder if they were concerned for year two of Provy, they have a ton of ELCs coming off.
- TheSabresTaco


Internal cap perhaps
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 7 @ 9:18 AM ET
Paying for what he can become, not what he has done.
- Buff36


Did McDavid and Eichel influence the NHL so much early on that paying for the future became the foundation for ELC players?
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 7 @ 9:23 AM ET
Danny B says Columbus needed celery retention for Provorov. Not that I don't believe him, as the trade indicates.. but they are a poopty team with 12 million available and most of a set roster. I wonder if they were concerned for year two of Provy, they have a ton of ELCs coming off.
- TheSabresTaco



That 30% most likely moved the pick from 2nd to 1st round.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 7 @ 9:24 AM ET
Did McDavid and Eichel influence the NHL so much early on that paying for the future became the foundation for ELC players?
- washedup20

Good ? They could have
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 7 @ 9:29 AM ET
The PGA Tour got bent over here. There's no question about it, but I also don't think it's a matter of LIV "winning the war" either. LIV needed this merger as much as the PGA Tour did. The PGA Tour was on a path to bankrupting itself with these new "elevated events" with jacked up purses, and needed a huge influx of cash. At the same time, LIV couldn't get TV deals on a network that people would even accidentally tune into, and so that wasn't sustainable either. Their ratings on the CW in the US were absolutely atrocious. According to Alan Shipnuck (whose interview with Phil Mickelson) started this whole thing, LIV stopped reporting them because they were so bad. Sure, this PIF fund could subsidize it, probably for quite a while, but it doesn't make sense to do so. At the end of the day, this is just like the AFL-NFL merger. The AFL was a legitimate force, but at the same time it was never going to overtake the NFL. It simply made sense for both sides merge, keep the AFL teams, just like LIV is going to keep some of their events, and even get rid of some personalities a lot of folks didn't like (Trump in the AFL; Greg Norman is not expected to be involved in the new entity). Meanwhile, the Saudis get the foot in the door they always wanted from Day one.
- buffalofan19


I'm confused here. Are you talking about the NFL/AFL merger in the late 60's? If Trump had anything to do with that, that is news to me. Trump had involvement in the USFL of the 80's. That league had nothing on the NFL and didn't amount to poop. Just like the slop LIV league that was nose diving into the ground and taking the defectors with it. (frank)in slop league.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 7 @ 9:31 AM ET
I'm confused here. Are you talking about the NFL/AFL merger in the late 60's? If Trump had anything to do with that, that is news to me. Trump had involvement in the USFL of the 80's. That league had nothing on the NFL and didn't amount to poop. Just like the slop LIV league that was nose diving into the ground and taking the defectors with it. (frank)in slop league.
- Hatboro_Swords



Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 7 @ 9:32 AM ET

- washedup20

What a sleezeball
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:35 AM ET
The real losers are the players who showed loyalty, turning down 9 figure offers.

Tiger turned down $800,000,000.00

Rory turned down $300,000,000.00

No room for loyalty in todays business world.

- washedup20


At the same time, though, they're still the sport's biggest names, and they need to keep those names happy. I'm guessing the newly infused PIF money will make them whole somehow.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:38 AM ET
I'm confused here. Are you talking about the NFL/AFL merger in the late 60's? If Trump had anything to do with that, that is news to me. Trump had involvement in the USFL of the 80's. That league had nothing on the NFL and didn't amount to poop. Just like the slop LIV league that was nose diving into the ground and taking the defectors with it. (frank)in slop league.
- Hatboro_Swords


Yeah, you're right. I got those two confused on the Trump part. Still, if the PGA Tour wasn't the loser here, the PIF fund wouldn't be anywhere near this deal. The Tour absolutely needs that cash.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 7 @ 9:41 AM ET
At the same time, though, they're still the sport's biggest names, and they need to keep those names happy. I'm guessing the newly infused PIF money will make them whole.
- buffalofan19



What are Rory's and Tigers options if they aren't made whole?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 7 @ 9:42 AM ET
Scott Billeck on WGR once again saying UPL, 1st and Krebs for Hellebuyck. Or Levi straight up
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:42 AM ET
Internal cap perhaps
- SDSabre


The Columbus GM indicated yesterday that they're not doing making moves, and have a goal to take a big step in improvement for next season.

That could be a big part of their request to retain salary on Provorov.

>>> Adding Provorov adds experience to the #CBJ    blue line, but they could still add another in free agency.

Kekalainen: “We’re not done yet. We want to make sure we take a real big step going into next year and this is step one that takes us in that direction.”
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 7 @ 9:43 AM ET
Yeah, you're right. I got those two confused on the Trump part. Still, if the PGA Tour wasn't the loser here, the PIF fund wouldn't be anywhere near this deal. The Tour absolutely needs that cash.
- buffalofan19

Those golfers that defected are going to have to pay back the Saudis whatever they didn’t win. It was a cash advance. That’s what I heard. They’ll get poisoned if they don’t.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:43 AM ET
"The PGA with the most embarrassing holdout since Levon Bell from the Steelers"

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