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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:31 PM ET

- Wildschwein



Hell That was said when he was hired
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jan 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
I can't handle another tear down heck some of us may be in the grave by the time that's over with. If ek says tiemo meier then he's a Ranger for sure
- Upstate_isles


Probably not. Don't have the cap to extend him so he would purely be a crazy ass expensive rental.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
True. Hence why I only said “made available”.

Personally, I’d rather the Islanders just do an aggressive retool.

1) Move Mayfield to a contender. Retain coin to get the max return. The demand for his services at that cost will be VERY HIGH.

2) Move Nelson and Varlamov for picks and prospects.

3) If Meier is open to coming (and staying) to the Island, make the 2023 1st available. Attempt to unload Bailey while you do it. If Meier ain’t available, keep the pick.

4) Move Pageau up to 2C. He’s more than capable.

5) Play Holmstrom, Räty, Salo and Bolduc. Give them meaningful minutes this year, and get a sense of what you have in them.

6) Unload whatever other dead weight you can. Keep the core of Barzal, Pageau, Dobson, Sorokin, Romanov, Pelech and Pulock. Build around them.

7) Probably suffer in the standings this year and next. Be competitive again come 2025.

- Wildschwein

I do very much like the idea of retaining half of Mayfield this year. That'd make his cap hit basically a veteran minimum deal. Don't think it gets us a 1st this year but it would definitely maximize the return.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
They were TERRIBLE during that stretch while Pelech was out. If that season hadn't stopped for Covid, they wouldn't have finished anywhere near the playoffs. There's unquestionably a huge unknown in this situation but just adding a big scorer to your top line takes pressure and attention off of your second and third lines. It can change everything. Getting Pelech back will already give them a big boost. Unfortunately I think it will be one where they just narrowly miss the playoffs. Adding a guy like Meier could definitely change the whole dynamic. I'm not 100% sure I'm on board with doing it, but I'm also not sure it would be the disaster some are concerned of
- keaner17


The pause and bubble changed everything though. Full credit to the Islanders, but they played some flawed teams during the run not Tampa and the Canes. This year seems very different with the schedule and talent in the East. To be fair, the team struggled with Pelech this year. I cannot believe I rather not make a Timo move, but it does not seem to be the time and the price has to be huge.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
Probably not. Don't have the cap to extend him so he would purely be a crazy ass expensive rental.
- mdw7413


mdw?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jan 19 @ 1:36 PM ET
mdw?

- ses111

His ghost
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 19 @ 1:36 PM ET
Hell That was said when he was hired
- nyisles7


True. And he proved us wrong.

But alas, the team hath moved on.

And I also REALLY wanna see Bedard in an Islander uniform.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 19 @ 1:39 PM ET
Probably not. Don't have the cap to extend him so he would purely be a crazy ass expensive rental.
- mdw7413


ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 19 @ 1:40 PM ET
True. And he proved us wrong.

But alas, the team hath moved on.

And I also REALLY wanna see Bedard in an Islander uniform.

- Wildschwein


I'm not sure the last two years would classify as Lou going for it though.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 19 @ 1:40 PM ET
True. And he proved us wrong.

But alas, the team hath moved on.

And I also REALLY wanna see Bedard in an Islander uniform.

- Wildschwein

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jan 19 @ 1:40 PM ET

- Wildschwein



Hiya piggy
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 19 @ 1:41 PM ET

- Wildschwein

It's only his ghost.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 19 @ 1:41 PM ET
His ghost
- mdw7413



Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 19 @ 1:45 PM ET


Hiya piggy

- mdw7413




Hai…
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 19 @ 1:45 PM ET
It's only his ghost.
- JohnScammo


keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: REJECTED REFEREE
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jan 19 @ 1:46 PM ET
The pause and bubble changed everything though. Full credit to the Islanders, but they played some flawed teams during the run not Tampa and the Canes. This year seems very different with the schedule and talent in the East. To be fair, the team struggled with Pelech this year. I cannot believe I rather not make a Timo move, but it does not seem to be the time and the price has to be huge.
- ses111


When Pelech got hurt we were one point out of second place in the division. We had the fifth least goals against in the league. We weren't burning the place down, but with a guy like Timo I'd bet we would have been within 3-4 points behind NJ as opposed to 9.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jan 19 @ 1:47 PM ET
It's only his ghost.
- JohnScammo

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 19 @ 1:49 PM ET
When Pelech got hurt we were one point out of second place in the division. We had the fifth least goals against in the league. We weren't burning the place down, but with a guy like Timo I'd bet we would have been within 3-4 points behind NJ as opposed to 9.
- keaner17


I just do not believe in this roster to get past the elite teams in the East even with Timo. The team cannot even stick up for their teammates.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:50 PM ET
True. And he proved us wrong.

But alas, the team hath moved on.

And I also REALLY wanna see Bedard in an Islander uniform.

- Wildschwein



Barzal for this years first to start the convo?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 19 @ 1:54 PM ET
Barzal for this years first to start the convo?
- nyisles7


No, no, no.

You keep the core, trade some vets and play the kids. That alone could put the Islanders into the lottery.

Or it’ll reinvigorate the team and they’ll make the playoffs. Who the hell knows? 😂
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 19 @ 2:00 PM ET


Hiya piggy

- mdw7413

Your GF is on here?
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 19 @ 2:01 PM ET
True.

The counter argument though, is that adding him now might be the move that puts you in that group a couple years from now.

- Wildschwein


Exactly, it checks off one of the boxes. Meir is not the savior but he is a young player that this team could get a solid 5 years out of.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: REJECTED REFEREE
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jan 19 @ 2:13 PM ET
From
@FriedgeHNIC
on the Jeff Marek Show (with @Mattymar89) on Toews trade value:
“I think they’re looking at a 2nd or 3rd round pick. That’s what a couple teams have told me.”

Also say he believes Timo Meier & Bo Horvat go first to set the forward market.


JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 19 @ 2:14 PM ET

- Wildschwein

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 19 @ 2:15 PM ET
No, no, no.

You keep the core, trade some vets and play the kids. That alone could put the Islanders into the lottery.

Or it’ll reinvigorate the team and they’ll make the playoffs. Who the hell knows? 😂

- Wildschwein



Gotta think it’s gonna start with Barzal or there’s no chance.
I wouldn’t do it either. Islanders need a tweak and Mier would be a good start.
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