Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Hank Balling: Cozens Signs Extension, Top-6 Centers Set For Next 7 Years
Author Message
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 8 @ 11:40 AM ET
Problem is maker's deal is 6 years I believe for 9 million?

Dahlin needs to be maxed and will be.

I'd be super disappointed if it's less then 8 years.

10.5 x 8

- Boss34


Any extension will be for 7 years.

If he gets to RFA it'll be for 8

I thought Makar's deal was maxed. That's crazy
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Feb 8 @ 11:41 AM ET
Gus may not either .....

Baller laid out the contract recently

825,000 x 8 years.

KA locks up core guys with multi year deals

- Boss34


Anyone Adams want to keep ….. get a long term deal

Anyone not in the long term plans …. Get a 2 year deal or less and I would consider place holders
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 8 @ 11:41 AM ET
How about a 3rd line of Jenner - Krebs - Olofsson?
- kingcong39


Are you giving up mitts?

What are you giving up for Jenner?
He's gonna command a lot more then people expect.

Captain of an nhl team....
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:42 AM ET
I see what you're saying but I don't believe that to be true. All of these negotiations are current market value for like players.

So just because you pay a norris caliber defenseman 10M doesn't mean you need to pay Bryson 4 million.

yes salaries inch up over time of course, especially with revenues increasing. In three years we're probably looking at 88-90M cap. I wouldn't be too worried about paying Dahlin a fair/lightly team friendly deal. I'll plant my flag on 9.5M

- TheSabresTaco

I think 9.5 is the number. It’s a lot, so it’s not an insult by any means, and it’s comparable to other top D guys
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Feb 8 @ 11:43 AM ET
Problem is maker's deal is 6 years I believe for 9 million?

Dahlin needs to be maxed and will be.

I'd be super disappointed if it's less then 8 years.

10.5 x 8

- Boss34


10.5 seems high when makar got 9. So Dahlin gets a little over that
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
Damn, that's a lot for a Nacho Vendor!! 😝😝
- Buff36


😀

Gonna need someone to keep asplunds spot open in the nachos line.

He's gonna be busy , from what I saw.....

Boone jenner makes okposo definitely expendable.
Makes me think twice about girgs.
Then I come back to reality. Girgs for life...
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
oh my god lyubushkin has more points than eichel in 2023
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 8 @ 11:45 AM ET
Problem is maker's deal is 6 years I believe for 9 million?

Dahlin needs to be maxed and will be.

I'd be super disappointed if it's less then 8 years.

10.5 x 8

- Boss34


It also only bought 2 UFA years. One to keep in mind when discussing Power.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 8 @ 11:46 AM ET
10.5 seems high when makar got 9. So Dahlin gets a little over that
- Sabretooth9


Is agree , 10.5 seems really high.

Dahlin may get 100 points this season.
I really think he still has upside and untapped potential.

Gotta max his deal.
Makar at 6 years x 9 would be very disappointing IMO


max dahlin at 8 years regardless if its 11 or even 12.

Once in a franchise player...
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:48 AM ET
oh my god lyubushkin has more points than eichel in 2023
- TheSabresTaco

ECHL is on one terrible skid. Wow. Vegas must just be hating life right now. I bet he does not last until next summer there, especially if they get bounced early and he’s not a factor in the playoffs
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 8 @ 11:48 AM ET
It also only bought 2 UFA years. One to keep in mind when discussing Power.
- Lunaion


What are you thinking with power

Bridge like dahlin. 3 x 6 million?

Power may get 3 x 6.5 , hes looked better then dahlin in year 2 .....

Gotta keep guys like power for 11 years. I would dahlin his deal, not eichel him IMO
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Feb 8 @ 12:04 PM ET
oh my god lyubushkin has more points than eichel in 2023
- TheSabresTaco



Couldn't happen to a nicer guy...
JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over
Joined: 09.06.2012

Feb 8 @ 12:05 PM ET
OUCH... wonder if is due to his pervious injury he hasn't looked right since returning honestly.
- gordong


Prob has more to do with the fact that Stone is out of the lineup and Eichel couldn't carry a jockstrap if it was tied to his junk and his career depended on it.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 8 @ 12:06 PM ET
Why would 6x9 be disappointing?

You’d have your core locked up for minimum 7 years. (Dahlin still has another year after this)

If Dahlin wants 6x9 sign me the hell up.

c2rds
Joined: 06.30.2006

Feb 8 @ 12:08 PM ET
What would we have to give up for Fabbro and Jeannot?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 8 @ 12:13 PM ET
What are you thinking with power

Bridge like dahlin. 3 x 6 million?

Power may get 3 x 6.5 , hes looked better then dahlin in year 2 .....

Gotta keep guys like power for 11 years. I would dahlin his deal, not eichel him IMO

- Boss34


No clue. You just never know where the player is at. I'd want 8 years.

8 years @ 9m, Ekblad/Heiskanen deal, based on cap %. Seems fair.

6@ 9.7m, Makar deal. Probably on the high side. 6 years seems most likely.
6@ 8.5m, Hughes deal. Probably on the low side.

3@ 6.5m, Dahlin deal. Probably on the low side
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 8 @ 12:15 PM ET
I've never claimed to not bring reinfart up?

Guy sucks ballz.

Wow 60 point season 😀

17 regular season goals 8 of which were pp
-13 for the season

Olofsson 23 goals 18 of which were even strength
Picked 179 picks later and makes almost 2 million less

- Boss34


I’ve never been an Olofsson basher though, so idk where this matters to me at all. 9 years after their draft year positioning is largely irrelevant. You know Sam gets pretty streaky as well, would surprise if he ends up with 70 points as the collective Panthers team plays better.

And yeah you have. Or at least said you are done bringing him up (last season when he was dominant)
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 12:33 PM ET
I really hope he takes a 9-9.5 per or we’re going to have a serious compression issue on our hands
- lulags


The Sabres may have a problem if he takes more than $9.5M only if the Cap stagnates, not if it increases in the manner projected by the league
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 12:36 PM ET
Without the addition of a Timo I don't believe this team has a long term cap issue.

I ran an estimate with Timo in it for a few years down the line and it looks like we'd need to be building a base cost bottom 3. It's possible and easy if they can shed jeff the last couple years of his deal.

That comes with current projections and not categoric jumps from Quinn, Peterka, Krebs et al

- TheSabresTaco


I agree with you on the overall point. The details between us probably are different.
ELC's, Bridge deals and Vet minimums will help to keep it under control as they get towards the out years.

People really need to get comfortable that there really isn't a problem going forward...unless KA decides to pay Gus $3M
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 12:39 PM ET
I've never claimed to not bring reinfart up?

Guy sucks ballz.

Wow 60 point season 😀

17 regular season goals 8 of which were pp
-13 for the season

Olofsson 23 goals 18 of which were even strength
Picked 179 picks later and makes almost 2 million less

- Boss34


I think we can now, after many years forget about draft position...Olo's story is remarkable.

one guys scores more and makes others better...the other scores less and needs others to drive play.
That said, finishers are needed no doubt.
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Feb 8 @ 12:39 PM ET
Who does SabresNoise they are posting that.
- Buff36



Came from a hockey talk show
Not a rumor

Guys were talking about sabres and Meir
And how that would be the team that could use him the most and resign easily

Back and forth awhile

Guy says Jenner would be nice add for them in middle of lineup " he's not taken cozens spot". No no but he can play wing

Back and forth for minute

A really good add for them would be the defenseman for Columbus starts with a G

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 8 @ 12:51 PM ET
I agree with you on the overall point. The details between us probably are different.
ELC's, Bridge deals and Vet minimums will help to keep it under control as they get towards the out years.

People really need to get comfortable that there really isn't a problem going forward...unless KA decides to pay Gus $3M

- IonSabres


I know we've talked about it before, but there's a big swing depending on how you handle the mid-tier guys. Extending VO, Mitts, Jost, Joker, UPL can get expensive. If you move on from some/most, you have a plenty of room to play with.

You'd hope they move on from a few, but you just never know. They seem to love some guys more than they really should.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Feb 8 @ 12:52 PM ET
I think we can now, after many years forget about draft position...Olo's story is remarkable.

one guys scores more and makes others better...the other scores less and needs others to drive play.
That said, finishers are needed no doubt.

- IonSabres


If this is Olo.. whom does he make better?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 8 @ 12:53 PM ET
Why would 6x9 be disappointing?

You’d have your core locked up for minimum 7 years. (Dahlin still has another year after this)

If Dahlin wants 6x9 sign me the hell up.

- ImThatGuy


Your talking about letting the best defenseman in the league out of buffalo at 28 instead of 30.

Foolish. Especially in buffalo, vibes or no vibes, you max dahlins contract. No brainer....
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Feb 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
One of the great George Costanza moments. Right up there with, "The sea was angry, my friends...."
- lacaprup

...like an old man tryin to return soup at the deli.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58  Next