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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Mar 3 @ 11:25 AM ET
That’s funny - cus according to capfriendly - they’ll have 33mil when it comes time to resign Petey - he’s not going anywhere.
Right now the JT, Boeser, Garland, Hughes and Demko are the only contracts on the books at that time - we’ll see who’s still around - but I think you’re delusional.
I think Petey will be an extended the moment they can and he’ll be made captain.

- Brooks_Light


Watch this video... Shannon's take is exactly what I think of this situation:

https://youtu.be/HMV3DwS2ZnM
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 3 @ 11:26 AM ET
What are they livid about? That they would have traded him if it meant getting a center?

Wonder if they could have looped in a third team... JTM to Pitts > Pitts picks to other team > Canucks get C from other team and other player(s)

- NewYorkNuck

Taj doesn't know anything, he just posts rage-bait.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 3 @ 11:27 AM ET
Watch this video... Shannon's take is exactly what I think of this situation:

https://youtu.be/HMV3DwS2ZnM

- DariusKnight

Every time I post his videos people get mad

But yeah I really agree with his point that the Hronek move is intended to convince Petey to re-sign
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 3 @ 11:29 AM ET
Watch this video... Shannon's take is exactly what I think of this situation:

https://youtu.be/HMV3DwS2ZnM

- DariusKnight


Watch this 23 minute video!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:30 AM ET
Watch this 23 minute video!
- NewYorkNuck

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:31 AM ET
As much as I hate Boston, are they ever dialled in. Both on the ice and off.
- bloatedmosquito

Another team that will struggle in the PO's.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:32 AM ET


This organization doesn't deserve Bedard.

- Reubenkincade

With 'fans' like you that's exactly correct.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:37 AM ET
Pitt sending players down. Are they going to target Bonino?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
Pitt sending players down. Are they going to target Bonino?
- VANTEL


Target him? They already traded for him
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:42 AM ET
Target him? They already traded for him
- NewYorkNuck


I should be an insider


Was busy yesterday missed a lot.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:42 AM ET
Another team that will struggle in the PO's.
- LordHumungous


Ya think? Why? They got it all and that was before they made some pretty savvy trades this week. Who’s going to give them trouble?

NYR? I think they will struggle in the playoffs.
Hurricanes? I don’t think they are better than the Bruins.
Leafs?
Devils? I think many people are surprised they have done as well as they have this season. They are up and coming but this ain’t their year.
Lightning? Their time is over.

I just don’t see the Bruins being challenged by any of these top contenders in the east.
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Mar 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
Ya think? Why? They got it all and that was before they made some pretty savvy trades this week. Who’s going to give them trouble?

NYR? I think they will struggle in the playoffs.
Hurricanes? I don’t think they are better than the Bruins.
Leafs?
Devils? I think many people are surprised they have done as well as they have this season. They are up and coming but this ain’t their year.
Lightning? Their time is over.

I just don’t see the Bruins being challenged by any of these top contenders in the east.

- bloatedmosquito

The 1st round in the east is going to be some epic hockey.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
I will also add that even though I think it stings losing two top 40 picks I also think Canucks drafting sucks big time. I don't trust JR at all, and Allvin reminds me of JR's yes man.

My reaction to losing two top picks is probably more of a knee jerk when in the long run until this team gets better at drafting might be the best result of the picks.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:47 AM ET
Ya think? Why? They got it all and that was before they made some pretty savvy trades this week. Who’s going to give them trouble?

NYR? I think they will struggle in the playoffs.
Hurricanes? I don’t think they are better than the Bruins.
Leafs?
Devils? I think many people are surprised they have done as well as they have this season. They are up and coming but this ain’t their year.
Lightning? Their time is over.

I just don’t see the Bruins being challenged by any of these top contenders in the east.

- bloatedmosquito


AVS
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
Watch this 23 minute video!
- NewYorkNuck

To be fair how much wasted time do you spend here anyway
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:48 AM ET

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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23s
Lazar to NJ for a 4th in 2024
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Mar 3 @ 11:50 AM ET
I understand why they did it but don't like how much they paid. I have been saying they can make significant change in the next two years so the move does not surprise me.

Bear to me is like Stecher. If you have them in your top 4 you are a bubble team or less. I don't have anything against him personally but look at him as an ugly girlfriend.

Who would I have targeted?

For me it is not who I would have targeted but how I would have targeted a trade. RHD are like gold and in most cases if developed properly can bring in a boatload in a trade. I see Fabro who was drafted mid first and now the asking price is a first if you want him and he is not that good. I would have drafted the best RHD with every pick outside of the top five in this year's draft. You only need to hit on one or two a year.

I would buy out OEL this year and and trade Myers this summer and would have bought two middle of the road RHD this year and kept my draft picks.

Not angry with the trade I just don't like the cost.

- VANTEL


I agree - I hate the cost - I would’ve like to draft a center with the first, and two d with tens NYI pick and our second. But it’s a gamble.

Getting rid of OEL and Myers is gonna create some massive holes - hopefully for the better bcus they’re both garbage but again they play against top players and log huge mins every night.

the price for Hronek was huge and I hate it but it’s the beginning of changing the back end and it’s a great start realistically, considering we have control of a proven player for potentially 5-10 years.

It’s a Tough situation given the fact they have to convince Petey and Hughes to stick around and the chances of trading each of those players and hoping you can redraft players of their calibre is fawking highly unlikely. It’s just not realistic, no matter how easy people here think it is.

I think there’s this mentality that drafting RHD automatically means that they’re gonna be good or valuable players - It’s mental. Again, look around the league- I can think of a handful of decent RHD /it’s rare to find decent ones that move the needle - my point is that no matter who you trade for or draft - Bear is the norm.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
23s
Lazar to NJ for a 4th in 2024

- VANTEL

I liked Lazar but that's decent enough value, can easily sign someone like him in the summer for free
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
AVS
- VANTEL


I was talking eastern conference only. Are you saying Avs - Bruins cup final?
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Mar 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
23s
Lazar to NJ for a 4th in 2024

- VANTEL


Awesome - terrible contract - useless player
2mil free
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Mar 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
Watch this video... Shannon's take is exactly what I think of this situation:

https://youtu.be/HMV3DwS2ZnM

- DariusKnight


No thanks - but I appreciate it
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:55 AM ET
The 1st round in the east is going to be some epic hockey.
- Danny Bomber


300% I don’t watch many eastern game but I’m looking forward to catching as many as I can during the first round. Should be some excellent hockey.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 3 @ 11:55 AM ET
To be fair how much wasted time do you spend here anyway
- NorthNuck


We all waste more than that, but to waste time here AND 23 minutes there? No thank you
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
I agree - I hate the cost - I would’ve like to draft a center with the first, and two d with tens NYI pick and our second. But it’s a gamble.

Getting rid of OEL and Myers is gonna create some massive holes - hopefully for the better bcus they’re both garbage but again they play against top players and log huge mins every night.

the price for Hronek was huge and I hate it but it’s the beginning of changing the back end and it’s a great start realistically, considering we have control of a proven player for potentially 5-10 years.

It’s a Tough situation given the fact they have to convince Petey and Hughes to stick around and the chances of trading each of those players and hoping you can redraft players of their calibre is fawking highly unlikely. It’s just not realistic, no matter how easy people here think it is.

I think there’s this mentality that drafting RHD automatically means that they’re gonna be good or valuable players - It’s mental. Again, look around the league- I can think of a handful of decent RHD /it’s rare to find decent ones that move the needle - my point is that no matter who you trade for or draft - Bear is the norm.

- Brooks_Light


You can't fall much more than how they were this year.

Don't get me wrong I am happy with the direction. I think Kravstov was a very good signing. I don't know enough about Hronek but again I don't like the price at first sight.

It just seems like this management failed on a few moves like Boeser and the length of Miller and even Lazar now being traded when signed to a three year deal. It looks like a lot of back peddling but the good thing is they are not sitting back on their mistakes and letting them expire.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
300% I don’t watch many eastern game but I’m looking forward to catching as many as I can during the first round. Should be some excellent hockey.
- bloatedmosquito


It's going to be amazing. Eastern games are the only ones I can really watch in Europe without staying up til dawn, so I'm amped
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