Great point I overlooked. Love to grab Tavares + for future considerations but doubt he waives to come here.
- Revco38

Yes, doubt he waives, but it’s fun to speculate. The trade of Jones for Tavares + would help both teams in my opinion.

Ek reporting that Shanahan is working on a Nylander trade in the absence of a GM. Which means Marner will be traded instead.

Yes, doubt he waives, but it’s fun to speculate. The trade of Jones for Tavares + would help both teams in my opinion.
- Angotti

Doubt if Jones waives either.

Yes, doubt he waives, but it’s fun to speculate. The trade of Jones for Tavares + would help both teams in my opinion.
- Angotti

A year from now IF. IF IF. Two or more kids are playing well on our defense, I would love to get rid of S Jones contract. Despite his big long term haul we really kind of need him until enough of our kids show up and we are convinced that they are the real deal. Sure Korchinski Allen DeMeastro
And Kaiser sound good now but they have to prove it Not merely a few highlights of great promise but need more developmental time

I detest surrendering a first round choice and not thrilled to depart with a second round raft pick as well. If we could trade S Jones to Montreal plus the second round in 2024 or 2025. I.would think about taking Drouin.

Crazy. Maybe but to unload Jones contract even if we pay some of it…..eventually Bedard will get the crazy money from Rocky but please not Jones too

Curious as to what the Ducks would want for Fantilli. #19 and 3 of the 4 2nd rounders?
- Assman22

Just like Vancouver people thinking "what would it take to get Bedard from Chicago?"This falls into the same category.

They aint trading Fantilli, he's a #1 in most other drafts.

Yes, doubt he waives, but it’s fun to speculate. The trade of Jones for Tavares + would help both teams in my opinion.
- Angotti

Except of all the Toronto guys, why would we take Tavares and give Toronto S. Jones?????????????

They better be adding a lot more for that deal.

On one hand, posters are saying they need to surround Bedard with competent players, and we need to get to the cap floor doing so

On the other hand, we need to trade S. Jones................

I love this board

On one hand, posters are saying they need to surround Bedard with competent players, and we need to get to the cap floor doing so

On the other hand, we need to trade S. Jones................

I love this board
- vabeachbear

Well, regardless of what KD does it's going to be wrong, so at least we can pretend to go big here.

Well, regardless of what KD does it's going to be wrong, so at least we can pretend to go big here.
- Chunk

Speaking of doing the wrong thing. Lucic wants to keep playing if KD is interested in signing him.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...l-next-season/c-344635574

The Hawks have $42 million this season, $70 million next year, and $80 million of cap space after that assuming minimal increases in the cap. Maybe Kurashev gets a bump but there is little home grown talent that is going to need large contracts. We all hope Bedrard is in a position to sign an 8 year $15 miilion contract in 4 years but regardless there is alot the Hawks can do to make themselves much more competitive now with plenty of cap space when the propsects start needing long term deals. It will be a dissapointment if the team does not use all of the available cap to either get players or take problem contracts for picks.

Bedard is going to play. There is no reason to rush anyone else next season which builds slow and pushes off the next round of huge contracts another year. Korchinski can play 9 NHL games, go back to junior, play WJC and hopefully have another long Memorial Cup run. Allen I believe can go to Rockford. I don't believe any of the other transformational prospects that have been picked by Davidson have to be promoted.

Washington wants to retool and wants to get out from Kuzntzov and Mantha's salaries. Kuznetzov has 2 years at $8 and Mantha 1 year at $6. Would Washinton dump those two with a significant pick? Damaged goods in the last year of their contracts usually zero in and have decent years.

Vancouver has several contracts that are bothering them. They probably think OEL is a Seabrook type deal that can't be traded. Would they include a sweetener for Davidson to eat $7.3 x 4?

Philadelphia has new management. Hayes has been a big dissapointment. Would they consider dumping his $7 x 3?

DeBrusk is unrestricted after this season and he did ask for a trade last year. Could a couple of stockpiled draft picks be used to get him?

Hathaway, Shattenkirk and Domi are free agents. Could 3 year deals at $3 million entice Hathaway and Shattenkirk? Could $4 million for 5 years get Domi?

Could Richardson get 95 points out of this roster? Can he coach that defense to reduce the goals against from 300 to 230? Increase goals for from 204 to 230?

Mantha Kuznetzov Reichel
DeBrusk Bedard Domi
Hathaway Hayes Kurashev
Johnsson Richardenson Blackwell

Jones Shattenkirk
Murphy OEL
Vlasic Zaisev

Mrazek Soderblom

Still under the cap with a few million to spend. Nodody tied up when Nazar, Korchinski, Allen, Del Mastro, Kaiser and others need bride deals or to be secured long term early.
- stevefrmglencoe

With that defense, you are assured of another lottery pick.

Except of all the Toronto guys, why would we take Tavares and give Toronto S. Jones?????????????

They better be adding a lot more for that deal.
- vabeachbear

Because there is an accountant somewhere in Rockyworld that wants rid of the $67 million the Hawks are committed to if they keep Jones.

Because there is an accountant somewhere in Rockyworld that wants rid of the $67 million the Hawks are committed to if they keep Jones.
- RickJ

Maybe, but they are committed to spending over 60 million per season on salary anyway, so what will they really save right now? Replacing the 25 minutes a game on the blueline will cost money too.

There is some random speculation and chatter on Toronto radio and local bloggers that the Leafs may have interest in Seth Jones. How anyone managed to make this up when there isn’t a GM in place is beyond me but one of Nylander or Marner in return would be something to think about however I’d imagine the Leafs would want Murray taken off their hands as well.
- paulr

Done. No take backsies.

They lack puck moving dmen. Reilly is the only one. Not saying they need Seth Jones but they need more puck support from their d core.
- MjulQvist

And they would still lack one even with Jones.

Unlike others, I think that Jones would be a good #2 with a better supporting cast. Hard to look good on a tanking team, but that’s just me. The Leafs would be better off with a Jones for Tavares trade, but they better add.
- Angotti

This is the same reasoning that Sabres fans used with Risto. We know how well that has worked out for the Sabres.

You can put the blame elsewhere but at the end of the day. Jones has been on the leaderboard for the green jacket the last two seasons for reason. He sucks in his own zone.

The Hawks have $42 million this season, $70 million next year, and $80 million of cap space after that assuming minimal increases in the cap. Maybe Kurashev gets a bump but there is little home grown talent that is going to need large contracts. We all hope Bedrard is in a position to sign an 8 year $15 miilion contract in 4 years but regardless there is alot the Hawks can do to make themselves much more competitive now with plenty of cap space when the propsects start needing long term deals. It will be a dissapointment if the team does not use all of the available cap to either get players or take problem contracts for picks.

Bedard is going to play. There is no reason to rush anyone else next season which builds slow and pushes off the next round of huge contracts another year. Korchinski can play 9 NHL games, go back to junior, play WJC and hopefully have another long Memorial Cup run. Allen I believe can go to Rockford. I don't believe any of the other transformational prospects that have been picked by Davidson have to be promoted.

Washington wants to retool and wants to get out from Kuzntzov and Mantha's salaries. Kuznetzov has 2 years at $8 and Mantha 1 year at $6. Would Washinton dump those two with a significant pick? Damaged goods in the last year of their contracts usually zero in and have decent years.

Vancouver has several contracts that are bothering them. They probably think OEL is a Seabrook type deal that can't be traded. Would they include a sweetener for Davidson to eat $7.3 x 4?

Philadelphia has new management. Hayes has been a big dissapointment. Would they consider dumping his $7 x 3?

DeBrusk is unrestricted after this season and he did ask for a trade last year. Could a couple of stockpiled draft picks be used to get him?

Hathaway, Shattenkirk and Domi are free agents. Could 3 year deals at $3 million entice Hathaway and Shattenkirk? Could $4 million for 5 years get Domi?

Could Richardson get 95 points out of this roster? Can he coach that defense to reduce the goals against from 300 to 230? Increase goals for from 204 to 230?

Mantha Kuznetzov Reichel
DeBrusk Bedard Domi
Hathaway Hayes Kurashev
Johnsson Richardenson Blackwell

Jones Shattenkirk
Murphy OEL
Vlasic Zaisev

Mrazek Soderblom

Still under the cap with a few million to spend. Nodody tied up when Nazar, Korchinski, Allen, Del Mastro, Kaiser and others need bride deals or to be secured long term early.
- stevefrmglencoe

Why in the world would you want to build a mediocre team that drafts in the mid teens and misses the playoffs?

And (frank) no to pooptenkirk. He has sucked for years.

On one hand, posters are saying they need to surround Bedard with competent players, and we need to get to the cap floor doing so

On the other hand, we need to trade S. Jones................

I love this board
- vabeachbear

Anyone trading for Jones is going to have to move one or two of their poop contracts.

Win-win for me.

Because there is an accountant somewhere in Rockyworld that wants rid of the $67 million the Hawks are committed to if they keep Jones.
- RickJ

I almost forgot how worried and concerned we are here for Rocky and his family's money. Poor souls.

Sometimes i watch this Stars team and it looks like JC is running the defense, yikes

20 minutes in, the game is pretty much over

Well once the Vegas Dallas game got really out of hand at least there was Memorial Cup game 1st time really watched our prospects playing for Seattle .It was a decent game tough to get anything going Remparts came out on top with a empty netter ,Allan made it close late but not enough . Thought Allan played very well at both ends Dach was good going to the tough areas . Korchinski for a top 10 pick he has all the tools just needs to bulk up a bit and quit trying to do to much . It was a tough game the Remparts play a very good defense .

Except of all the Toronto guys, why would we take Tavares and give Toronto S. Jones?????????????

They better be adding a lot more for that deal.
- vabeachbear

That’s why I said Tavares+, and Tavares only has two years left on his contract. It won’t happen anyway, Tavares won’t waive for Hawks.

That’s why I said Tavares+, and Tavares only has two years left on his contract. It won’t happen anyway, Tavares won’t waive for Hawks.
- Angotti

If that Nylander rumor has any legs to it, I have to think the Hawks would be one of a few teams to be interested. Especially if Shanahan is desperate to get something done. I wouldn't mind the "other" Nylander for a year. I would doubt that Jones would be one going back though.

That’s why I said Tavares+, and Tavares only has two years left on his contract. It won’t happen anyway, Tavares won’t waive for Hawks.
- Angotti

Sorry, missed the +, I know reading is fundamental

If that Nylander rumor has any legs to it, I have to think the Hawks would be one of a few teams to be interested. Especially if Shanahan is desperate to get something done. I wouldn't mind the "other" Nylander for a year. I would doubt that Jones would be one going back though.
- Chunk

Unless they expect cap to go up, and they send Murray with him.

Unless they expect cap to go up, and they send Murray with him.
- Angotti

Heck, the Hawks can add Mitchell to the deal. Maybe the Leafs find a way to pull his potential out of him. I'd say at this point it's safe to say he'll have a new address next season.