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wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 25 @ 2:01 PM ET
I don't want the 'hawks to sign anyone.

Bring in the Czech kid that is best buds with Connor Bedard, Columbus' Stashu Svozil,
Give Columbus a pick lower than the #69th 3rd rd (like a 2nd rounder) they spent on him.

Then Connor has a roommate.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

May 25 @ 2:02 PM ET
I would love to see the Hawks sign Domi and Bertuzzi. Both have toughness without the goon stipulation plus both have some offense. We need to get rid of some defensemen and start bringing these kids up to see how they adapt to the NHL. I think Guttman is a keeper and I hope they take a long look at Savoi.
- bjphawkfan



Max is a bit of a snap show once in a while not unlike his dad. I like the idea of having him but only until the hawks can actually make playoffs and have the potential to make a run. At that point a guy who sometimes can't keep his composure is not a good guy to have.
Hawkeynation
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.29.2020

May 25 @ 2:26 PM ET
If he's healthy, why not Max Pacioretty?
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

May 25 @ 2:27 PM ET
If he's healthy, why not Max Pacioretty?
- Hawkeynation



30 font If.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 25 @ 3:15 PM ET
Pronman and Wheeler at the Athletic are answering questions from their beat writers about what could happen at the draft. Lazerus writes in asking about the Hawks moving up from 19. Excerpt below.

The Blackhawks have so many early-round picks over the next three drafts, and now that they have Bedard, they’re more likely to try to package them and move up in the draft. Given the talent at the top of the draft, what do you think the Blackhawks would have to package with the No. 19 pick in order to move into the top 10 or the top 15? And just how much of a difference in talent would they be looking at in that range as opposed to No. 19? In other words, how expensive would it be to move up, and how worthwhile would it be to do so? —Mark Lazerus

Pronman: It all depends on the caliber of player you’re talking about to pick. Getting a player like Reinbacher, Leonard or Dvorsky would be a needle mover, but I don’t see 19 plus a second being enough to do that. If you’re not getting a true premium guy or a guy you have top eight or so on your team’s personal list, I don’t see the value in doing so. You’re going to get a player you are very passionate about at 19.

Wheeler: I won’t be surprised if the Blackhawks try to parlay some of their second-round draft capital in this class to move up, whether that’s with No. 19 to climb higher into the first round, or to make a play on another first-round pick or another high second. Given the core group of talent you’d likely be gaining access to by moving up from No. 19 even a few spots, though, I do think you’re looking at more than No. 19 and the earliest of their four seconds. We know they have a pick in the 30s, a pick in the 40s, and two picks in the 50s as things stand right now. Does No. 19 plus the pick in the 30s and one of the picks in the 50s get you into the top 15? Maybe? Is that a worthwhile play? I’d need to know who they’d be after.

- boilermaker100


To me KD has done a great job in accumulating draft picks, i just don't see him turning around and giving it away. Does he trust his scouting department? If he does then he will be perfectly content in staying where he is at 19. Most everyone was so worried about drafting the Russian at 3,4,5, and here we are now with the 1st overall, KD is playing with house money winning the draft lottery, i say let the chips fall and take the best available player since we need so many.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

May 25 @ 3:24 PM ET
I'm with Wiz, I wouldn't sign anyone, it isn't time for a veteran and term.

Guess you have to do something though to hit the floor.

Domi and Bertuzzi is as good as i've heard.

Remember when we yearned for cap space, now we have too much............
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 25 @ 3:35 PM ET
Not so sure about that. It looks like they have about $6.5M in cap space, but they have only 9 forwards under contract and have Dellandrea to sign.
- MartiniMan


What is Dellandrea going to get? $1.5 max? Glendening? another $1 mil? Then you sign Domi and there is your 12 forwards.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 25 @ 3:38 PM ET
If he's healthy, why not Max Pacioretty?
- Hawkeynation


2 achilles heel surgeries with one period of play? Unless you sign him to just put on LTIR, that is a disaster waiting to happen.


chuckdahammer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 11.01.2016

May 25 @ 3:40 PM ET
Sign players only in the 3 to 5 million dollar range. Maybe get a cap casualty or two and be done. Keep the picks. Remember after few years how hard it was to find a second line center after Toews. Richards was the best of the bunch but Hawks went through Handzus and others. Bedard will be your number one center for years to come but don't leave this draft with your future number two center as well. At 19, there is good picks for number two center behind Bedard. Hawks system has plenty of third and mostly fourth line players. Address the top six in this draft
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

May 25 @ 4:00 PM ET
Sign players only in the 3 to 5 million dollar range. Maybe get a cap casualty or two and be done. Keep the picks. Remember after few years how hard it was to find a second line center after Toews. Richards was the best of the bunch but Hawks went through Handzus and others. Bedard will be your number one center for years to come but don't leave this draft with your future number two center as well. At 19, there is good picks for number two center behind Bedard. Hawks system has plenty of third and mostly fourth line players. Address the top six in this draft
- chuckdahammer

Nazar is supposed to be a top 6 Center.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 25 @ 4:30 PM ET
I'm with Wiz, I wouldn't sign anyone, it isn't time for a veteran and term.

Guess you have to do something though to hit the floor.

Domi and Bertuzzi is as good as i've heard.

Remember when we yearned for cap space, now we have too much............

- vabeachbear


Let's see where we are at after the draft, I'm thinking we will have a few more bad contracts on the roster
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 25 @ 4:32 PM ET
Sign players only in the 3 to 5 million dollar range. Maybe get a cap casualty or two and be done. Keep the picks. Remember after few years how hard it was to find a second line center after Toews. Richards was the best of the bunch but Hawks went through Handzus and others. Bedard will be your number one center for years to come but don't leave this draft with your future number two center as well. At 19, there is good picks for number two center behind Bedard. Hawks system has plenty of third and mostly fourth line players. Address the top six in this draft
- chuckdahammer


Remember this is a process, it's not like we won't be drafting in the top 10 next year and probably the year after that
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

May 25 @ 4:42 PM ET
Max is a bit of a snap show once in a while not unlike his dad. I like the idea of having him but only until the hawks can actually make playoffs and have the potential to make a run. At that point a guy who sometimes can't keep his composure is not a good guy to have.
- 6628

That's probably 5 years away anyway, so his contract shouldn't be longer than that for sure
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

May 25 @ 5:17 PM ET
No player can deter an opponent from taking a run at a star player. He can only try to go after him after the fact.
- paulr



Based on this board's new love child, Domi...I am in the minority stating I don't want him back.

1. He is going to likely want more than 3 years. NO
2. He is going to want to get paid and the last time he got paid...he got complacent and found himself bouncing around until he was fortunate enough to get MASSIVE minutes here, play with Kane, and cash in.
3. I don't think the interest will be mutual as I know he said he loved it here....but did he love skating with Kane and being here OR did he TRULY love being here? Team is still rebuilding. Guy wasn't anything yet in the league...guessing he wants to win rather than go through a rebuild.

Just don't see him being a fit here any longer. He did well, and we can remember him that way...but I will bet anyone he comes back here....that outcome will NOT be anywhere close to what we experienced in the 50 or so games he played here.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

May 25 @ 5:19 PM ET
This is just me thinking out loud, what playoff team is going to have the cash to sign him?
- BetweenTheDots



IF, and that's a huge IF, he decides to keep betting on himself and taking these smaller term, smaller AAV deals is he going to do it on a playoff calliber team OR for a rebuilding team? He is going to want term and AAV after having a very good year. He will want to cash in. Let him be another team's problem in 2-3 years......just not here.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

May 25 @ 5:27 PM ET
After accounting for the cap hits of Bedard, Soderblom, probably Kurashev and possibly C Jones the Hawks will have 17 players on the roster and about 47.5M toward the cap floor. Add 2 D on ELCs for 2M. Then still need 4 contracts totaling 12 or 13M to reach the cap floor, either obtained via cap dump trades or free agent signings.
- boilermaker100



Some team(s) are going to retool as new GMs, Coaches come on board and tinker to make trades, or sign UFAs. Happens every summer. Saw it here last summer. Saw it in Calgary. I will be SHOCKED if the Leafs keep the same group together. Somebody is getting kicked off that island and if not.....then Shanahan is even dumber than I thought which would be a whole new level of stupidity.

Avs need to fill a hole with their captain out.
STL will likely be active
Minnesota?
Tampa
Toronto
Carolina needs scoring....finally caught up to them...shocker.
Islanders
Rangers
Oilers
Flames

Boston is interesting....They need to move a large money deal if some the older guys want to come back. Do they move on from Taylor Hall? Are the hawks on his NO list of 10 teams? 6 AAV for 2 years seems like a win for Davidson.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 25 @ 5:40 PM ET
I doubt the Hawks are gonna find takers below #19 to move them to the player they are truly interested in...the issue is they are not sure where he goes off the board, so it is difficult to focus on a team unless you know you guy is there.

I heard this and you can take it for what it is worth, that they are certain the Ryan Leonard could be chosen 6 to 16. (I have him entrenched at #10) They have talked internally at length but feel there are no avenues open that are worth talking about it now.

The board IS a big potpouri and teams are not like minded in their ideas, with some preferring home run type players over Leonard types. I am not gonna attempt to liken him to the guy tearing up the playoffs after a trade.

I KNOW if they stay they get a great chance to add a good prospect and I also know if someone disappointed after #19 might be willing to take some seconds to trade out.

I think there still are nice gets worth trading into the b bottom of round one.

And I keep thinking they may even sell off more vets before it is all over.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

May 25 @ 5:44 PM ET
Some team(s) are going to retool as new GMs, Coaches come on board and tinker to make trades, or sign UFAs. Happens every summer. Saw it here last summer. Saw it in Calgary. I will be SHOCKED if the Leafs keep the same group together. Somebody is getting kicked off that island and if not.....then Shanahan is even dumber than I thought which would be a whole new level of stupidity.

Avs need to fill a hole with their captain out.
STL will likely be active
Minnesota?
Tampa
Toronto
Carolina needs scoring....finally caught up to them...shocker.
Islanders
Rangers
Oilers
Flames

Boston is interesting....They need to move a large money deal if some the older guys want to come back. Do they move on from Taylor Hall? Are the hawks on his NO list of 10 teams? 6 AAV for 2 years seems like a win for Davidson.

- SteveRain


You're right about teams retooling. Then there are RFA's Debrincat, Dubois, Meier. Will they be qualified by their teams or be traded? A few contending teams may be taking on a boatload of salary, making other players cap casualties. Things will begin to get interesting in 2 to 3 weeks after the Cup is awarded.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 25 @ 5:46 PM ET
Who to sign
Is it a matter of priorities!
Is it a matter of greatest impact what moves are made- and when - upon the possible outcome of individual players (namely Bedard) and the team’s success for next calendar season?

I pondered those thoughts for a couple days and the conclusion is the same as the immediate reaction once we heard we had won the lottery


The greatest imoact from the 2023 Enyty Draft is more likely going to be from the draft chiices cumulative in the first two rounds….and really doubt a major trade or free agent is forthcoming because how the heck could we pull that off - like who would we trade?

Our GM is no dumb cookie. He won’t rush into a trade or signing just to have a fair to mediocre wing on Befard’s line….why waste asset(s) when there is a better move at a later date

The cost certainly doesn’t need to be prohibitive as far as who winds up playing with Bedard. The Entry Drsft is like panning for gold especially in a deep 2023 draft. Do your best to extract at least two difference makers, preferably two top line quality forwards with the first being Bedard

We have plenty of draft choices not only this season but beyond but only a limited amount of really good tier I prospects we could hope to extract. So explore moving up from #19. Best player available but if it is a really close call take another center

In round two BECAUSE I am not sold enough on having a Maket typed man or stud goaltender prospects already drafted, do not hesitate to ho after a player at those positions

And BTW wiz idea to acquire Bedard’s Czech friend sounds a worthwhile pursuit
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

May 25 @ 5:47 PM ET
You're right about teams retooling. Then there are RFA's Debrincat, Dubois, Meier. Will they be qualified by their teams or be traded? A few contending teams may be taking on a boatload of salary, making other players cap casualties. Things will begin to get interesting in 2 to 3 weeks after the Cup is awarded.
- boilermaker100



Agreed.....Davidson will be active. Just need to stay the course and give Bedard an option or 2 to play with.

Good problems to have. TONS and TONS of cap space.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

May 25 @ 5:48 PM ET
I doubt the Hawks are gonna find takers below #19 to move them to the player they are truly interested in...the issue is they are not sure where he goes off the board, so it is difficult to focus on a team unless you know you guy is there.

I heard this and you can take it for what it is worth, that they are certain the Ryan Leonard could be chosen 6 to 16. (I have him entrenched at #10) They have talked internally at length but feel there are no avenues open that are worth talking about it now.

The board IS a big potpouri and teams are not like minded in their ideas, with some preferring home run type players over Leonard types. I am not gonna attempt to liken him to the guy tearing up the playoffs after a trade.

I KNOW if they stay they get a great chance to add a good prospect and I also know if someone disappointed after #19 might be willing to take some seconds to trade out.

I think there still are nice gets worth trading into the b bottom of round one.

And I keep thinking they may even sell off more vets before it is all over.

- wiz1901


I know a D man a team can have in a second once we get over the cap floor by 4.4 million........
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

May 25 @ 5:51 PM ET
Who to sign
Is it a matter of priorities!
Is it a matter of greatest impact what moves are made- and when - upon the possible outcome of individual players (namely Bedard) and the team’s success for next calendar season?

I pondered those thoughts for a couple days and the conclusion is the same as the immediate reaction once we heard we had won the lottery


The greatest imoact from the 2023 Enyty Draft is more likely going to be from the draft chiices cumulative in the first two rounds….and really doubt a major trade or free agent is forthcoming because how the heck could we pull that off - like who would we trade?

Our GM is no dumb cookie. He won’t rush into a trade or signing just to have a fair to mediocre wing on Befard’s line….why waste asset(s) when there is a better move at a later date

The cost certainly doesn’t need to be prohibitive as far as who winds up playing with Bedard. The Entry Drsft is like panning for gold especially in a deep 2023 draft. Do your best to extract at least two difference makers, preferably two top line quality forwards with the first being Bedard

We have plenty of draft choices not only this season but beyond but only a limited amount of really good tier I prospects we could hope to extract. So explore moving up from #19. Best player available but if it is a really close call take another center

In round two BECAUSE I am not sold enough on having a Maket typed man or stud goaltender prospects already drafted, do not hesitate to ho after a player at those positions

And BTW wiz idea to acquire Bedard’s Czech friend sounds a worthwhile pursuit

- jhawk59


Hope you're good.

Likely also they will pool lower round picks together and consolidate them to move up a higher pick. Quality over quantity with so many picks in the next few drafts still to come.

2 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds in 2024
2 1sts, 2 2nds, 1 3rd in 2025

That's before they sell off any more veterans, which they likely will do this summer and/or in Feb/March at the deadline.

Wouldn't be shocked to see them go after Kampf and give him more minutes and balloon his value. Like they did Lafferty.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 25 @ 5:54 PM ET
NHL and the players union negotiating for an increase greater than $ 1 mil.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nh...for-next-season-1.1964461

So all this hand rubbing about getting draft assets for cap dumps could be all for not.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

May 25 @ 5:56 PM ET
NHL and the players union negotiating for an increase greater than $ 1 mil.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nh...for-next-season-1.1964461

So all this hand rubbing about getting draft assets for cap dumps could be all for not.

- LAHawk



Depends on the increase, right? Look at all the teams and limited cap space when you factor in the number of guys signed....and some of them wanting some large deals.

There will be deals to be made.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 25 @ 6:05 PM ET
I'm with Wiz, I wouldn't sign anyone, it isn't time for a veteran and term.

Guess you have to do something though to hit the floor.

Domi and Bertuzzi is as good as i've heard.

Remember when we yearned for cap space, now we have too much............

- vabeachbear


No Kane, Toews, AA, Lafferty or Domi. The roster as is will be demonstrably worse than the terrible team they had last yr. It's an AHL roster in the NHL and it will be a developmental yr for Bedard.

Who would be on his line? Who would be in the top 6? ........

I'm in agreement with those who say no 5 yr deals but I'm ok with a 3 yr deal for a Domi type. It will probably be a minimum 2/3 yrs before we see any forwards from last yrs draft, or even Dach, up for a look in the NHL so a 3 yr deal for a Domi type(s) isn't prohibitive at all.
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