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Forums :: Blog World :: Ben Shelley: Is adding Nazem Kadri the right move for the Islanders?
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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Let’s Go Branden, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 7 @ 9:43 AM ET

- Wildschwein




Yes I agree. You Sir I know are a gentleman.
chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

Aug 7 @ 10:18 AM ET
I just read Kadri is looking for 9 million per year. Screw that.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 7 @ 10:58 AM ET
I just read Kadri is looking for 9 million per year. Screw that.
- chazpet

Jesus

Hopefully that’s BS because if we sign him for that it’ll be a disaster on multiple levels. Brings my back to whoever said;
“He deserves every penny.”

Wowza
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Let’s Go Branden, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 7 @ 11:07 AM ET
I just read Kadri is looking for 9 million per year. Screw that.
- chazpet



That would explain why he’s not signed then.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 7 @ 11:11 AM ET
Jesus

Hopefully that’s BS because if we sign him for that it’ll be a disaster on multiple levels. Brings my back to whoever said;
“He deserves every penny.”

Wowza

- Cptmjl



Wonder if Kadri will be bring some of his friends from Colorado?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Let’s Go Branden, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 7 @ 11:41 AM ET
Wonder if Kadri will be bring some of his friends from Colorado?

- ses111



Makar please !
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

Aug 7 @ 12:56 PM ET
Jesus

Hopefully that’s BS because if we sign him for that it’ll be a disaster on multiple levels. Brings my back to whoever said;
“He deserves every penny.”

Wowza

- Cptmjl


Or it's a ploy to stop teams from calling because he's already signed.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Aug 7 @ 1:11 PM ET
Or it's a ploy to stop teams from calling because he's already signed.
- PeteM

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 7 @ 1:14 PM ET
Or it's a ploy to stop teams from calling because he's already signed.
- PeteM

If he’s asking for 9 million per hopefully we didn’t sign him and stopped calling.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Aug 7 @ 3:10 PM ET
I just read Kadri is looking for 9 million per year. Screw that.
- chazpet


maximumcarnage
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.23.2007

Aug 7 @ 9:09 PM ET
Jesus

Hopefully that’s BS because if we sign him for that it’ll be a disaster on multiple levels. Brings my back to whoever said;
“He deserves every penny.”

Wowza

- Cptmjl

I can’t imagine any team signing him for that price
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 8 @ 7:27 AM ET
Not a big fan of this site but for those that are in favor of Barzal shifting to the wing this supports your side…


https://nyihockeynow.com/...ihD1j40T_p753rH8PZkxf13sE
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Aug 8 @ 8:02 AM ET
I dont think its an advantage for Canadian teams....in fact I think its the opposite. They had to get creative (i.e frontloading) in order to be competitive. Look at Gaudreau, and Tkatchuk.....they got outta Canada as soon as they could. Given the option, most NHLers are opting for an American team vs a Canadian. Even with the bonus contracts, you still have a 1-1.30 dollar differential
- kindlyrick


They don't have to Frontload them.. look at Marner's contract. He gets a Bonus every year and then a minimum Salary instead of a signing bonus.

Gaudreau left b/c of the absurd travel policies and He is about to have a child and his wife wanted her family to be able to come see the kid. I have no idea why Matt left.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Aug 8 @ 8:04 AM ET
That would be an interesting idea. But lets say a player gets a year deal worth $70m (after taxes) from the Isles. Then after 3 years he gets traded to, say, Vegas. How would that work (tax-wise)? How does that change the cap hit? Would it now be the entire contract including the taxes that were taken out? I like the idea, just not sure how it would work.
- Isleshockeyman


Very good point.. and no friggin clue is my answer.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Aug 8 @ 8:09 AM ET
Very good point.. and no friggin clue is my answer.
- niteislander



Fair.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Aug 8 @ 8:09 AM ET
Not a big fan of this site but for those that are in favor of Barzal shifting to the wing this supports your side…


https://nyihockeynow.com/...ihD1j40T_p753rH8PZkxf13sE

- Cptmjl


Very good read and I agree with it.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 8 @ 8:52 AM ET
Very good read and I agree with it.
- niteislander

Everything sounds like a good idea till you do it and it doesn’t work.

If Kadri is signed there’s going to be some shuffling unless there’s a center being moved out. There’s been quite a bit of speculation of exactly that but like everything else Islander related that’s all it is, speculation. Nobody has any idea in all reality. If Lameriello doesn’t have any real leads on moving out salary moving a center is probably the easiest path. I don’t agree with it in any sense. If any one of our centers is moved out to accommodate Kadri, to me it becomes a lateral move at best. Maybe even worse depending on who that center is. Trading from a position that is currently a strength of ours doesn’t exactly sit well with me.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 8 @ 9:08 AM ET
So since you all think I am nuts and Vukota things I drink in the mornings. Bourbon would be choice...How about this little diddy.

If in fact Lou has signed Kadri.

Trade Barzal to the Bruins for Pastrnak

Boston is looking for a #1 center. Pasta is making 6.6 and is UFA next year.

Send Bailey and #1 to whoever will take him.

Isles have 400k in cap space.

Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Aug 8 @ 9:10 AM ET
Everything sounds like a good idea till you do it and it doesn’t work.

If Kadri is signed there’s going to be some shuffling unless there’s a center being moved out. There’s been quite a bit of speculation of exactly that but like everything else Islander related that’s all it is, speculation. Nobody has any idea in all reality. If Lameriello doesn’t have any real leads on moving out salary moving a center is probably the easiest path. I don’t agree with it in any sense. If any one of our centers is moved out to accommodate Kadri, to me it becomes a lateral move at best. Maybe even worse depending on who that center is. Trading from a position that is currently a strength of ours doesn’t exactly sit well with me.

- Cptmjl



I think if Lou made a trade, it would be announced. Don't both sides file? Unless of course Lou asked a team not to file yet. But you're absolutely right, none of us have any idea what's going on right now.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 8 @ 9:38 AM ET
I think if Lou made a trade, it would be announced. Don't both sides file? Unless of course Lou asked a team not to file yet. But you're absolutely right, none of us have any idea what's going on right now.
- Isleshockeyman

I’m not saying he made a trade already. I’m saying he’s trying to make one if we are actually signing Kadri.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 8 @ 11:02 AM ET
I’m not saying he made a trade already. I’m saying he’s trying to make one if we are actually signing Kadri.
- Cptmjl


The only way that makes sense is if Lou is working multiple teams to pull off the deal because everyone including Kamala Harris knows what Lou is trying to do. And we all know how intelligent the vice president is.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Aug 8 @ 11:12 AM ET
I’m not saying he made a trade already. I’m saying he’s trying to make one if we are actually signing Kadri.
- Cptmjl



I know you're not saying he already made a trade. My point, albeit poorly worded, was more of a question about trades in general. As in, if Lou has made a trade, wouldn't it be reported to the league office? Does Lou have the ability to hold off reporting trades to the league office? If he has made a trade and is waiting, the other team, at Lou's request, would need to stay silent about a trade as well. I'm just not sure how soon a trade needs to be in to the league office for approval or if Lou can keep it in his pocket.
Maybe ha has made a trade and is looking to make more moves. Maybe he's sitting on the beach sipping pina coladas. Who the hell knows. Certainly not us.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Aug 8 @ 11:18 AM ET
The only way that makes sense is if Lou is working multiple teams to pull off the deal because everyone including Kamala Harris knows what Lou is trying to do. And we all know how intelligent the vice president is.
- Nfdbulldawg



You're right. Everyone knows what he is trying to do, if he did in fact sign Kadri. If you're a GM and Lou calls looking to make a trade, you know what's going on. Maybe since Lou knows that other GM's know what he's trying to do, he's trying to not get bent over a barrel.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 8 @ 11:33 AM ET
I know you're not saying he already made a trade. My point, albeit poorly worded, was more of a question about trades in general. As in, if Lou has made a trade, wouldn't it be reported to the league office? Does Lou have the ability to hold off reporting trades to the league office? If he has made a trade and is waiting, the other team, at Lou's request, would need to stay silent about a trade as well. I'm just not sure how soon a trade needs to be in to the league office for approval or if Lou can keep it in his pocket.
Maybe ha has made a trade and is looking to make more moves. Maybe he's sitting on the beach sipping pina coladas. Who the hell knows. Certainly not us.

- Isleshockeyman

He may have deals in place with other teams pending league approval. If he’s signing Kadri I’m sure he does. I’m not going to make pretend I actually know but I assume a trade isn’t announced till it’s approved by the league and whatever team(s) he may have something going on with are keeping it quiet. It doesn’t do them any favors to leak anything out until it’s finalized.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 8 @ 11:34 AM ET
You're right. Everyone knows what he is trying to do, if he did in fact sign Kadri. If you're a GM and Lou calls looking to make a trade, you know what's going on. Maybe since Lou knows that other GM's know what he's trying to do, he's trying to not get bent over a barrel.
- Isleshockeyman

But if they know what he’s trying to do already(of course they do the whole world knows) it’s not going to make a damn bit a difference
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