If you recall for the Crosby lottery, instead of taking the records of the teams the last year they played, he took a random number of years. He created some fancy formula that guaranteed Pittsburgh to win that lottery. Now, because he followed the formula, "it was considered on the up and up" by the auditors. But everyone knew it was rigged.
That is how it was sold so fans like you (and the city of Pittsburgh). But some people never trust people in authority.
- powerenforcer

BTW it’s easy to spot conspiracy theorists because they answer direct questions with more conspiracy theories.

Answer the questions I asked. How does Bettman outwit every NHL GM and the auditors? How does Bettman affect the outcome? What was the fancy formula Bettman used to ensure Crosby went to Pittsburgh? Let’s see if you answer these questions or if you keep perpetuating the conspiracy with more conspiracies.

He did it once (at least) in the NHL, and he was part of one in the NBA. Money talks.
- powerenforcer

The craziest anomaly to me is the Oilers winning the first pick four times in six years. And we go nuts over the Knicks winning it back to back years in the 80s.

BTW it’s easy to spot conspiracy theorists because they answer direct questions with more conspiracy theories.

Answer the questions I asked. How does Bettman outwit every NHL GM and the auditors? How does Bettman affect the outcome? What was the fancy formula Bettman used to ensure Crosby went to Pittsburgh? Let’s see if you answer these questions or if you keep perpetuating the conspiracy with more conspiracies.
- paulr

I guess you failed to read my response. Stop feeling sorry for yourself because someone told you there was a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and went searching for it.

I guess you failed to read my response. Stop feeling sorry for yourself because someone told you there was a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and went searching for it.
- powerenforcer

I guess you failed to read my response. Stop feeling sorry for yourself because someone told you there was a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and went searching for it.
- powerenforcer

My Dad had a saying, “if you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullpoop”.

Let’s say the Hawks do land Bedard #1 OA.

The Russian starts to slide due to the Russian factor, down in the 7-12 range.

What would it take to move up to grab him too?


Tampa pick plus let’s say Reichel?

Now that wound a draft…..

Exhale…..

Montreal has snuck into 5th place in the Bedard sweepstakes. Watch them win the lotto.

Montreal has snuck into 5th place in the Bedard sweepstakes. Watch them win the lotto.
- LAHawk

According to the Canadian conspiracy theorists Bettman hates Canada, so there’s that.

Here’s how the draft will go:

1. Anaheim - Bedard
2. Columbus - Fantilli
3. San Jose - Carlsson
4. Chicago - Michkov

With the Tampa pick the Hawks will take goaltender Michael Hrabal.
- DarthKane

Still say there will be defenseman(men) in the top 4 picks.

I agree the Crosby lottery wasn’t done correctly as I believe that year every team had a chance to win instead of the bottom teams, due to the lockout/strike the previous year. But how can you prove a ‘fancy formula’? You can’t, you assume. But that was yesterday, now the lottery has too many safeguards to allow anything but a random result based mathematically on the number of balls per team. Also you say some people never trust those in authority. You’re forgetting one minor detail, the authority isn’t Bettman, the authority are the owners Bettman works for. And if we’re going to go by authority the owners who would have the most pull would be three or four owners of which Chicago would be one one and Arizona would definitely not be one.
- paulr

No matter how much sense you make to this guy he will never admit there isn't a conspiracy. "People" like him can't be reasoned with

Let’s say the Hawks do land Bedard #1 OA.

The Russian starts to slide due to the Russian factor, down in the 7-12 range.

What would it take to move up to grab him too?


Tampa pick plus let’s say Reichel?

Now that wound a draft…..

Exhale…..
- mike7076

You should maybe exhale a little sooner so your posts make sense

The NHL is desperate for Bedard to go to a large NHL market in the US. Matthews/McDavid in Toronto/Edmonton doesnt help grow the game down here like Crosby/Ovechkin in Pittsburgh/Washington did.

The NHL is desperate for Bedard to go to a large NHL market in the US. Matthews/McDavid in Toronto/Edmonton doesnt help grow the game down here like Crosby/Ovechkin in Pittsburgh/Washington did.
- SuperHenderson13

Another conspiracy … that conflicts other conspiracies… so now what conspiracy am I to believe?

If you recall for the Crosby lottery, instead of taking the records of the teams the last year they played, he took a random number of years. He created some fancy formula that guaranteed Pittsburgh to win that lottery. Now, because he followed the formula, "it was considered on the up and up" by the auditors. But everyone knew it was rigged.
That is how it was sold so fans like you (and the city of Pittsburgh). But some people never trust people in authority.
- powerenforcer

The Crosby conspiracy is always one of my favorites. The NHL was a mess back then... do you really think it could rig a lottery and keep it secret all these years?

Plus, the NHL gave the best odds to 4 teams: Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Columbus, and the Rangers. None of those 4 teams had made the postseason in the three years prior nor earned the #1 pick in those years either.

So clearly they didnt guarantee Pittsburgh to win anything given 3 other teams had the same odds. Not only that, but do you really think Bettman would want Crosby in a small market like Pittsburgh or an Original 6 team in one of the biggest markets in the world?

Personally, I liked the formula the league used to give draft odds for the 05 draft. I think the league should take into account more than 1 year to avoid a good team getting the number 1 pick simply because they missed the playoffs due to injuries or some other factor.

Another conspiracy … that conflicts other conspiracies… so now what conspiracy am I to believe?
- paulr

Did I ever say the NHL would rig a draft lottery to make it happen...? No, I said the NHL would like to see Bedard go to a big market in the US. Doesnt mean I think they will rig a draft for him.

Oh, hockey gods, hear my fervent prayer. If the Blackhawks are to only win one more game this year, let it be tonight, against Boston. Amen.
- GreenJeans

NO NO NO sorry but tonight is not the night with SJ vs CLB and hopefully a 3 point night ..Time to lose some ground

The 2023 Lotto drawing will be completely legit so we are done discussing, right?

If any of you got to see the latest Hockey News FUTURE WATCH issue, they listed the their top ten for 2024, I have a round and and a half of the current best players since we have extra picks there too:


https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts/2024

What is worse ?

finishing last and losing the lottery to Nashville and St. Louis (and drafting 4th)
OR
Finishing in the 5th from last slot with no teams behind you in the order win the lotto jump-up?

Thta is why it seems a waste talking about the draft order until AFTER the lotto....

Well Carolina not adding at the deadline looks like a bigger mistake now

Don Waddell, President and General Manager of the National Hockey League's Carolina Hurricanes, today announced that forward Andrei Svechnikov will be out indefinitely after suffering a right knee injury on Saturday night against the Vegas Golden Knights in Raleigh.

"Andrei had an MRI on Monday afternoon, and had a consultation with our team doctors," said Waddell. "In the interest of being thorough, we are continuing to gather information along with Andrei to make the best decision for his health. We will provide further information after a decision is made."
- LAHawk

And here is an article for all the Carolina non-believers.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....-contenders-to-pretenders

BTW it’s easy to spot conspiracy theorists because they answer direct questions with more conspiracy theories.

Answer the questions I asked. How does Bettman outwit every NHL GM and the auditors? How does Bettman affect the outcome? What was the fancy formula Bettman used to ensure Crosby went to Pittsburgh? Let’s see if you answer these questions or if you keep perpetuating the conspiracy with more conspiracies.
- paulr

Yup...read my post above?

Let’s say the Hawks do land Bedard #1 OA.

The Russian starts to slide due to the Russian factor, down in the 7-12 range.

What would it take to move up to grab him too?


Tampa pick plus let’s say Reichel?

Now that wound a draft…..

Exhale…..
- mike7076

I think the Russian kid will drop how far hard to say .If he drops out of the top ten I say the HAWKS would be thinking hard about a making a move on him, losing Reichel would be tough . Maybe the late 1st and a 2nd .If they landed Bedard and him that would be a Home Run !!!!

The 2023 Lotto drawing will be completely legit so we are done discussing, right?

If any of you got to see the latest Hockey News FUTURE WATCH issue, they listed the their top ten for 2024, I have a round and and a half of the current best players since we have extra picks there too:


https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts/2024

What is worse ?

finishing last and losing the lottery to Nashville pdf St. Louis (and drafting 4th)
OR
Finishing in the 5th from last slot with no teams behind you in the order win the lotto jump-up?

Thta is why it seems a waste talking about the draft order until AFTER the lotto....
- wiz1901

Getting the Number 1 PICK is huge it having twice the chance at getting a franchise player over everyone else .And players of Bedard skill come around maybe every ten years . Better to have the best odds available .And if the HAWKS are dead last and win I don't believe there will be to many yelling Fix .

The Crosby conspiracy is always one of my favorites. The NHL was a mess back then... do you really think it could rig a lottery and keep it secret all these years?

Plus, the NHL gave the best odds to 4 teams: Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Columbus, and the Rangers. None of those 4 teams had made the postseason in the three years prior nor earned the #1 pick in those years either.

So clearly they didnt guarantee Pittsburgh to win anything given 3 other teams had the same odds. Not only that, but do you really think Bettman would want Crosby in a small market like Pittsburgh or an Original 6 team in one of the biggest markets in the world?

Personally, I liked the formula the league used to give draft odds for the 05 draft. I think the league should take into account more than 1 year to avoid a good team getting the number 1 pick simply because they missed the playoffs due to injuries or some other factor.
- SuperHenderson13

It's not a secret. Everyone knows it was rigged.

The 2023 Lotto drawing will be completely legit so we are done discussing, right?

If any of you got to see the latest Hockey News FUTURE WATCH issue, they listed the their top ten for 2024, I have a round and and a half of the current best players since we have extra picks there too:


https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts/2024

What is worse ?

finishing last and losing the lottery to Nashville and St. Louis (and drafting 4th)
OR
Finishing in the 5th from last slot with no teams behind you in the order win the lotto jump-up?

Thta is why it seems a waste talking about the draft order until AFTER the lotto....
- wiz1901

Wiz- one of the yahoo articles (maybe wyno) mentioned the 24' draft class as a weak one. This have any merit?

https://twitter.com/ChiSp...SdHstWbrOoK12UIBL-sg&s=01

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https://twitter.com/ChiSportUpdates/status/1635707705363922946?t=cZSdHstWbrOoK12UIBL-sg&s=01

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- BetweenTheDots

I'm sure it's fake