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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 17 @ 2:28 PM ET
2 years ago on this day, Ralph Krueger was fired.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Mar 17 @ 2:29 PM ET
Considering he can't play in Amerks playoffs anyway, it's not like he's missing a development experience by not playing an additional 2-3 games down there if he split starts with Subban. Now that he's on ELC, there's really no reason to send him there. There may also be a contract stipulation or handshake agreement preventing him from going there for the rest of the year too.
- TheSabresTaco


More curious on how/if they use him down the stretch here.

I wouldn't completely rule out Roch. Still a month of games. I think you're right that he stays up though.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Mar 17 @ 2:29 PM ET
Even if Levi played for us and did bad, you chalk it up to there's just too much difference to go from NCAA to NHL without some time to adjust. At this point, there is no downside to playing him up here. You give Andy his starts and give Levi everything else.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Mar 17 @ 2:30 PM ET
So right now we have 4 goalies with the team or
Is Comrie on IR?

- jochfr


4. IR is irrelevant with no roster size limit.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 2:32 PM ET
So right now we have 4 goalies with the team or
Is Comrie on IR?

- jochfr


we can have 50.

but yes we have 4. Comrie is not on IR because he doesn't need to be
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Mar 17 @ 2:33 PM ET
Is timo? Guys hit 30 3 times. Might not get to 40 this year. Where does the 50 number come from?
- TheHank

He’s on pace for 43-45 goals.

In order for Savoie “to be better in two years” than current Timo it’s 50.

Or Savoie needs to be a ppg+ player.

It’s a tall ask.

I also think there is a pretty big miss here on how good Timo is.

Not a huge leap there.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 2:38 PM ET
you know who is on IR?

Ben Bishop.

5 goalies baby!!!
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Mar 17 @ 2:41 PM ET
He’s on pace for 43-45 goals.

In order for Savoie “to be better in two years” than current Timo it’s 50.

Or Savoie needs to be a ppg+ player.

It’s a tall ask.

I also think there is a pretty big miss here on how good Timo is.

Not a huge leap there.

- ImThatGuy


He's grasping. He thought no one would call out his ridiculous Savoie comment, and now he's going to make the equally ridiculous claim Savoie is in the NHL next season. Why would the Sabres rush a small forward? Are we lacking in tiny skilled forwards? He's not in the NHL next season.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 17 @ 2:44 PM ET
He’s on pace for 43-45 goals.

In order for Savoie “to be better in two years” than current Timo it’s 50.

Or Savoie needs to be a ppg+ player.

It’s a tall ask.

I also think there is a pretty big miss here on how good Timo is.

Not a huge leap there.

- ImThatGuy

Jumping in on this late but I don't think it's realistic to think that any 2nd year player is going to outperform a guy like Meier unless we're talking one of the generational kids like Bedard, and even then they take time to get going. We don't even know for sure if Savoie is going to be in the NHL next year full time and how he will do if he is.

I'm hoping Savoie is up next year if only because he will likely learn more playing against better competition, but I do not expect him to contribute too much. Quinn has 31 points in 60 games, JJP has 26 in 63. These are the numbers I expect any of Kulich, Ostlund, Rosen, or Savoie to put up if they are up here full time next year.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 17 @ 2:48 PM ET
Even if Levi played for us and did bad, you chalk it up to there's just too much difference to go from NCAA to NHL without some time to adjust. At this point, there is no downside to playing him up here. You give Andy his starts and give Levi everything else.
- lacaprup

Obviously don't kill his confidence and throw him to the wolves like we like to do, but I would definitely want to give him a few games. I would expect it to be after a few practices where they can get him to work with the coaches and team but in around 2 weeks time I think get him in there.

Home against Montreal on the 27th looks like a good day to start him. If the team goes on a tear before then, beating teams like Boston, New Jersey, and the Islanders and you're in a playoff spot then you're starting your rookie against the weakest team on your schedule. If they lose a few of those and are sliding out of the race then why worry about it and focus on his growth instead.

That said I got tickets for Tuesday so if they want to play him then I won't be upset.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 17 @ 2:52 PM ET
No Rochester for the Devonator
- TheSabresTaco

Just confirming this, Matthew Fairburn on twitter said the plan is for him to report to Buffalo once his immigration stuff is processed.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 17 @ 2:53 PM ET
One guy has 2 legs that work




The other guy is gonna have less points then snipensons

- Boss34

Yep, 1 less in 20 less games, injury hurts. Gotta get all my D talk out of the way!!🤔🤷‍♂️
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 2:55 PM ET
Just confirming this, Matthew Fairburn on twitter said the plan is for him to report to Buffalo once his immigration stuff is processed.
- Zschalberg


he also received the max rookie contract. bonuses and all that.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Mar 17 @ 2:56 PM ET
Is hart better... probably... is he 3 mill more better probably not
- hubie


That's fair. Right now he definitely is. I just think UPL has a bit more than the numbers are showing atm.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 17 @ 2:56 PM ET
he also received the max rookie contract. bonuses and all that.
- TheSabresTaco

Yep, they gave him everything he wanted
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 17 @ 2:59 PM ET
Let's go 1 down, time for Beane to make this day complete.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Mar 17 @ 2:59 PM ET
Yahooooooooooooooooooooooo
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 17 @ 3:02 PM ET
2 years ago on this day, Ralph Krueger was fired.
- jochfr


If only on this date we could fire YOU
SoCalPucks
San Jose Sharks
Location: Ice-O-Plex, CA
Joined: 03.20.2012

Mar 17 @ 3:02 PM ET
you know who is on IR?

Ben Bishop.

5 goalies baby!!!

- TheSabresTaco


Put all 5 in the net at once and dare teams to score goals.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Mar 17 @ 3:03 PM ET
he also received the max rookie contract. bonuses and all that.
- TheSabresTaco


Max bonuses? That would be extremely surprising.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 17 @ 3:05 PM ET
he also received the max rookie contract. bonuses and all that.
- TheSabresTaco

Makes sense. The leverage that they had was limited, and he had all of the cards but could only really get a bit more out of it without going nuclear, so it was a game of chicken and it works out of both sides. Sabres get their guy and have plenty of space since ELCs are not large, he gets as much money as he can now.

Now his leverage is gone, so we'll see what they do as far as next year's goalie situation. UPL and Comrie are both under contract, Levi would likely start in Rochester unless he exceeds expectations, so we will see if they try to bring in a more veteran guy to take games from one of the two NHL guys.
Jammerz04
Buffalo Sabres
Location: K, BC
Joined: 01.03.2014

Mar 17 @ 3:10 PM ET
You want to trade Rosen or Ostlund + more for Carter Hart? Who the hell do you think Carter Hart is?
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 17 @ 3:12 PM ET
If only on this date we could fire YOU
- Wetbandit1

Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Mar 17 @ 3:15 PM ET
Let's go 1 down, time for Beane to make this day complete.
- Buff36



I would love Harris from NE to round out uuur RBs
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 17 @ 3:16 PM ET
Per PuckPedia, if Levi hits those performance bonuses it won't affect the cap next year because we aren't using the LTIR stuff. So I guess that's nice.
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