Yeah I remember, Tre was being lauded as the next GM of the year. Now you've got Nonis and Conroy. Your two best players suck and got a Coach and GM fired. Plus you're using the Canucks as a measuring stick. Sad really.
- Load Management

Well I’m happy with the Conroy promotion, the Nonis hiring is a real head scratcher but I think it was a meddling owner on that one.
Who do you consider the Flames 2 best players?
Would never use the Canucks as a measuring stick, more like that rock in the middle of the stream that you step on to keep your feet dry.
Go Canucks Go!

The Canucks will never win anything until they start properly utilizing the draft. They’re just endlessly stuck in this perpetual circle of trying to win without “building” a team from drafting. I understand their current stance, I don’t agree with it, but I get it, it’s what the owner wants and they’ve got some great young players in Pettersson, Demko and Hughes that they wanna be competitive for.

You know, since, and including, the 2000 draft they’ve only picked 13 times in the second round. Chicago, who’s won three Cups in that span, has picked 34 times in the second round, Tampa Bay Lightning 24.

Now, only three of the Canucks 13 second round picks played 100 or more NHL games. Nine of the Blackhawks 34 picks played in 100 or more games, including Duncan Keith, Crawford, Bowland, Bickell & Saad who all won Cups with them. Eight Lightning players of their 24 picks played in 100 or more NHL games, including Kucherov.

Finding kids is extremely difficult, you’ve gotta have a volume of picks, I hope they trade back with Chicago and grab their 19th pick and two second round picks in the process.
- LeftCoaster

Idiot.

- A_SteamingLombardi

What a hit by Bennett.

21 seconds in…

EP ranks him 66, take him in the 2nd!
- VanHockeyGuy

central scouting has him 65th. He's a 7th round pick.

It would be better to wait a season until he is a 21 year old free agent next season and can be had for free. As long as he isn't drafted, just get into his agents ear.

central scouting has him 65th. He's a 7th round pick.

It would be better to wait a season until he is a 21 year old free agent next season and can be had for free. As long as he isn't drafted, just get into his agents ear.
- manvanfan

Speaking of which...

Vladislav Gavrikov = Agent Daniel Milstein

Yeah I remember, Tre was being lauded as the next GM of the year. Now you've got Nonis and Conroy. Your two best players suck and got a Coach and GM fired. Plus you're using the Canucks as a measuring stick. Sad really.
- Load Management

- Marwood

I'm very proud of him.

What did Benning get in the Chatfield trade?

What did Benning get in the Chatfield trade?
- K-man25

He was going to circle back to him but he signed with CAR by then.

What did Benning get in the Chatfield trade?
- K-man25

The exact same thing he used to acquire him

He was going to circle back to him but he signed with CAR by then.
- VanHockeyGuy

He would have been a good partner for Hughes.

He would have been a good partner for Hughes.
- K-man25

Jim was a busy guy, unfortunately he took to long to call him back.

Floods and stuff.

Jim was a busy guy, unfortunately he took to long to call him back.

Floods and stuff.
- VanHockeyGuy

While 90% of the fan base said he was no good and it wasn't a big deal to let him go

While 90% of the fan base said he was no good and it wasn't a big deal to let him go
- manvanfan

Jim being an ex-D and scout? Just another example of how he couldn't build a team.

Well I’m happy with the Conroy promotion, the Nonis hiring is a real head scratcher but I think it was a meddling owner on that one.
Who do you consider the Flames 2 best players?
Would never use the Canucks as a measuring stick, more like that rock in the middle of the stream that you step on to keep your feet dry.
Go Canucks Go!
- K-man25

#firmfoundational!

Jim being an ex-D and scout? Just another example of how he couldn't build a team.
- VanHockeyGuy

But he signed Beagle who Ovi subsequently hugged.
You can't make this shit up.

Jim being an ex-D and scout? Just another example of how he couldn't build a team.
- VanHockeyGuy

A player like that plays 16 games and isn't very noticeable during those games. Not much different than losing Kratsov now.

Don't see anyone screaming that they wish Kratsov would have stayed.

Chatfield probably isn't helping the Canucks right now anyways, he's okay on Carolina because Carolina is a good team.

A player like that plays 16 games and isn't very noticeable during those games. Not much different than losing Kratsov now.

Don't see anyone screaming that they wish Kratsov would have stayed.

Chatfield probably isn't helping the Canucks right now anyways, he's okay on Carolina because Carolina is a good team.
- manvanfan

You'd think/hope someone in the organization would have an eye for that? Chatfield isn't the only one. Tocchet should know the pieces he needs. Kratsov is just another version of JV.

A player like that plays 16 games and isn't very noticeable during those games. Not much different than losing Kratsov now.

Don't see anyone screaming that they wish Kratsov would have stayed.

Chatfield probably isn't helping the Canucks right now anyways, he's okay on Carolina because Carolina is a good team.
- manvanfan

You guys were lucky, he made Ethan Bear expendable. Good bit of GMing right there.

You'd think/hope someone in the organization would have an eye for that? Chatfield isn't the only one. Tocchet should know the pieces he needs. Kratsov is just another version of JV.
- VanHockeyGuy

Unfortunately you see it with almost every team. Everybody has let someone go from time to time because they weren't panning out.

Jake Walman played 13 minutes a night and only 57 games over 3 seasons with STL. I don't know how he got to Detroit but 20 minutes a night now earned himself a 3x3.4M deal.

Chandler Stephenson 33 points in 168 games with Washington. Vegas gave up a 5th round pick for him. Back to back 60 point seasons.

Look at Miller, I don't think he broke 50 before getting to Van did he and a point per game since.

Tkachuk

Benning >>> Nope

You guys were lucky, he made Ethan Bear expendable. Good bit of GMing right there.
- K-man25

Better GM ing would be to get a mid round pick or something for Bear now.

Better GM ing would be to get a mid round pick or something for Bear now.
- manvanfan

Allvin has a busy summer. Hope he takes the CHI deal if true.