What are your expectations for a development year?
- washedup20

Vibes

Pretty good till McKenna suggested Erik Haula.

Oh man, I miss the Haula sweeps
- TheSabresTaco

You don’t want Haula Famer?

Lol.
- IonSabres

I only go off the rails when you old white burlap sacks have already derailed the thread with conservative posturing.

You answered your own question there. IMO he isn't worth 2.5 Million either. We are molding our team as a young fast team, Okie does not fit the mold.

I am very sure we can sign a player in FA to get me 11 goals, 17 helpers and a -7 for less then 2.5 Million, And don't give me the old leadership quality BS. There are plenty of good leaders on this team, Tuch, Dahlin, Cozens.....

For me it just does not make a lot of sense resigning Okie to any deal in Buffalo. I would of rather they signed Tyson Jost to a 3 year x 2.5. he is younger and can get you the same production from the 4th line.
- hehateme

I see the 2.5 as a thank you form the organization. Guys been everything you want in player off the ice and around the rink. Even if he wasn't the most productive guy while here. He's been a major part of the turn around we are witnessing. + the money means very little when you have the cap space we have.

Those top guys wanted him back apparently, if you listen to his presser.

Tyson Jost isn't providing the defensive acumen and ability Okposo has.

I'm fairly certain he's not here for his pure production.
- TheSabresTaco

Why is this so hard for people to grasp?

Mine is very strong, especially for an old man.
- IonSabres

Hahaha saw this after my response

You probably pee sitting down, that’s why your stream is so powerful

It’s okay, I ate a piece of pizza while pooping today

Lol, just imagine a pregame presentation of stripping the C from Kyle at Center ice.
That would be just wonderful. They wont take the C from him, no friggin way.
- IonSabres

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip0BIe_nE_4


the funniest part of Conway/Korman skits is how Harvey could never keep a straight face. he tries so hard not to laugh

I see the 2.5 as a thank you form the organization. Guys been everything you want in player off the ice and around the rink. Even if he wasn't the most productive guy while here. He's been a major part of the turn around we are witnessing. + the money means very little when you have the cap space we have.

Those top guys wanted him back apparently, if you listen to his presser.

Tyson Jost isn't providing the defensive acumen and ability Okposo has.
- DirtyDan

What do you consider the $42 million already paid to him?

After a glance at just FA:

Goodrow
Foligno
J Staal
Compher
- washedup20

2 of those guys are centers. Foligno is under contract and Compher is going to command some good $$$ and wont want to play where Okposo is.

What do you consider the $42 million already paid to him?
- washedup20

I don't

Why is this so hard for people to grasp?
- DirtyDan

Well think we all know he's not here for his production!

Well think we all know he's not here for his production!
- Buff36

There is quite a # of ppl mentioning production.

You included big guy

There is quite a # of ppl mentioning production.

You included big guy
- DirtyDan

It would've been exciting to see Adams go after a vet Dman who can help with leadership and moved on from Okposo, there are too many prospects knocking on the door and those prospects are winning.

Adams has been consistent from the beginning, this is the summer I was hoping for change, maybe Gerbe was right and they won't even try until next season.

I disagree with your stance on him, and that's ok. What player(s) can you assure me will come in here and perform his specific role, on and off the ice, better than him? Genuine curiosity.
- TheSabresTaco

Thanks for asking.
We want two different things to occur next season.

Where we differ is that I don't consider his defensive game to be that good, nor his service on the PK to make a difference. They absolutely sucked at defensive hockey last year until the last 3 weeks of the season...where was his so called leadership?
The PK was horrible, where was his leadership effective?
Sure, the Corsi Stats are good...waste of 14 minutes a night. (I guess there is "value" there to some).

So those who support Okposo believe he is a difference maker defensively, yet the stats that count don't show it resulted in anything.
(Yes, it is a team game, but he and Girgs were big parts of the defensive acumen, and the team sucked at it).

I would rather have a different 4th line than a traditional 4th line...
I want to roll 4 lines...and develop that style and those young players now, not when they really should be competing for playoff season success.

So, I would rather play Rousek, Kulich and Savoie (because he should be here next season) rather than bring Kyle back to deliver another crappy defensive production.

I like the person in Kyle, but do not value at all what he brings, especially this year when they should be going for it with young guys to get the learnings largely dealt with for those three so they can begin to contribute more significantly.

This plan does in fact take a position away, like it or not, it does.

We see it differently, like you said it's fine.

You want to make a difference on the D side for the 4th line, go sign David Campf...solid defensively and very good at FO on the PK. Let Rousek learn from him. Not some washed up nice Dad.

I only go off the rails when you old white burlap sacks have already derailed the thread with conservative posturing.
- Jet Jaguar BD

Ageism.
Proud of you young druggies.

Hahaha saw this after my response

You probably pee sitting down, that’s why your stream is so powerful

It’s okay, I ate a piece of pizza while pooping today
- Jet Jaguar BD

Lol.
Na, getting up from sitting takes alot of effort.
Now if they ever come up with a lift lazy-boy toilet ... watchout..I'll be first inline.

What do you consider the $42 million already paid to him?
- washedup20

TY

There is quite a # of ppl mentioning production.

You included big guy
- DirtyDan

Yes, like was said we know it's not his pure production, think ppl are trying to figure out what it was.

It would've been exciting to see Adams go after a vet Dman who can help with leadership and moved on from Okposo, there are too many prospects knocking on the door and those prospects are winning.

Adams has been consistent from the beginning, this is the summer I was hoping for change, maybe Gerbe was right and they won't even try until next season.
- washedup20

Top prospects beating AHL filled rosters. Its great but it isn't the NHL.

Those guys could takeover Okposo's role but wouldn't be as effective.

There really is no problem with this signing.
1 more year at his role isn't blocking these prospects if they're good enough.
The pay is irrelevant.
The "vibes" continue.

Top prospects beating AHL filled rosters. Its great but it isn't the NHL.

Those guys could takeover Okposo's role but wouldn't be as effective.

There really is no problem with this signing.
1 more year at his role isn't blocking these prospects if they're good enough.
The pay is irrelevant.
The "vibes" continue.
- DirtyDan

Or they could be more effective with there better skating, and better 200ft games

Or they could be more effective with there better skating, and better 200ft games
- Buff36

Not only does this signing not plug up the lineup for the long term. It adds depth. PlayerX gets hurt you can plug one of these young kids in.

injuries are inevitable

Ageism.
Proud of you young druggies.
- IonSabres

Ok Boomer.

It would've been exciting to see Adams go after a vet Dman who can help with leadership and moved on from Okposo, there are too many prospects knocking on the door and those prospects are winning.

Adams has been consistent from the beginning, this is the summer I was hoping for change, maybe Gerbe was right and they won't even try until next season.
- washedup20

Its May 25.

Jjp reichel connection would be cool
- TheSabresTaco

That's my unrealistic dream

Why is this so hard for people to grasp?
- DirtyDan

I don't know but I'm about done defending it.

BTW Komarov is not eligible for the AHL next year unless the KHL loaned him to the Q