True, it still took Kobe Bryant with the best Doctors and Physios 8 months before returning
- LAHawk

I can imagine especially with how athletes rely on that first step. I just found it interesting that they now sew a bridge brace on the tendon so you don't have to be in a cast for 3 months anymore, sounds like 5 weeks. I think they were extremely cautious with Durant since he signed a $200 million dollar contract

The thing with the Kraken as a potential trade partner is that they have a paltry prospect system. The only prospect I would want is someone they would never give up and that's Beniers.
- Theo Fox

Yup they only drafted once so far but, I think I mentioned I wanted RW Ryan Winterton, who I thought took a big jump this season with Hamilton:
20 goals, 46 points in 37 games and a really good playoff all around with 7 goals/19 points in 18 playoff games. He is more than 6' 2" 190 I think.
This was met draft profile for him last year;
A tall skinny winger who is an excellent stickhandler, balanced skater and puck battler with soft hands. Plays strong on the stick and gets his shots off even under heavy pressure, and his grit helps him bull to the front. Leans into his turns and finds open pockets escaping pressure. He is very hard to control. Possesses a strong anchor and wins pucks in the battle areas, the wall, and the front. A good stickhandler with great pace and draws the enemy close only to set up a look. Springs open to receive his teammates scoring passes. Was a member of the Canada’s 2021 IIHF Under-18 World Championship team where he stood out on the fourth line with smart play, hands and skill to effectively make a difference offensively without the flash of most of his teammates.

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Another thing to add about any possible return in a Debrincat trade - Stan Bowman is not the GM of the other team.

Another thing to add about any possible return in a Debrincat trade - Stan Bowman is not the GM of the other team.
- boilermaker100

So, you're saying Dinky for Saad is still a possibility?

Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Davidson said his next priority is to “acquire some future assets” for the Blackhawks and he has some “ideas as we head to Montreal next week” but they’re “not going to force anything.”

“We’re in a position where we are listening” to trade offers on everyone.

Take both contracts for Calgary’s first this year and a prospect or another draft pick. Both contracts expire after this season. If Calgary aren’t interested they don’t gain $11.5M in cap space, too bad so sad for them.
- paulr

It looking more and more like Gaudreau isn't gonna re-sign with the flames. They'll need their own picks and prospects. Tkachuk apparently wants out next year too.

Scott Powers had a jointly written article today in the Athletic with the Senators reporter on what a DeBrincat trade to Ottawa would look like. Here's what they ended up proposing.

Senators receive:
* Alex DeBrincat

Blackhawks receive:
* 2022 1st (7th overall)
* 2022 2nd (63rd overall)
* Ridly Greig
* Jacob Bernard-Docker
* Matt Murray (25% retained)

The pot would be sweetened for the Sens if DeBrincat signs a contract extension.

This trade proposal is pretty on point with what I would predict.

If the Hawks are able to get rid of some other contracts before this trade goes down, then they could sweeten the pot even more by taking on Murray's full cap hit. And if that's the case, upgrade the 2nd rounder to another 1st rounder or either Greig or Bernard-Docker to Shane Pinto.

I would take Greig and Pinto.

Doubt Sens fans would go for any of that but teams have to give to get (maybe not exactly what I would suggest or even what Powers would either).
- Theo Fox

This seems like a pretty big and unrealistic ask. Eichel got the Sabres less.

Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Davidson said his next priority is to “acquire some future assets” for the Blackhawks and he has some “ideas as we head to Montreal next week” but they’re “not going to force anything.”

“We’re in a position where we are listening” to trade offers on everyone.
- LAHawk

Well, since their GM's in tensions are now well publicized, there will be little small talk or, "Are you willing to trade Blank?
Saves time too. You get right down to the teams willing to let draft picks go to get better now making offers.

I think the Hagel trade really helps GM Davidson in so far showing he is serious.
And unless the two TB young journeymen are part of the sex pariah from that past World junior team the the Lightning flushed out of the group, their addition and the two late first rounders is a good haul.

I have heard how they are "late" first rounders, and I would agree, in my experience most drafts, in the late 1st Rd., first rounders are basically lucky second rounder devs who got their names called when in fact they are parts of that average 22-52 tier where you see them really close in grades, closer then anywhere else in the draft.
BUT>>>>----> the 2023 draft late slot is not a drop....the 2023 doesn't have that notable jump drop off:
https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts/2023
Just look at this now and come back later (next season December) after your favorite Draft mock guy starts mentioning them...It is a really strong class...good enough to secure even second round dress in 2023.

So the GM set an example bar and hopefully the almost ready young guys of these team's prospects don't enamour him away from actual extra picks from his excellent new draft scouts and consortium (cough!) getting to be in lower parts of the rounds with chances to secure just want they are looking for as futures.

It is comforting to know that after all our years here (all means all) we finally are close to the position were "trade them all" means really means "ask us about him."

I hear the name Columbus(ex) inquired about, and I get to set the price.
Saves a lot of time.
Because if Columbus is serious, they come back closer with the next offer, or don't call back b/c the price is too high.

Funny thing though, many many GMs are more than willing to trade futures for year in the future, b/c they may be gone and n ot feel the pinch to draining their pool.

This seems like a pretty big and unrealistic ask. Eichel got the Sabres less.
- GPHawksfan

While Eichel is probably more valuable, I’m sure that his health status came into play on the return. The Hawks don’t have to trade Dcat, they should only move him if they get an offer that blows them away.

Scott Powers had a jointly written article today in the Athletic with the Senators reporter on what a DeBrincat trade to Ottawa would look like. Here's what they ended up proposing.

Senators receive:
* Alex DeBrincat

Blackhawks receive:
* 2022 1st (7th overall)
* 2022 2nd (63rd overall)
* Ridly Greig
* Jacob Bernard-Docker
* Matt Murray (25% retained)

The pot would be sweetened for the Sens if DeBrincat signs a contract extension.

This trade proposal is pretty on point with what I would predict.

If the Hawks are able to get rid of some other contracts before this trade goes down, then they could sweeten the pot even more by taking on Murray's full cap hit. And if that's the case, upgrade the 2nd rounder to another 1st rounder or either Greig or Bernard-Docker to Shane Pinto.

I would take Greig and Pinto.

Doubt Sens fans would go for any of that but teams have to give to get (maybe not exactly what I would suggest or even what Powers would either).
- Theo Fox

The Matt Murray component of the trade is what's most interesting to me.

I say we need to acquire him separately as part of a two-part plan:

1) Acquire Murray (20% retained), a 2nd, and a 5th from the Sens for future draft considerations (or a 2026 7th round pick swap).
2) Trade two 2nd's to Buffalo for a 1st (they have 3):
Option #1 - Picks #38 and #39 to BUF for #16
Option #2 - Picks #38 and #57 to BUF for #28

That way, KD ends up having a first round pick without having to have moved the Cat should he decide to hold onto him if the offers aren't compelling enough (which thus far seems to be a difference between Bowman and KD - KD doesn't mind waiting if the value isn't right).

If he does decide to move Cat, Hawks now have multiple 1sts in this year's draft to work with.

The Matt Murray component of the trade is what's most interesting to me..
- TommyHawk

I just read the senators were even considering buying him out, so he is something we consider as am add on for a better group of futures...

Well Dots, looks like Richardson is not looking to play protect the house zone defense:

I’m not exactly sure what the lineup is going to be yet next year, so it’s hard to say exactly what philosophy and gameplan we’re going to actually do but I think that, playing defense — and I was a defensive defenseman — and being good defensively doesn’t mean you’re in your zone all night blocking shots and keeping the score down. I think it’s playing defense fast. And if you can learn to play defense fast whether you’re a big, strong guy or a small, speedy guy, you have the puck more and you have more energy left in your body to play offense. And that’s what I think we can do.

Well Dots, looks like Richardson is not looking to play protect the house zone defense:

I’m not exactly sure what the lineup is going to be yet next year, so it’s hard to say exactly what philosophy and gameplan we’re going to actually do but I think that, playing defense — and I was a defensive defenseman — and being good defensively doesn’t mean you’re in your zone all night blocking shots and keeping the score down. I think it’s playing defense fast. And if you can learn to play defense fast whether you’re a big, strong guy or a small, speedy guy, you have the puck more and you have more energy left in your body to play offense. And that’s what I think we can do.
- LAHawk

If he runs something similar to what the Habs did in the playoffs the previous year, which if i recall was a zone defense, i think a player will have more energy to play offense just kind of makes sense instead of each player chasing a player

While Eichel is probably more valuable, I’m sure that his health status came into play on the return. The Hawks don’t have to trade Dcat, they should only move him if they get an offer that blows them away.
- Angotti

Trading DCat and opening a hole only makes sense if you get multiple hole fillers back. The guy is 24 he's younger than some players take to develop.

You know watching all of the playoff series, and that puck was inside the teams defensive zone 30 seconds and plus, all of them would resort to protecting the house, just saying you can design your defense however you want but if you have an opponent superior to you those players will be to gased to be keep chasing the puck. The wise teams understand better chance of your opponent scoring inside the dots rather than along the boards

Both Avs and Bolts resorted many times to this method.

If he runs something similar to what the Habs did in the playoffs the previous year, which if i recall was a zone defense, i think a player will have more energy to play offense just kind of makes sense instead of each player chasing a player
- BetweenTheDots

https://thehockeywriters....tes-ducharme-replacement/

https://www.habseyesonthe...zegras-michigan-highlight

Looks like the system you so love was Ducharme's system, totally not what Richardson described what he wants to install.

https://thehockeywriters.com/canadiens-3-coaching-candidates-ducharme-replacement/

https://www.habseyesonthe...zegras-michigan-highlight

Looks like the system you so love was Ducharme's system, totally not what Richardson described what he wants to install.
- LAHawk

Oh so he's running a man to man defense, is that what you're getting out of this

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Oh so he's running a man to man defense, is that what you're getting out of this
- BetweenTheDots

No probably a hybrid like Tampa Plays.

https://www.reddit.com/r/...n_cooper_strategy_of_the/

Trading DCat and opening a hole only makes sense if you get multiple hole fillers back. The guy is 24 he's younger than some players take to develop.
- rpeters01

Not that there is a record keeper, but, for the record;

Think its insane to trade DCat.

What are the odds if you go 3 prospects and 3 draft picks even one of those would be as good as DCat. Especially after the last two years which history will probably show were the worst two years for young hockey players development..........

You'll be wishing you had Dcat 3 years from now.

He has worked and did everything they have asked from him. Improved his skating, defense and scores at a ridiculous pace.

And as you say, he's only 24.

Just seems like absolute lunacy to me.

Not that there is a record keeper, but, for the record;

Think its insane to trade DCat.

What are the odds if you go 3 prospects and 3 draft picks even one of those would be as good as DCat. Especially after the last two years which history will probably show were the worst two years for young hockey players development..........

You'll be wishing you had Dcat 3 years from now.

He has worked and did everything they have asked from him. Improved his skating, defense and scores at a ridiculous pace.

And as you say, he's only 24.

Just seems like absolute lunacy to me.
- vabeachbear

Agree.
Only way Blackhawks trade Dcat is if they know for certain he will go UFA and sign with another team when he eventually gets to UFA.

No probably a hybrid like Tampa Plays.

https://www.reddit.com/r/...n_cooper_strategy_of_the/
- LAHawk

Well Cooper preaches preaches and preaches defense, like i said if it's primarily a zone defense I'm good with it

Well Cooper preaches preaches and preaches defense, like i said if it's primarily a zone defense I'm good with it
- BetweenTheDots

Did you leave Richardson your cell phone so before he installs his system he can get your approval?