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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 31 @ 2:55 PM ET
Agreed and the #1 objective on Davidson's shopping list this offseason should be finding this kid, Bedard, 2 quality linemates to play with. If Reichel is it, I can stomach it....but 2 proven NHL scorers would be ideal....and no, 1 is not Max Domi.
- SteveRain


You kind of have to be careful about that too don't you? For instance, Kubalik can score, but he's not exactly someone I want playing with Bedard. Heck, Raddysh and AA both scored 20 this year. I think you try to find someone that can complement his play and also help him out as he gets going in the league.

Maybe you have to trade for someone? Actually, I didn't hate the idea of Tavares (I think Elbows brought this up?) despite the fact he skates kind of like Handzus. Has been in a lot of situations in the league and can still produce.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

May 31 @ 3:13 PM ET
You kind of have to be careful about that too don't you? For instance, Kubalik can score, but he's not exactly someone I want playing with Bedard. Heck, Raddysh and AA both scored 20 this year. I think you try to find someone that can complement his play and also help him out as he gets going in the league.

Maybe you have to trade for someone? Actually, I didn't hate the idea of Tavares (I think Elbows brought this up?) despite the fact he skates kind of like Handzus. Has been in a lot of situations in the league and can still produce.

- Chunk


Jordan Staal or ROR for the leadership role?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 31 @ 3:36 PM ET
I see Wood is rated higher, but Honzek looks smoother skater, better stick handler.

One thing for sure, getting a good player at #19.

- vabeachbear


I was aghast when I saw Wood's skating. Kid is simply terrible. Notice on the film he not only doesn't stop and start but takes huge turns and he puts his arm out when he "hits" someone for leverage so he doesn't fall down. His ankles literally bend in!! ........ Maybe a club thinks they can fix him but they are stating 25 yards behind the starting line.

Kid has some hands, size and reach though. Would not surprise me to see him drop a good bit past 20.

I'm a big Honzek guy and think Pronman has him about right and he may go higher than 13. A kid that big, skates that well with his skilled hands and plays PP and PK is a scout's dream. He or But are the best big men in the draft IMO.

Don't think either fall to the Hawks but if they do I'll be doing a happy dance.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 31 @ 3:37 PM ET
You kind of have to be careful about that too don't you? For instance, Kubalik can score, but he's not exactly someone I want playing with Bedard. Heck, Raddysh and AA both scored 20 this year. I think you try to find someone that can complement his play and also help him out as he gets going in the league.

Maybe you have to trade for someone? Actually, I didn't hate the idea of Tavares (I think Elbows brought this up?) despite the fact he skates kind of like Handzus. Has been in a lot of situations in the league and can still produce.

- Chunk


In-house, I think that Raddysh is the best linemate for Bedard. Raddysh reminds me of a Cliff Koroll type. Up and down winger, will score 15-20 goals, responsible defensively, and cheap. The UFA left wingers I would target are Van Rymsdyck, Tatar, or Jason Zucker
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

May 31 @ 3:43 PM ET
I was aghast when I saw Wood's skating. Kid is simply terrible. Notice on the film he not only doesn't stop and start but takes huge turns and he puts his arm out when he "hits" someone for leverage so he doesn't fall down. His ankles literally bend in!! ........ Maybe a club thinks they can fix him but they are stating 25 yards behind the starting line.

Kid has some hands, size and reach though. Would not surprise me to see him drop a good bit past 20.

I'm a big Honzek guy and think Pronman has him about right and he may go higher than 13. A kid that big, skates that well with his skilled hands and plays PP and PK is a scout's dream. He or But are the best big men in the draft IMO.

Don't think either fall to the Hawks but if they do I'll be doing a happy dance.

- Mr Ricochet


LOL,

I guess i didn't understand your original post. I thought you were saying Wood is a good skater.

I watched the video, and was wondering what they hell you were looking at. I'm in a good mood today so I didn't fire off any poopty response posts back at you.

I can't believe Wood is the 8th prospect.

Listening to Donegahey, I wouldn't be surprised if Wood is off their board.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

May 31 @ 3:47 PM ET
In-house, I think that Raddysh is the best linemate for Bedard. Raddysh reminds me of a Cliff Koroll type. Up and down winger, will score 15-20 goals, responsible defensively, and cheap. The UFA left wingers I would target are Van Rymsdyck, Tatar, or Jason Zucker
- LAHawk


I'm not sure Raddysh is fast enough to play with him. Lets see how they do this year, but I actually thought Katchouk was the best player the last 15 to 20 games.

Its been a while since a younger guy improved and got better after coming up to the Hawks. But I thought Katchouk improved greatly from beginning of the season til the end. (credit to LR?).

He can skate, is big, isn't afraid to throw his weight around. Lets see if he works his ass of this offseason and improves more.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

May 31 @ 3:57 PM ET
Thought the Hawks were signing Lucic and Reeves?

- LAHawk

Maybe they will or won't. But size on the wing is lacking and either one of the players mention would fill that hole in the future imo.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 31 @ 3:58 PM ET
LOL,

I guess i didn't understand your original post. I thought you were saying Wood is a good skater.

I watched the video, and was wondering what they hell you were looking at. I'm in a good mood today so I didn't fire off any poopty response posts back at you.

I can't believe Wood is the 8th prospect.

Listening to Donegahey, I wouldn't be surprised if Wood is off their board.

- vabeachbear


I didn't want to color the commentary, so I stayed silent on my thoughts. As mentioned, Wood is really young with really good hands and size. Guys like Handzus and Hartnell succeeded as poor skaters but I'm not using a 1st rd pick on a guy like that. The vast vast majority with that profile fail at the NHL level.

And yes, if the Hawks are hell bent on skating as a prerequisite to draft a kid Wood will be passed on.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 31 @ 4:48 PM ET
I didn't want to color the commentary, so I stayed silent on my thoughts. As mentioned, Wood is really young with really good hands and size. Guys like Handzus and Hartnell succeeded as poor skaters but I'm not using a 1st rd pick on a guy like that. The vast vast majority with that profile fail at the NHL level.

And yes, if the Hawks are hell bent on skating as a prerequisite to draft a kid Wood will be passed on.

- Mr Ricochet


So I'm rooting for Wood to be drafted prior to pick 19, and maybe a 3rd dlinemen?

Noticed Wiz has changed who the Blackhawks are drafting at 19 and 35 again
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 31 @ 4:57 PM ET
So I'm rooting for Wood to be drafted prior to pick 19, and maybe a 3rd dlinemen?

Noticed Wiz has changed who the Blackhawks are drafting at 19 and 35 again

- BetweenTheDots


Yes, root for a few Dmen to go before #19. The more that go the better the quality of forward should be available at #19.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

May 31 @ 5:06 PM ET
So I'm rooting for Wood to be drafted prior to pick 19, and maybe a 3rd dlinemen?

Noticed Wiz has changed who the Blackhawks are drafting at 19 and 35 again

- BetweenTheDots



Man, I don't know that I'd pass on Oliver Moore for the Swede C, though haven't seen the swede play.

Wiz loves him some Charlie Stramel
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

May 31 @ 5:09 PM ET
Seems more and more, guys are going to American college route.

I guess it makes sense in that you have better control over your own destiny.

if enough do it, maybe the leagues will change their rules about players being able to leave to play in minors.

Leagues give you many more games though. Look out if College Hockey were to add 20 games a season..........
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

May 31 @ 5:13 PM ET
Here's something in the news on a different subject. I also posted it on the Red Wings board where their writer, Jeremy Laura, frequently writes about broadcasting issues.

Jerry Reinsdorf, owner of the Chicago White Sox and Chicago Bulls and co-owner (with Rocky Wirtz, the Blackhawks owner) of the United Center where the Bulls and Hawks play, recently became majority owner of a sports streaming site named the Stadium Network. He acquired Bally's share of Stadium Network for an undisclosed amount possibly due to Bally's financial issues.

I never heard of Stadium Network until today. I read that Reinsdorf was involved in its founding several years ago and held a minority stake until this purchase.

Blackhawks, Bulls and White Sox games are currently televised on NBC Sports Chicago. This broadcasting deal ends in 2024. There is speculation that Reinsdorf may start his own network, or put the games on this Stadium Network, to broadcast the baseball and basketball games. I think maybe he will team up with Wirtz since they have that United Center relationship.

It will be interesting to see how the Blackhawk broadcasts pan out after 2024, especially with Bedard on board. Will they broadcast the games on linear TV or go to a streaming site to make fans pay to watch Bedard?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 31 @ 5:27 PM ET
Here's something in the news on a different subject. I also posted it on the Red Wings board where their writer, Jeremy Laura, frequently writes about broadcasting issues.

Jerry Reinsdorf, owner of the Chicago White Sox and Chicago Bulls and co-owner (with Rocky Wirtz, the Blackhawks owner) of the United Center where the Bulls and Hawks play, recently became majority owner of a sports streaming site named the Stadium Network. He acquired Bally's share of Stadium Network for an undisclosed amount possibly due to Bally's financial issues.

I never heard of Stadium Network until today. I read that Reinsdorf was involved in its founding several years ago and held a minority stake until this purchase.

Blackhawks, Bulls and White Sox games are currently televised on NBC Sports Chicago. This broadcasting deal ends in 2024. There is speculation that Reinsdorf may start his own network to broadcast the baseball and basketball games. I think maybe he will team up with Wirtz since they have that United Center relationship.

It will be interesting to see how the Blackhawk broadcasts pan out after 2024, especially with Bedard on board. Will they broadcast the games on linear TV or go to a streaming site to make fans pay to watch Bedard?

- boilermaker100


Didn't Reinsdorf start Sportsvision with Einhorn. At that time, the refrain was no one is going to pay to watch baseball. That is why Harry Carray went from the White Sox to the Cubs WGN. He said no on will watch sports on tv that they would have to pay for. Sprtsnet eventually became Sports channel and eventually NBC sports chicago which is owned:

NBC Sports Group (25%) Jerry Reinsdorf (25%/25% split between interests in Bulls and White Sox) Rocky Wirtz (25%).

So, Reinsdorf seems to always be ahead of the curve when it comes to monetizing broadcast sports. He probably sees the current cable model as dead, and is going to streaming.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

May 31 @ 5:28 PM ET
You kind of have to be careful about that too don't you? For instance, Kubalik can score, but he's not exactly someone I want playing with Bedard. Heck, Raddysh and AA both scored 20 this year. I think you try to find someone that can complement his play and also help him out as he gets going in the league.

Maybe you have to trade for someone? Actually, I didn't hate the idea of Tavares (I think Elbows brought this up?) despite the fact he skates kind of like Handzus. Has been in a lot of situations in the league and can still produce.

- Chunk



The biggest thing is maximizing Bedard's development. He can't be saddled with also rans like the 2 you mentioned. He needs higher end skill to play with IMO.....as those guys could slot with Reichel as a 2nd line.

Reichel and bedard.....need to maximize their growth. See how Davidson plays this out over the next 6-8 weeks.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 31 @ 5:32 PM ET
Remember when some on the BOD wanted to include Kravtsov in the Kane deal? He just signed with the KHL.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

May 31 @ 5:35 PM ET
Man, I don't know that I'd pass on Oliver Moore for the Swede C, though haven't seen the swede play.

Wiz loves him some Charlie Stramel

- vabeachbear

Oliver Moore would be nice. So would Nate Danielson. You would probably have to move up to select Danielson.

One thing I remember about last year's draft was that KD, took North American skaters with the first 9 of his 11 picks. It's as if he threw a bone to his Euro scouts and picked those other two in the 6th and 7th rounds.

So if it comes down to Moore or Stenberg at 19, who would KD select?




boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

May 31 @ 5:40 PM ET
Didn't Reinsdorf start Sportsvision with Einhorn. At that time, the refrain was no one is going to pay to watch baseball. That is why Harry Carray went from the White Sox to the Cubs WGN. He said no on will watch sports on tv that they would have to pay for. Sprtsnet eventually became Sports channel and eventually NBC sports chicago which is owned:

NBC Sports Group (25%) Jerry Reinsdorf (25%/25% split between interests in Bulls and White Sox) Rocky Wirtz (25%).

So, Reinsdorf seems to always be ahead of the curve when it comes to monetizing broadcast sports. He probably sees the current cable model as dead, and is going to streaming.

- LAHawk


I think you got the history right. Home Hawks games were on Sportsvison too I think, while the away games were free on WGN.

Anyway this Stadium Network is supposedly free at this time. I'll have to check it out. Who knows in a couple of years?
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

May 31 @ 5:44 PM ET
Remember when some on the BOD wanted to include Kravtsov in the Kane deal? He just signed with the KHL.
- LAHawk


A lot of Ranger fans wanted to include Kravtsov and Leschyshyn in the deal to make the cap work. The Rags were able to dump Kravtsov in VAN and waived the other guy and sent him down.
SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

May 31 @ 6:24 PM ET
I think you got the history right. Home Hawks games were on Sportsvison too I think, while the away games were free on WGN.

Anyway this Stadium Network is supposedly free at this time. I'll have to check it out. Who knows in a couple of years?

- boilermaker100


Home games weren't on WGN at all - there was a little teaser dropped out there in the 1982 playoffs where they were on free TV (the season they went to the semis, and lost to the Canucks) -- then poof gone the next year.

Interesting initial comment though - I could see that happening. Especially in light of the interest that this off season is apt to (and already has). That would be getting in ahead of the curve.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 31 @ 8:14 PM ET
1. WHo is playing against the opposing team's top line?
2. How much offense has Jones created vs Murphy in that same time frame?

Numbers can be played with to support any argument.

- SteveRain

Both and the difference is not enough to be paid 5M more.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 31 @ 8:16 PM ET
Yes I would take him it's just my opinion
- Scott1977

Size without speed is not something the Hawks seem interested in. Wood doesn't fit the attributes they have said they are looking to draft.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 31 @ 8:19 PM ET
Jordan Staal or ROR for the leadership role?
- powerenforcer

(frank) no. He was terrible on a rebuilding team in Buffalo in a leadership role. He"lost his love for the game". I don't want him anywhere near this team.

Plus, he is slow AF.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 31 @ 8:24 PM ET
In-house, I think that Raddysh is the best linemate for Bedard. Raddysh reminds me of a Cliff Koroll type. Up and down winger, will score 15-20 goals, responsible defensively, and cheap. The UFA left wingers I would target are Van Rymsdyck, Tatar, or Jason Zucker
- LAHawk

Someone will overpay Zucker after he had his first healthy season in 6 years.

Meh on the other two but whateves on 1 year deals. Wouldn't go any longer for either.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 31 @ 8:30 PM ET
Oliver Moore would be nice. So would Nate Danielson. You would probably have to move up to select Danielson.

One thing I remember about last year's draft was that KD, took North American skaters with the first 9 of his 11 picks. It's as if he threw a bone to his Euro scouts and picked those other two in the 6th and 7th rounds.

So if it comes down to Moore or Stenberg at 19, who would KD select?

- boilermaker100

If Moore is there at 19, Donegahey will bolt to the podium to make that pick.
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