Did Nucker hack your account? At least when Benning was here they made it to the bubble.
- VANTEL

He had almost a decade and how many top ten picks? I should hope they made the playoffs a couple times during his tenure.

Nucker doesn’t come here because it’s full of idiots.

Raty is young & an AHL team shouldn’t have prospects top 2C if they are any good at developing. Using vets til a prospect bumps them. He hasn’t been here very long so a good offseason if he gets a shot as a 2nd C is needed.

Beauvillier is getting bumped while RT looks for 3rd wheels to complement lines. Winger logjam has to change. He’s a UFA after next season & on better deal than Garland. Playing for his next contract. It’s fluid at this juncture.

I’ll give Hronek a pass & wait til next season. Heal up & come into camp ready to go.
- Nighthawk

I don't believe your Beau theory. That would be dumb to move a top line player to compliment a third line. I think he has not been as good. I think they put Joshua there because he is battling harder and better at puck retrieval.

Wow

Kuzy was a gift. There was no scouting involved. 32 teams were on him trying to sign him. Most fans here wanted to trade Kuz including Lefty before he hit 20 goals and a new contract. I am not sure, but you may have been one too I will need to ask Mini.

Bains Johansson Aman Joshua all amateur scouting not pro. Bains will be lucky if he plays 30 games as a Canuck unless there is an influence from the Indo fan support.


Bear was trade. Not a good trade just a trade. I hope he doesn't make the roster next year because his play does not move the needle on bit.
- VANTEL

I can’t tackle all the ridiculous sh!t you just wrote but for the record, Aman, Johannson and Joshua were all playing pro hockey.

holy fuck!! Yeah they never watched anything on him, just said (frank) it, let’s take a chance.
- LeftCoaster

He just fell into their lap! It was easy! Surely Benning would have got him as well!

I don’t know where you’re getting this false narrative that the current management group doesn’t want to draft? They have six draft picks in the top four rounds, do you know the last time the Canucks had six picks in the top four rounds? It was 1984.

They’re trying to be competitive and support their young core, yet still build towards the future with a bunch of draft picks and trading for or signing young players. As of right now they’ve been on the job just over a year, if they aren’t at least somewhat successful in three or four years, then I’ll be the first to be calling them out. Despite the Miller contract I’m just not ready to poop all over them until they’ve had more time. Unlike you.
- LeftCoaster

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. 6 could easily be 4 after one trade...

He had almost a decade and how many top ten picks? I should hope they made the playoffs a couple times during his tenure.

Nucker doesn’t come here because it’s full of idiots.
- LeftCoaster

I will give you one more year before they finish in 12 th and wait for your loving then.

I do hope you remind everyone how this year Islander pick does just like you remind us of McCann and Gunther or whomever Arizona drafted .

I can’t tackle all the ridiculous sh!t you just wrote but for the record, Aman, Johannson and Joshua were all playing pro hockey.
- CanuckDon

He’s certainly on a roll today with nonsense. I gotta take our dog out for a walk, he only understands about 40 words of English but I think he knows more about hockey than Vantel does! #tuesdayhate

holy fuck!! Yeah they never watched anything on him, just said (frank) it, let’s take a chance.
- LeftCoaster

I was even on Kuzy does that make me a pro good scout? Your takes are getting terrible. Get off the hard stuff man.

I don't hate anything. I am laughing at you slamming Benning and praising the new group as they do exactly what the last guys did in even less time.

I like some of the things they have done but I definitely see similar mistakes. Their trades have stunk so far. Their drafting when they do keep the pick has been less than impressive. Their cap spending is maxed. They hand out draft picks like TikTocs but thank God we have 3 fourth round picks because they are mostly hidden gems in that round. Lickermaki solid pick.

Keep waving the pom poms.

- VANTEL

Lefty has always been that way. Mistakes and successes are judged by who... not results.

The pro scouting so far has got us Dermott Bear Studnika Stillman Kravstov in trades, am I missing something?


Oh yeah Hronek who has played 4 games.
- VANTEL

Narrative monkeys.

I have the luxury of having watched Benning for eight years, as far as passing judgment. I haven’t had that luxury with these people. To be honest, I was happy with Benning for almost two years, then the wheels fell off and he just kept digging a deeper hole.

I don’t think their trades have been bad, the Horvat trade tree is a great example of good asset management, except maybe adding the second round pick. They’re drafting has been less than impressive LOL, how the (frank) would you know that? Those kids haven’t even had a year of development
- LeftCoaster

If Hronek has an injury riddled season next season... is it still going to be a great success? So far we know they traded for him while he was injured... played 4 games then out for remainder of the season. It will be interesting to see what Yzerman really gave up in that trade for two top 40 picks.

Bear was clearly a win. Why did you leave out Aman, Joshua, johansson, Kuzy Bains etc? I think we all know why. Good to know Hronek is a bust after 4 games

Current management trades a 7th in 3 years for Kravstov, benning would have traded a 2nd
- CanuckDon

Even that idiot Benning wouldn't have bothered trading for Kravstov imo.

I can’t tackle all the ridiculous sh!t you just wrote but for the record, Aman, Johannson and Joshua were all playing pro hockey.
- CanuckDon

Joshua was mostly a Blues AHL player, he played 42 games over two years. That is like saying Briesbois is an NHL Dman. Canucks were use to him and scouted him when Blues and Canucks shared the Comets so don't give me it was the NHL scouting.

Aman never played a NHL game and Johansson still hasn't. The same people that scout the draft picks over seas and the CHL are the ones that told management about these guys and FFS you are talking the bottom of the roster. Thinking they are a big win is crazy.

You ask me how would I know how the draft picks turn out but say the trade tree is good management. How the fuck would you know how that turns out? Raty is 3C on Abby.

Beauvillier is playing third line now that his new surroundings bump is back to where he was with NYI.

Hronek damaged good so far.
- VANTEL

People are not being honest if they at the very least don't consider these things...

Even that idiot Benning wouldn't have bothered trading for Kravstov imo.

- boonerbuck

You are right. He is worse than Etem, Vey, Goldobin etc

Lefty has always been that way. Mistakes and successes are judged by who... not results.
- boonerbuck

Oh yeah.

Joshua was mostly a Blues AHL player, he played 42 games over two years. That is like saying Briesbois is an NHL Dman. Canucks were use to him and scouted him when Blues and Canucks shared the Comets so don't give me it was the NHL scouting.

Aman never played a NHL game and Johansson still hasn't. The same people that scout the draft picks over seas and the CHL are the ones that told management about these guys and FFS you are talking the bottom of the roster. Thinking they are a big win is crazy.
- VANTEL

Do you know the difference between amateur and pro scouting?

Wow

Kuzy was a gift. There was no scouting involved. 32 teams were on him trying to sign him. Most fans here wanted to trade Kuz including Lefty before he hit 20 goals and a new contract. I am not sure, but you may have been one too I will need to ask Mini.

Bains Johansson Aman Joshua all amateur scouting not pro. Bains will be lucky if he plays 30 games as a Canuck unless there is an influence from the Indo fan support.


Bear was trade. Not a good trade just a trade. I hope he doesn't make the roster next year because his play does not move the needle on bit.
- VANTEL

Having Podz and Klimo were draws for Kuze... a little help from past management. It's a shared success story imo...

You are right. He is worse than Etem, Vey, Goldobin etc
- CanuckDon

Studnika Kravstov Dermott Stillman

Having Podz and Klimo were draws for Kuze... a little help from past management. It's a shared success story imo...
- boonerbuck

I think so also Mikheyev (new regime) and I still think the biggest influence migh be the Bure glory years.

I don't believe your Beau theory. That would be dumb to move a top line player to compliment a third line. I think he has not been as good. I think they put Joshua there because he is battling harder and better at puck retrieval.
- VANTEL

Yes RT wants a digger & banger that has some offence in Joshua there. He’s also juggling lines looking ahead to who has chemistry with who. Beauvillier is more a compliment not really a 1st liner. He’s harder on the forecheck than most. We’ll have to wait & see what trades happen this offseason to see a better picture of the lines.

You are right. He is worse than Etem, Vey, Goldobin etc
- CanuckDon

Good grief... that is a trash heap.


Lefty's boy Vey... hahahaha....

Oh yeah.
- VANTEL

Funny to see him accuse you of what he's been doing for the last 8 or 9 seasons.

Studnika Kravstov Dermott Stillman
- VANTEL

Poor comp given the prices paid to aquire these players. Krav was free. Dermott was a 3rd they miraculously obtained from trading Hamonic. Stillman was a cap dump which resulted in Bear. Dermott is inconclusive given his injuries and at least Stillman was moved for a decent prospect.

Benning would have doubled down on his mistakes and traded high picks for his reclamation project.

How did you rope me into an Allvin v benning argument lol. I’m not even saying I like Allvin yet I’m just saying he is an upgrade so far. There are two posters on here that disagree.

I think so also Mikheyev (new regime) and I still think the biggest influence migh be the Bure glory years.
- VANTEL

Yes, you are right. I forgot that... don't forget that this management had a bowl of lemons on the table. Credit where credit is due.