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Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 5 @ 9:08 AM ET
Good for Calgary getting Huberdeau signed for 8 years

they couldn't bare the blow of losing him too next summer

- jimbro83


10.5 per for 8yrs, for a 30yo.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Fire Gallant, NY
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 5 @ 9:19 AM ET
10.5 per for 8yrs, for a 30yo.
- Brukie



That's pretty nutty. Damn Calgary "Tax".
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 5 @ 9:26 AM ET
10.5 per for 8yrs, for a 30yo.
- Brukie


its definitely a lot, but I think considering everything that happened to them this summer, I think they had to do it

I dont think Calgary cares too much about 5 years now

they need a new building and to keep winning
newenglandpuck
New York Rangers
Location: Southern, CT
Joined: 05.08.2013

Aug 5 @ 10:10 AM ET
Minnesota has 12.7 million in dead cap space this coming season due to the Parise and Suter buyouts


they arent on the list, but Brad Richards is the reason we are LOL?

- jimbro83


Sorry I'm a day late but Kreider's deal until last season looked bad, Trouba's deal bad, Overpayment on Goodrow, is there anyone other than Igor that plays above their cap hit that isn't on an ELC? This list is about getting the most bang for your buck on contracts signed, and let's be honest we're terrible at that.

Minnesota has Kaprizov at a cap hit of like 2.6 million less than Panarin. Zucc one of their better players only takes up 7.3% of their cap, so I can see how this Penguins homer put us on there and it's the reason we complain about guys cap hit's all the time.

Saw a funny stat though about Pittsburgh, last time a 1st round draft pick of theirs made a debut with them was 2012.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 5 @ 10:16 AM ET
Sorry I'm a day late but Kreider's deal until last season looked bad, Trouba's deal bad, Overpayment on Goodrow, is there anyone other than Igor that plays above their cap hit that isn't on an ELC? This list is about getting the most bang for your buck on contracts signed, and let's be honest we're terrible at that.

Minnesota has Kaprizov at a cap hit of like 2.6 million less than Panarin. Zucc one of their better players only takes up 7.3% of their cap, so I can see how this Penguins homer put us on there and it's the reason we complain about guys cap hit's all the time.

Saw a funny stat though about Pittsburgh, last time a 1st round draft pick of theirs made a debut with them was 2012.

- newenglandpuck


I think Kreider probably is now one of most underpaid players in the league, it's totally reversed

but yeah, the list has nothing to do with buyouts, it's based on bang for the buck of the current players on the cap, somebody here tried to turn it into a contract buyout thing which it isn't or obviously Minnesota would be at the top
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 5 @ 10:17 AM ET
its definitely a lot, but I think considering everything that happened to them this summer, I think they had to do it

I dont think Calgary cares too much about 5 years now

they need a new building and to keep winning

- jimbro83


They lost their two best players and replaced them with a guy who isn't as good as either of them but also older than both.

They're not winning. The building is getting built regardless.


jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 5 @ 10:20 AM ET
They lost their two best players and replaced them with a guy who isn't as good as either of them but also older than both.

They're not winning. The building is getting built regardless.

- BINGO!


I think Huberdeau is really good

he's gonna get heat these days just like Panarin because he had a terrible series vs Tampa
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 5 @ 11:20 AM ET
Sorry I'm a day late but Kreider's deal until last season looked bad, Trouba's deal bad, Overpayment on Goodrow, is there anyone other than Igor that plays above their cap hit that isn't on an ELC? This list is about getting the most bang for your buck on contracts signed, and let's be honest we're terrible at that.

Minnesota has Kaprizov at a cap hit of like 2.6 million less than Panarin. Zucc one of their better players only takes up 7.3% of their cap, so I can see how this Penguins homer put us on there and it's the reason we complain about guys cap hit's all the time.

Saw a funny stat though about Pittsburgh, last time a 1st round draft pick of theirs made a debut with them was 2012.

- newenglandpuck

Will give my views in a blog but hard to compare Kaprizov and Panarin given ages and when their deals were signed. Plus one was a true free agent and was basically an RFA with specters of going home a major driver, which helped his value. But he wants getting 11.6 mil per
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 5 @ 11:24 AM ET
Will give my views in a blog but hard to compare Kaprizov and Panarin given ages and when their deals were signed. Plus one was a true free agent and was basically an RFA with specters of going home a major driver, which helped his value. But he wants getting 11.6 mil per
- airjan23


yep, and if Rangers didnt go that high with Panarin, he was going to the Islanders, another part of this
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 5 @ 11:29 AM ET
Will give my views in a blog but hard to compare Kaprizov and Panarin given ages and when their deals were signed. Plus one was a true free agent and was basically an RFA with specters of going home a major driver, which helped his value. But he wants getting 11.6 mil per
- airjan23


If Panarin produces in the playoffs and we win the Cup then the 11.6 is a good deal, if he doesnt produce and we still win the Cup, Its still a good deal. If he doesnt produce and we dont win the Cup, he will just be another Rick Nash.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 5 @ 11:34 AM ET
If Panarin produces in the playoffs and we win the Cup then the 11.6 is a good deal, if he doesnt produce and we still win the Cup, Its still a good deal. If he doesnt produce and we dont win the Cup, he will just be another Rick Nash.
- Brukie


Nash's regular seasons were never in the same stratosphere as Panarin's though

and Nash only scoring 3 goals in the 2014 playoff run was such a killer, especially in the finals vs the Kings when they were so desperate for a goal in those overtimes


nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 5 @ 12:29 PM ET
Nash's regular seasons were never in the same stratosphere as Panarin's though

and Nash only scoring 3 goals in the 2014 playoff run was such a killer, especially in the finals vs the Kings when they were so desperate for a goal in those overtimes

- jimbro83


Nash was never scoring the goal Panarin did in OT against the Pens. Panarin has had good playoffs in the past. Last year was weak, he should bounce back
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 5 @ 12:31 PM ET
Nash's regular seasons were never in the same stratosphere as Panarin's though

and Nash only scoring 3 goals in the 2014 playoff run was such a killer, especially in the finals vs the Kings when they were so desperate for a goal in those overtimes

- jimbro83


Like I had said before, what does it matter if Panarin scores 100 points per year for the rest of the contract and he doesnt produce in the playoffs or we dont win a Cup. Hopefully he can figure out playoff hockey. I think a line of Panarin, Vinny and Laf would open up the ice for him and he could wind up producing big.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 5 @ 12:39 PM ET
Like I had said before, what does it matter if Panarin scores 100 points per year for the rest of the contract and he doesnt produce in the playoffs or we dont win a Cup. Hopefully he can figure out playoff hockey. I think a line of Panarin, Vinny and Laf would open up the ice for him and he could wind up producing big.
- Brukie

He was far from dominant in the playoffs, especially versus the regular season. Yet his numbers were not horrible, which reflects his talent. He just never seemed too get going in the postseason, finding out why is the key
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Aug 5 @ 12:51 PM ET
He was far from dominant in the playoffs, especially versus the regular season. Yet his numbers were not horrible, which reflects his talent. He just never seemed too get going in the postseason, finding out why is the key
- airjan23


He was playing with 1/2 a center. That's hard to do in the playoffs
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 5 @ 1:01 PM ET
He was far from dominant in the playoffs, especially versus the regular season. Yet his numbers were not horrible, which reflects his talent. He just never seemed too get going in the postseason, finding out why is the key
- airjan23


I think with Strome being his hot/cold self and then playing hurt contributed to Panarins weak numbers. He had less space and smothered. I think with Vinny and Laf they will open up the ice a little bit for him.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn
Joined: 06.17.2010

Aug 5 @ 1:27 PM ET
I think with Strome being his hot/cold self and then playing hurt contributed to Panarins weak numbers. He had less space and smothered. I think with Vinny and Laf they will open up the ice a little bit for him.
- Brukie


Youre thinking LAF plays on that line rather than with Zib and Kreider? I could see Kravtsov on that line. Pair the Russian's together.

Trochek is definitely going to bring a different element to that line. He has been a pretty decent goal scorer in the past, and it just so happens GG was his coach in FLA when he was. As well as that, Vinny has a knack for being quite the agitator. He will definitely draw attention away from Panarin in multiple ways.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
Youre thinking LAF plays on that line rather than with Zib and Kreider? I could see Kravtsov on that line. Pair the Russian's together.

Trochek is definitely going to bring a different element to that line. He has been a pretty decent goal scorer in the past, and it just so happens GG was his coach in FLA when he was. As well as that, Vinny has a knack for being quite the agitator. He will definitely draw attention away from Panarin in multiple ways.

- aecliptic



Panarin playing with a guy that can win faceoffs is going to help a lot too

Panarin is gonna have a huge career yes provided he stays healthy, and they'll need it to get back to the playoffs
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 5 @ 2:43 PM ET
Youre thinking LAF plays on that line rather than with Zib and Kreider? I could see Kravtsov on that line. Pair the Russian's together.

Trochek is definitely going to bring a different element to that line. He has been a pretty decent goal scorer in the past, and it just so happens GG was his coach in FLA when he was. As well as that, Vinny has a knack for being quite the agitator. He will definitely draw attention away from Panarin in multiple ways.

- aecliptic


I dont have any idea what Kravs can do or not do. I wouldnt pencil Kravs in at first or second line.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 5 @ 2:46 PM ET
Panarin playing with a guy that can win faceoffs is going to help a lot too

Panarin is gonna have a huge career yes provided he stays healthy, and they'll need it to get back to the playoffs

- jimbro83


I dont think we will need a huge career year in order for the Rangers to make it back into the playoffs. Another 90 point season is good. There has to be upside from the younger players. If the kids improve this year, first place will look good.
gravey914
New York Rangers
Location: Yaphank, NY
Joined: 05.07.2010

Aug 5 @ 7:02 PM ET
Like I had said before, what does it matter if Panarin scores 100 points per year for the rest of the contract and he doesnt produce in the playoffs or we dont win a Cup. Hopefully he can figure out playoff hockey. I think a line of Panarin, Vinny and Laf would open up the ice for him and he could wind up producing big.
- Brukie

I always hate that excuse. Yes, it's the ultimate goal, but you can have success without reaching it. Otherwise, Gilbert, Hatfield, Ratelle, etc were all garbage players for the Rangers.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 5 @ 7:35 PM ET
I always hate that excuse. Yes, it's the ultimate goal, but you can have success without reaching it. Otherwise, Gilbert, Hatfield, Ratelle, etc were all garbage players for the Rangers.
- gravey914


Winning the Cup is the only success there is. Second place will always be the first loser.
gravey914
New York Rangers
Location: Yaphank, NY
Joined: 05.07.2010

Aug 5 @ 7:47 PM ET
Winning the Cup is the only success there is. Second place will always be the first loser.
- Brukie

So last year wasn't a success? The Rangers overachieved by most expectations. If you told me in September of '21 that the Rangers would make it to the conference finals, it'd think you were crazy. Just making the playoffs was a win in my book.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 5 @ 9:48 PM ET
So last year wasn't a success? The Rangers overachieved by most expectations. If you told me in September of '21 that the Rangers would make it to the conference finals, it'd think you were crazy. Just making the playoffs was a win in my book.
- gravey914


You must have a lot of participation trophies. Last year the Rangers had a good year, good growth but to say it was successful depends on what you think is successful.
gravey914
New York Rangers
Location: Yaphank, NY
Joined: 05.07.2010

Aug 5 @ 9:53 PM ET
You must have a lot of participation trophies. Last year the Rangers had a good year, good growth but to say it was successful depends on what you think is successful.
- Brukie

Why are you such a d!ck? The only thing you participate in is being a miserable pos.
May as well not watch any games until the Cup final, since that's all that matters.
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