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wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:51 PM ET
I agree with you on this but believe it or not, most analytic experts believe that statistically, faceoffs have little impact on possession.
- MJL



I could see that for the better teams, not for the mid level teams
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:51 PM ET
plenty for us to complain and debate about

https://flyersnittygritty...DoUxOdqYQI_71ND7Pu6qhbOD4
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 25 @ 5:51 PM ET
of the 3 who you got:

moondog spot
moondog rex
moondog king

- hello it's me 2050


King... aka Sailor White
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:54 PM ET
Wow the Panthers, went all in last season and now don't appear to be a playoff team


Hopefully next season they finish 11th from the bottom
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 25 @ 6:01 PM ET
King... aka Sailor White
- bmeltzer

his run was short in wwwf.....me loved the valiant brothers and the blackjacks
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jan 25 @ 6:13 PM ET
I could see that for the better teams, not for the mid level teams
- wcorvette


A good example of that was the Avs last year. Worst in the league in faceoffs. Good puck possession teams can get the puck back. Faceoffs matter most on special teams or late in the game trying to get the equalizer or protecting a lead.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:20 PM ET
plenty for us to complain and debate about

https://flyersnittygritty...DoUxOdqYQI_71ND7Pu6qhbOD4

- wcorvette


The writing is so horrible I could only make it through the first two paragraphs. Is it AI generated?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 25 @ 6:35 PM ET
And give those minutes to whom? You really want Risto playing 22mins a game instead? York? Scratch Tony and bring Braun back in to play 18mins?

There's problems with every alternative. The puzzle is missing pieces.




I feel like you and jd250 are just being edgy/contrarian with regards to RR.

He's objectively bad. 10-years of observations and data show he's bad. He was still bad when he was scoring 40-points, that's how bad he was. He was bad last season here. He was bad earlier this season playing on the top line.

For the first time in his career a coach finally realized that he's better off as a 3rd-pairing guy, and he's settled down with the lighter load. He doesn't need more minutes.

- Tomahawk


My only response in bold is, Ristolainen is not bad right now and it’s the only argument I need. Running and hiding behind old data from a team that was clearly misusing him is nonsense.

As for the minutes, I’ve said clearly, give York more of a push seeing tougher situations. Penalty kill and closing out one goal leads. Also there is no reason why Seeler cannot kill penalties more regularly. Those minutes can easily be taken away from DeAngelo.

I can’t make this more clear, I feel like I’m repeating myself.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:53 PM ET
A good example of that was the Avs last year. Worst in the league in faceoffs. Good puck possession teams can get the back back. Faceoffs matter most on special teams or late in the game trying to get the equalizer or protecting a lead.
- Minnyhock


That's the thing. Statistically with a large data pool, faceoffs don't affect possession much. However, in key situations, they certainly can affect the game.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 25 @ 7:18 PM ET
My only response in bold is, Ristolainen is not bad right now and it’s the only argument I need. Running and hiding behind old dada from a team that was clearly misusing him is nonsense.

As for the minutes, I’ve stayed clearly. Give York more of a push seeing tougher situations. Penalty kill and closing out one goal leads. Also there is no reason why Seeler cannot kill penalties more regularly. Those minutes can easily be taken away from DeAngelo.

I can’t make this more clear, I feel like I’m repeating myself.

- SuperSchennBros


I think i am going to Disneyland
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 25 @ 7:42 PM ET
I think i am going to Disneyland
- hello it's me 2050

🤷🏾‍♂️
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 25 @ 7:50 PM ET
his run was short in wwwf.....me loved the valiant brothers and the blackjacks
- hello it's me 2050


King was wanted in Canada and arrested when he crossed the border. That's why he was replaced in the Moondogs.

Loved the Valiant. Johnny was hilarious.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 25 @ 8:12 PM ET
sure would be nice to have a player of jack hughes caliber on this roster
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 25 @ 9:03 PM ET
Claude Giroux, still a really good hockey player, sucks Ottawa is terrible
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jan 25 @ 10:03 PM ET
King... aka Sailor White
- bmeltzer


Haha I have to go with Spot, as I remember him the most, plus he died in the ring.


Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jan 25 @ 10:06 PM ET
his run was short in wwwf.....me loved the valiant brothers and the blackjacks
- hello it's me 2050


Yes, King was a little before my time I guess, as I only remember Spot and Rex
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 25 @ 10:10 PM ET
You did it at 10:57 this morning.

" I thought he had got better defensively and he stated he was working hard on that part of his game"

Ristolainen has not revamped his game. Not one bit. He has regressed as a player.

I was proven correct with Frost.

- MJL

Regarding Frost, its funny how you apparently have completed your assessment of Frost while Torts, his staff and the entire front office has not. But going by your opinion, what is Morgan Frost? Is he a legitimate top 6 forward of a good NHL team? Mind you Frost has 24 points in 48 games this year, and 8 of those points came against Arizona. Scoring 0.5 pts/game unfortunately does not make Frost a top 6 forward on a good team in the NHL, sorry to inform you. Frost may be a 3rd line forward in this league, which makes him at least in the top 9. OK, maybe he ends up there. But I ask you, if that is all he is, was it worth trading Brayden Schenn, who was and is a legitimate top 6 forward on a good team? I think not.

Right now Morgan Frost is a fast but smallish forward who is below average in faceoffs, frequently gets bumps off the puck, has had a history of lazy play away from the puck, and scores points at the rate of a 3rd line player. But hey, at least he is playing in the NHL! Well, at least for now.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 25 @ 10:13 PM ET
There isn't anything I can obviously do to stop you from keeping on going. No matter how many times you've been proven wrong.
- MJL

Oh .. you are something .. I just showed you 3 OT games in a row where the Flyers played 2Fs and 1D, and I'm wrong???
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jan 25 @ 10:14 PM ET
My only response in bold is, Ristolainen is not bad right now and it’s the only argument I need. Running and hiding behind old data from a team that was clearly misusing him is nonsense.

As for the minutes, I’ve said clearly, give York more of a push seeing tougher situations. Penalty kill and closing out one goal leads. Also there is no reason why Seeler cannot kill penalties more regularly. Those minutes can easily be taken away from DeAngelo.

I can’t make this more clear, I feel like I’m repeating myself.

- SuperSchennBros


Agreed! I like what I'm seeing out of York and yes, keep playing him in tougher situations. I know it's cool by most here to hate on Risto, but he's been fine overall.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 25 @ 10:18 PM ET
And you clearly don’t understand what actually happened. It’s about the player finding his game, building his confidence, and then being physically and mentally prepared once the call up happens. No magic coaching
- ClaudeFather[/img]

What actually happened according to Charlie O'Connor was coming into camp, York was petrified of John Tortorella because of his perception of the type of coach Torts was. York presumed Torts wanted York to be sound defensively and focused all his efforts on his defensive game. What York did not know was Torts had heard about the offensive skill York possessed and was looking forward to seeing York show off his offensive side during camp. It did not happen. As Torts pout it, York should be able to take over a game but I just don't see that in his game. So come the start of the season, Torts sent York down and asked him to really work on that part of this game and free himself up to roam around the ice and make more plays. York to his credit did that and when the opportunity arose was called up. Torts has obviously been happy ever since.

This story also demonstrates how Torts has changed as a coach over the years. Torts has realized he had to change in order to still be a viable NHL coach, and for that Torts deserves a lot of credit.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 25 @ 10:22 PM ET
King was wanted in Canada and arrested when he crossed the border. That's why he was replaced in the Moondogs.

Loved the Valiant. Johnny was hilarious.

- bmeltzer

I never knew until recently that the Valiant Brothers were actually not brothers at all
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 25 @ 10:24 PM ET
Yes, King was a little before my time I guess, as I only remember Spot and Rex
- Don Nachbaur

The perfect tag-team for Captain Lou to manage! Man I miss that guy.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 25 @ 10:24 PM ET
Claude Giroux, still a really good hockey player, sucks Ottawa is terrible
- ClaudeFather

Seems like bad teams follow Giroux around, even in Florida.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jan 25 @ 10:45 PM ET
The perfect tag-team for Captain Lou to manage! Man I miss that guy.
- jd250



Yes, gotta love Capt Lou!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 26 @ 2:48 AM ET
My only response in bold is, Ristolainen is not bad right now and it’s the only argument I need. Running and hiding behind old data from a team that was clearly misusing him is nonsense.

As for the minutes, I’ve said clearly, give York more of a push seeing tougher situations. Penalty kill and closing out one goal leads. Also there is no reason why Seeler cannot kill penalties more regularly. Those minutes can easily be taken away from DeAngelo.

I can’t make this more clear, I feel like I’m repeating myself.

- SuperSchennBros


I don't think piling more on a rookie and a replacement level player is really gonna make much of a difference here.
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