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MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Feb 2 @ 4:29 PM ET
Would you guys be ok with Fitz selling off a bunch of 1sr rounders, Holtz and prospects if we ended up with a cup this year? Or would you prefer the slow, steady approach?

EK65, Timo and Reilly all become Devils. But for cap reasons, multiple teams need to join in to eat up cap, meaning we'd hemorrhage our future, but a cup was guaranteed this year.

Would you do it?

- Leniwm1


If we ended up with a Cup, of course. Most of our talent is young and signed, so I think we’ll be okay without Holtz, Stillman, Russian etc.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Feb 2 @ 7:44 PM ET
Would you guys be ok with Fitz selling off a bunch of 1sr rounders, Holtz and prospects if we ended up with a cup this year? Or would you prefer the slow, steady approach?

EK65, Timo and Reilly all become Devils. But for cap reasons, multiple teams need to join in to eat up cap, meaning we'd hemorrhage our future, but a cup was guaranteed this year.

Would you do it?

- Leniwm1

Maybe definitely but likely uncertain
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Feb 3 @ 4:42 PM ET
I really think we need to be “reckless and dumb” and go all-in for Meier. If they want Holtz give them Holtz. If Meier was 30 I’d feel different but the man is 26. If Bratt needs 9, give him freaking 9. Is he worth 10? Now we’re talking 2mil more per year than I think his value is. I think our cap will be pretty tight with Meier and Bratt; especially in a few years, so that 2mil or even 1mil is significant. Maybe another player we need to bring back (like Vanecek) will want an extra 1-2m, but since we overpay Bratt we can’t do it. It all comes from the same pool... but we really can’t lose Bratt for nothing. And Meier is exactly what this team needs to be a contender and not a hopeful bunch of kids with a sprinkle of Dougie Hamilton and Palat.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 3 @ 7:15 PM ET
Here I was thinking the trade deadline was in a week or two

We have a month of Meier watch
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Feb 3 @ 7:53 PM ET
Trying so hard to get into this but it’s pretty pathetic so far.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Feb 4 @ 5:32 PM ET
Color me impressed with fall out boy there. He was actually singing, and better than I thought, despite that last song being taxing for anyone. Drums were live too. You could tell he was focusing on staying locked-in with the track. I think the guitar and bass were also live. Orchestra.. who knows. But I’ve seen way worse televised “live” performances
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Feb 4 @ 7:12 PM ET
Nice write up by Larry Brooks on Jack

https://nypost.com/2023/0...-with-areas-past-phenoms/
DevilDogDez
New Jersey Devils
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 08.10.2010

Feb 5 @ 11:22 AM ET
Is woo done writing on hockeybuzz? If not, he has been having some long stretches in between post.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Feb 5 @ 2:04 PM ET
John Marino is back at practice in a regular practice jersey today.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Feb 5 @ 5:58 PM ET
Give me Meier or give me fire
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 5 @ 6:01 PM ET
Wonder if horvats deal will have any difference on Meier's next contract
RubberBiscuitz
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.12.2011

Feb 5 @ 9:52 PM ET
Sharks trade Megna for a 4th round pick. Now they are at 49 contracts. Gotta think Fitz wants this done sooner than later.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 5 @ 11:03 PM ET
Sharks trade Megna for a 4th round pick. Now they are at 49 contracts. Gotta think Fitz wants this done sooner than later.
- RubberBiscuitz

Seeing as we need to send a deadweight contract back (Wood/Johnsson/etc.) we might need a 3rd team to facilitate taking on a contract if the Sharks don't move another body soon.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Feb 5 @ 11:21 PM ET
Seeing as we need to send a deadweight contract back (Wood/Johnsson/etc.) we might need a 3rd team to facilitate taking on a contract if the Sharks don't move another body soon.
- Pomegrant


If Sharangovich would end up going the other way as a ton of people propose, no cap dump is required to fit Meier.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Feb 5 @ 11:30 PM ET
If Sharangovich would end up going the other way as a ton of people propose, no cap dump is required to fit Meier.
- vlongo4419


What site do you use for this kind of stuff? I usually look at the numbers on hockeybuzz. It's showing we have just a hair over 2M in space.. and Sharangovich is 2M and Holtz 894k. That totals to about 5mil, and Meier is 6.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Feb 5 @ 11:31 PM ET
What site do you use for this kind of stuff? I usually look at the numbers on hockeybuzz. It's showing we have just a hair over 2M in space.. and Sharangovich is 2M and Holtz 894k. That totals to about 5mil, and Meier is 6.
- MartysBetter88


Meiers caphit will be pro-rated. If the trade happened today his caphit would be somewhere in the 2-3M range(I don't feel like doing all that math lol) and it would get slightly less and less the closer the trade happens to deadline day.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Feb 6 @ 12:00 AM ET
Meiers caphit will be pro-rated. If the trade happened today his caphit would be somewhere in the 2-3M range(I don't feel like doing all that math lol) and it would get slightly less and less the closer the trade happens to deadline day.
- vlongo4419

is that how it always is with trades? is this any different because hes an RFA next year?
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Feb 6 @ 12:01 AM ET
is that how it always is with trades? is this any different because hes an RFA next year?
- MartysBetter88


It's how mid-season trades always are. Doesn't have anything to do with expiry status. Like Beauvillier for instance, who was in the Horvat trade, has a 4.15M cap hit but his prorated daily cap hit for the rest of the season for the Canucks is 1.66M.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Feb 6 @ 12:04 AM ET
It's how mid-season trades always are. Doesn't have anything to do with expiry status. Like Beauvillier for instance, who was in the Horvat trade, has a 4.15M cap hit but his prorated daily cap hit for the rest of the season for the Canucks is 1.66M.
- vlongo4419


interesting. I never knew. thanks
RubberBiscuitz
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.12.2011

Feb 6 @ 8:35 AM ET
That’s why so many deals happen on trade deadline day. Saves money.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Feb 6 @ 10:06 AM ET
I was thinking of the idea of abolishing the trade deadline.

Teams can make trades 24/7/365, yes even in the playoffs, meaning teams desperate to fill a hole in the playoffs will overpay, but it could get them the cup.

Is there a legit reason why there is a deadline? Because a trade freeze is only a few months (deadline to after the playoffs) so just get rid of that and there is potential for excitement from the fans perspective at any time.

If a team is willing to overpay in the playoffs, its their choice.

Teams that have an expiring UFA can hold on to him longer and potentially get assets come playoff time.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 6 @ 10:17 AM ET
sam. come on.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Feb 6 @ 10:27 AM ET
John Marino is back at practice in a regular practice jersey today.
- vlongo4419


His return is key to getting our defense back to its peak early season form
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Feb 6 @ 10:40 AM ET
Marino confirmed back tonight. Lines:

Palat-Nico-Bratt
Sharangovich-Jack-Zetterlund
Tatar-Haula-Mercer
Wood-McLeod-Bastian

Siegs-Dougie
Graves-Sevo
Smith-Marino

VV
hockeybocc
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 09.09.2014

Feb 6 @ 10:43 AM ET
Marino confirmed back tonight. Lines:

Palat-Nico-Bratt
Sharangovich-Jack-Zetterlund
Tatar-Haula-Mercer
Wood-McLeod-Bastian

Siegs-Dougie
Graves-Sevo
Smith-Marino

VV

- vlongo4419

Really like these lines and it is great to see Marino back in there. Really rounds out the blueline.

Has anyone done a wellness check on WOO?
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