Did you see the thread when he was booted?

Mich... I mean Beady went to the Leafs mods cause Stripes took a sick day


Probably the biggest kick I've gotten outta this blog
- DirtyDan

It was an AllTime great! That’s exactly what I’m talking about Danzo. I think he went into Eklund’s front page blog with the post snap shots too. I was waiting to see them in The NY Times!

Working really hard to paint over, or just avoid, the bad periods. Will turn 29 when his deal ends. Bet there's great discussions over what to do with him in their offices.

How does an aging curve apply to a guy with that skillset?
- Lunaion

2 year 5.5 per extension

It was an AllTime great! That’s exactly what I’m talking about Danzo. I think he went into Eklund’s front page blog with the post snap shots too. I was waiting to see them in The NY Times!
- Hatboro_Swords

I've got it laminated... just need that signature

Did you see the thread when he was booted?

Mich... I mean Beady went to the Leafs mods cause Stripes took a sick day


Probably the biggest kick I've gotten outta this blog
- DirtyDan

can you post a link?


either thread will work

The worst contracts in the league aren’t the superstars making big money.

It’s the 4-6 mil guys who provide replacement level or worse results

Pay the stars. Have everyone else on low/elc deals
- sbroads24

BINGO!!

Should the Sabres trade for Timo Meier? Weighing the pros and cons of a potential deal

Jan 24, 2023; Detroit, Michigan, USA; San Jose Sharks right wing Timo Meier (28) skates with the puck chased by Detroit Red Wings defenseman Moritz Seider (53) in the first period at Little Caesars Arena. Mandatory Credit: Rick Osentoski-USA TODAY Sports
By Matthew Fairburn
Jan 26, 2023
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The Buffalo Sabres have won four straight games and are now just three points back in the race for the final wild-card spot in the Eastern Conference. As a result, they’ve become an intriguing team to monitor at the trade deadline. General manager Kevyn Adams has the cap space, draft picks and prospect pool to swing a deal if he chooses.

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This week, The Athletic’s Pierre LeBrun reported that the Sabres are among the teams that have called the San Jose Sharks about winger Timo Meier.

Meier is a legitimate top-line talent who is in the middle of the best season of his NHL career. After putting up 76 points in 77 games a year ago, Meier has 48 points through 49 games this season. At just 26 years old, he should have plenty of prime seasons left. He’s a big body at 6-foot-1 and 220 pounds and uses that size to drive play and create scoring opportunities. Meier leads the NHL in shots (153) and shot attempts (293) at five-on-five, according to Natural Stat Trick. He’s also in the top two in rush attempts, rebounds created and individual high-danger chances created at five-on-five. He’s also not a liability on defense. The Sharks have 58 percent of the expected goals and 65 percent of the high-danger scoring chances when Meier is on the ice.



It’s clear Meier can dominate at five-on-five, but he’s also scored 12 power-play goals this year and could be an asset there for the Sabres. Right now, the Sabres have a top line that they may not want to juggle. Tage Thompson, Jeff Skinner and Alex Tuch have shown dynamic chemistry throughout the season and have been productive. Meier, though, could be the perfect addition to a line with Dylan Cozens. Cozens has been playing between rookie Jack Quinn and JJ Peterka. That line had some major bright moments early in the season, but Quinn and Peterka have both hit rookie plateaus at various points in the year. Meier would instantly make the Sabres’ top six more dangerous.

Meier is 26 years old, so he should still have plenty of prime seasons left in him. He’s also a restricted free agent after the season, not an unrestricted free agent. That would give any team that trades for him control over him for next season. He’s currently due to get a qualifying offer of $10 million next season. But any team that trades for him would likely want assurance that he would be willing to sign a long-term extension. LeBrun reports that he’s going to want at least $9 million annually. The Athletic’s Dom Luszczyszyn calculates his market value at $10.8 million. Had he been a free agent last offseason, Evolving Hockey projected an eight-year contract worth $8.2 million annually. So the $9 million figure LeBrun reported is a logical ask from Meier’s camp.

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The Sabres are flush with cap space, so that’s not an issue. But Adams has been adamant about not making moves that would disrupt the long-term vision he and Don Granato have for this team. Buffalo may have a ton of salary cap space to work with, but Adams also has some big contracts coming up. Cozens will command an extension that could push $8 million per year. Rasmus Dahlin could get a deal in the neighborhood of $10 million per year. Next year is the final year of Owen Power’s entry-level deal, and he could be in for a hefty raise if he progresses at his current rate.

If the Sabres were to trade for Meier, they need to factor in those future contracts to figure out where he would fit in the big picture. That cap space is going to dry up quickly, and there’s no guarantee that the salary cap will go up substantially in the next few years.

Meier’s contract isn’t the only cost the Sabres need to consider, either. Given his age and production, the Sharks aren’t going to trade Meier for too cheap. They don’t need to be in a rush to make a deal. He’s a restricted free agent, so the Sharks could wait until the draft if they aren’t getting an offer they like.

The closest and most recent comparable to a Meier trade would be the Alex DeBrincat deal Chicago and Ottawa made last summer. The Blackhawks traded DeBrincat to the Senators for the No. 7 overall pick, the No. 39 overall pick and a 2023 second-round pick. DeBrincat was younger at the time of the trade than Meier is now. He also had an extra year on his contract. But that’s probably the jumping-off point.

The Sabres have a deep pool of prospects and young NHL players who could be included in such a trade. Jiri Kulich and Isak Rosen are attractive trade chips in Rochester. It may take one or both to get a deal done in addition to a first-round pick.

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Ultimately, Adams will have a tough time justifying a trade if he can’t also sign Meier to a long-term contract. He has been steadfast in his belief that the best way for the Sabres to build this team is through drafting and developing their own players. Eventually, he will have to supplement that with free-agent and trade additions. But when he does so, he doesn’t want to do it at the expense of being able to sign those rising young players to the market-level extensions they’ve earned.

Because the Sabres are making a strong push for the playoffs, Adams will naturally feel an increased temptation to make a trade. This franchise has an 11-year playoff drought, and breaking that would not only be good for business, but it would also be tremendous experience for such a young roster. Is this the time to make a push or will Adams opt to continue along the more patient path and let this roster grow from within?

2 year 5.5 per extension
- homiedclown

If you were VO, would you take a 2 year deal over hitting free agency?

they lost in the finals


tampa still had the 7th best record last year and came off of winning 2 cups

let's not act like they snuck in as the 8th seed and got bounced in 4 games
- homiedclown

You're absolutely right, and that's my point. The entire roster matters. In previous years they had fantastic players on the 3rd and 4th line. Once they didn't they fell short. Still a very very very good team but not the same team they were. The stars are all still there.

If you were VO, would you take a 2 year deal over hitting free agency?
- Lunaion

if he likes it here, maybe


look at what lawson, beasley and philips did for the bills

can you post a link?


either thread will work


- homiedclown

Don't think I can find the leafs one, Augello posts every freakin day

Don't think I can find the leafs one, Augello posts every freakin day
- DirtyDan

the date?


throw me a freakin bone

Here's a good one from Duffer on Sabres live today.

From the day Vic broke his 31-game goalless streak last year all the way through last night was exactly 82-games for Vic.

He has 38 goals in that span
He has 11 GWG in that span (4th in the NHL)

For $5 million that's a helluva deal
- lacaprup

Fvck Duffer...Here's your take away:
DON GRANATO

Don is the Perfect Coach for this roster...
Developing a TEAM, changing a CULTURE.
Best years of their careers enjoyed by the extended Core of Tage, Skinner, Tuch, Cozens, Dahlin, Power, Sammy, UPL, Jost, Krebs

You're absolutely right, and that's my point. The entire roster matters. In previous years they had fantastic players on the 3rd and 4th line. Once they didn't they fell short. Still a very very very good team but not the same team they were. The stars are all still there.
- Slump Buster

and if cirelli didn't get hurt in game 5, it could have been a different outcome

You're absolutely right, and that's my point. The entire roster matters. In previous years they had fantastic players on the 3rd and 4th line. Once they didn't they fell short. Still a very very very good team but not the same team they were. The stars are all still there.
- Slump Buster

Except Brayden Point. Like come on man.

What do you think made a bigger difference, Point’s injury or having a worse 3rd line?

the date?


throw me a freakin bone
- homiedclown

I don't keep a log book like some ppl here.

Give me a minute

I don't keep a log book like some ppl here.

Give me a minute
- DirtyDan

Slacker

How about Girgensons? You can find 100 players in the league making 500k-1mil less that provide the same value or greater than he does

Vinny Hinostroza was an awful, awful 1.7 mil investment. You can find guys on 2-way deals to score 0 goals

Those small overpayments add up to a high end player throughout the roster
- sbroads24

Notice you left out paying Bryson nearly $2M per for 2 seasons.

How did he warrant that kind of deal?

Except Brayden Point. Like come on man.

What do you think made a bigger difference, Point’s injury or having a worse 3rd line?
- sbroads24

It all mattered. Do I think Tampa wins if Point is healthy? No, I think Colorado was still going to win. Does Tampa win if they had the roster they had previously? Yeah, I think they do. You scoff at the third and fourth lines but the reality is that they often get matched up against the other team's stars. How could that not matter?

anyone on here use supersonic streams? its an IPTV service...

if he likes it here, maybe


look at what lawson, beasley and philips did for the bills
- homiedclown

Maybe, little different world without guaranteed contracts.

the date?


throw me a freakin bone
- homiedclown

January 11th Blog. Page 15 on the 12th of January.

January 11th Blog. Page 15 on the 12th of January.
- DirtyDan

Now see if you can find it in Eklund's.

Notice you left out paying Bryson nearly $2M per for 2 seasons.

How did he warrant that kind of deal?
- kingcong39

Pictures at 11:00

Now see if you can find it in Eklund's.
- Hatboro_Swords

Here you go!!! He went to Eklund with it!!!

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...read_id=182088&forum_id=1

Notice you left out paying Bryson nearly $2M per for 2 seasons.

How did he warrant that kind of deal?
- kingcong39

Forgot about him. Another good example