If you read the new Athlete trade proposal of DeBincat and Ottawa Senator's, here is a my Ridly Greig profile from his draft year:
Edgy Dub centte-wing with strong stick-handling abilities that combine with his excellent skating, edge control, high motor and propensity to be a disturber. Does the grunt work but also has nice touch as a passer who can thread the needle through seams in traffic. Constantly poking at opposing players when the referees are occupied elsewhere. Can get off his shots quickly and accurately. Can slow down or speed up things as needed. Not the biggest player, he will use his body to separate the puck from the enemy, no matter their size. He can be a downright pain in the ass to play against. He will be asked to handle tough minutes,high percentage of defensive zone starts,against the other teams top lines in the early pro career. Can act as a pest to opposing goalies too. The NHL has already embraced its share of tough hard-nosed SOBs who can play centre and wing bring scoring with physicality. There is skill here and lots of aggressive attitude. Now, will he work on adding a lot more strength to the package? His father, Mark Greig, is currently a Flyers amateur scout and played parts of nine NHL seasons in Philadlephia and other cities..
- wiz1901

Would you compare him to Dave Bolland?

Scott Powers had a jointly written article today in the Athletic with the Senators reporter on what a DeBrincat trade to Ottawa would look like. Here's what they ended up proposing.

Senators receive:
* Alex DeBrincat

Blackhawks receive:
* 2022 1st (7th overall)
* 2022 2nd (63rd overall)
* Ridly Greig
* Jacob Bernard-Docker
* Matt Murray (25% retained)

The pot would be sweetened for the Sens if DeBrincat signs a contract extension.

This trade proposal is pretty on point with what I would predict.

If the Hawks are able to get rid of some other contracts before this trade goes down, then they could sweeten the pot even more by taking on Murray's full cap hit. And if that's the case, upgrade the 2nd rounder to another 1st rounder or either Greig or Bernard-Docker to Shane Pinto.

I would take Greig and Pinto.

Doubt Sens fans would go for any of that but teams have to give to get (maybe not exactly what I would suggest or even what Powers would either).
- Theo Fox

Ottawa? I know you're just reporting what you're hearing, but Ottawa?

And forget any contingencies on Cat signing

1st this year and next is where this discussion starts.

Unprotected

Murphy’s contract is horrible.

I saw Friedman reporting things are heating up with Kevin Fiala did not realize he put up 85 PTs last year. in the final year of RFA. turns 26 in 2 weeks.
- kmw4631

The question with Fiala can he reproduce those numbers again year to year?

Murphy’s contract is horrible.
- Newgod77

Your contract is horrible.

Scott Powers had a jointly written article today in the Athletic with the Senators reporter on what a DeBrincat trade to Ottawa would look like. Here's what they ended up proposing.

Senators receive:
* Alex DeBrincat

Blackhawks receive:
* 2022 1st (7th overall)
* 2022 2nd (63rd overall)
* Ridly Greig
* Jacob Bernard-Docker
* Matt Murray (25% retained)

The pot would be sweetened for the Sens if DeBrincat signs a contract extension.

This trade proposal is pretty on point with what I would predict.

- Theo Fox

Logically, I see Ottawa making a deal with their prospects and picks because you can only play so many of your prospects or except fans to wait so long, unless a scorer(s) have emerged and re-enegrized things.

MY question to Blackhawks is, does this move secure the type of prospect that might drop to you at #2 or even #4 if you trade with NJ or Seattle.

(Of course if those teams are only vaguely interested you go where the deal might be, Ottawa.)

I see those Czech defenseman as slot fillers in this possible deal, hoping both are gone, leaving forwards for the Blackhawks.

And I think the interest from the scouting m might be different than any draft lists we scan including mine, ha!

There might just have interest in a Finn,Jonathan Lekkerimäki,or Swede, Joakim Kemell or in little Frankie Nazar...or
https://www.lines.com/nhl...onathan-lekkerimaki-38864

https://www.lines.com/nhl...layer/joakim-kemell-37951

https://www.lines.com/nhl...yer/frank-nazar-iii-37839

I wouldn't hesitate on Austrian centre Marco Kasper who is a big time physical player along the lines of Cutter Gauthier, and more likely a pivot, where I agree with the consensus that at B.U. may have to move him to centre where he just seems a better fit.

https://www.lines.com/nhl...player/marco-kasper-37957

https://www.lines.com/nhl...ayer/cutter-gauthier-8096


My mock draft has Matthew Savoie really high at #6 mostly out of respect for his productivity and game.

https://www.lines.com/nhl...ayer/matthew-savoie-36479

Ok, I will reel it in now.....since no deals have been made.
It is just that one of the most impactful players in the years apple dunk could very likely come from someone other than the top projected guys.

Scott Powers had a jointly written article today in the Athletic with the Senators reporter on what a DeBrincat trade to Ottawa would look like. Here's what they ended up proposing.

Senators receive:
* Alex DeBrincat

Blackhawks receive:
* 2022 1st (7th overall)
* 2022 2nd (63rd overall)
* Ridly Greig
* Jacob Bernard-Docker
* Matt Murray (25% retained)

The pot would be sweetened for the Sens if DeBrincat signs a contract extension.

This trade proposal is pretty on point with what I would predict.

If the Hawks are able to get rid of some other contracts before this trade goes down, then they could sweeten the pot even more by taking on Murray's full cap hit. And if that's the case, upgrade the 2nd rounder to another 1st rounder or either Greig or Bernard-Docker to Shane Pinto.

I would take Greig and Pinto.

Doubt Sens fans would go for any of that but teams have to give to get (maybe not exactly what I would suggest or even what Powers would either).
- Theo Fox

Could also get the 39th instead of 64 in the 2nd round or 32nd pick. So take Nikka Zaitsev and Murray's contracts and expand the trade even more.

Ottawa? I know you're just reporting what you're hearing, but Ottawa?

And forget any contingencies on Cat signing

1st this year and next is where this discussion starts.

Unprotected
- BetweenTheDots

I don't think there is any smoke here. Those Athletic guys are just speculating. Ottawa is one of the teams (NJ is another) that have come out and said they are willing to move a 1st round pick if they can get an established scorer in return. Hence this story line.

And if it does happen, I can't see Debrincat wanting to play there long term. He'll probably sign for a year next summer, then become a UFA after the following season.

Murphy’s contract is horrible.
- Newgod77

He is not making 4.1 mil until 2027 ends like Brandon Carlo who the Bruins are chatting about to jettisoning....

.3 million makes me place them close on the spectrum....

What if Cat, who just started a family like Strome, are happy here and take less money to stay in Chicago? Seems like even in the business world this is happening more and more.

I can actually see these kids doing that, we always complained about over paying for players but cost certainty is an asset as well, it did get us 2 1st round picks and 2 prospects from TB.

How much does a top line cost? Anywhere from almost $30 mil to $15 mil?

Well, this is the only time of the year here

We ALL should be SPECULATING, because the phones are open until the end of next week, and the RREAL talk HAS started and there WILL BE REAL TRADES coming very soon.

(Not like when we talk here all hear about what "they" could do in the "Future."

The future is now...

Setting my sites on the next Blackhawk Stanley Cup in 11 years, 2033 after my 83rd birthday.
Because thinking it is coming quicker means you 're drinking to much liquor...
...a poet and don't know it

What if Cat, who just started a family like Strome, are happy here and take less money to stay in Chicago? Seems like even in the business world this is happening more and more.

I can actually see these kids doing that, we always complained about over paying for players but cost certainty is an asset as well, it did get us 2 1st round picks and 2 prospects from TB.

How much does a top line cost? Anywhere from almost $30 mil to $15 mil?
- BetweenTheDots

Look, I agree with you...I know the players know home is with your contract, but what if the cat wants to be a Hawk forever?

Then you hammer out his deal long term NTC, and figure out a alternative strategy.

I don't think there is any smoke here. Those Athletic guys are just speculating. Ottawa is one of the teams (NJ is another) that have come out and said they are willing to move a 1st round pick if they can get an established scorer in return. Hence this story line.

And if it does happen, I can't see Debrincat wanting to play there long term. He'll probably sign for a year next summer, then become a UFA after the following season.
- boilermaker100

Ottawa from what heard would trades with players with term. Hence Seth Jones but I would have to think dcat might be the exception.

Depends on the severity of the tear. I was supposed to have the new procedure, however when they opened it up they had to do the full procedure. In any case Duclair is probably gone all year. It is not only the healing of the Achilles, but rebuilding up the leg muscles. Kevin Durant came back early, and ended up with a leg injury which put him on the shelf again for an extended period.

Would you compare Ridly Greig to Dave Bolland?
- boilermaker100

YES!

Depends on the severity of the tear. I was supposed to have the new procedure, however when they opened it up they had to do the full procedure. In any case Duclair is probably gone all year. It is not only the healing of the Achilles, but rebuilding up the leg muscles. Kevin Durant came back early, and ended up with a leg injury which put him on the shelf again for an extended period.
- LAHawk

I tore my in 1988, and the first thin g the doctor asked after was if was an athlete (ha!) b/c I could go to regular rehab, b ut if I was, I could get a much more intense read to get me back to performance levels.

But I agree it depends upon the degree ---when I saw the Rocket (Richard ) when I was little he was not the same guy who could manhandle the defender and cut to the front with the guy on his back....

Anybody see me at the Blackhawk games then?. In that giant cast that went almost head to above the knee I never missed a game after surgery, and I drew and colored themes beautiful Habs goalie on it, because I knew I couldn't get a proper Indianhead on it in color...

Logically, I see Ottawa making a deal with their prospects and picks because you can only play so many of your prospects or except fans to wait so long, unless a scorer(s) have emerged and re-enegrized things.

MY question to Blackhawks is, does this move secure the type of prospect that might drop to you at #2 or even #4 if you trade with NJ or Seattle.

(Of course if those teams are only vaguely interested you go where the deal might be, Ottawa.)

I see those Czech defenseman as slot fillers in this possible deal, hoping both are gone, leaving forwards for the Blackhawks.

And I think the interest from the scouting m might be different than any draft lists we scan including mine, ha!

There might just have interest in a Finn,Jonathan Lekkerimäki,or Swede, Joakim Kemell or in little Frankie Nazar...or
https://www.lines.com/nhl...onathan-lekkerimaki-38864

https://www.lines.com/nhl...layer/joakim-kemell-37951

https://www.lines.com/nhl...yer/frank-nazar-iii-37839

I wouldn't hesitate on Austrian centre Marco Kasper who is a big time physical player along the lines of Cutter Gauthier, and more likely a pivot, where I agree with the consensus that at B.U. may have to move him to centre where he just seems a better fit.

https://www.lines.com/nhl...player/marco-kasper-37957

https://www.lines.com/nhl...ayer/cutter-gauthier-8096


My mock draft has Matthew Savoie really high at #6 mostly out of respect for his productivity and game.

https://www.lines.com/nhl...ayer/matthew-savoie-36479

Ok, I will reel it in now.....since no deals have been made.
It is just that one of the most impactful players in the years apple dunk could very likely come from someone other than the top projected guys.
- wiz1901

The thing with the Kraken as a potential trade partner is that they have a paltry prospect system. The only prospect I would want is someone they would never give up and that's Beniers.

After Beniers, the Seattle prospect pool is really no better than Chicago's.

The Kraken do have a 1st rounder in each of the next 3 seasons plus a lot of 2nd rounders (4 then 3 then 1).

As for 1st rounders in this draft, I do like Frank Nazar and Marco Kasper. Both are great all-around players, relentless compete level, endless motors, and strong skaters.

Cutter Gauthier is worth a look, too, but not in the top half of the 1st. Don't know if his upside is top 6 either. Seems to be similar to Chase Stillman, i.e. an excellent gritty 3rd liner.

I'd pass on Joakim Kemell and Jonathan Lekkerimäki. They seem like Dominik Kubalik to me as volume shooting goal scorers. Kind of one trick ponies. Maybe look at them in the 2nd but can see teams taking them in the 1st.

Theo, any rumors on an extension for 88?

If no, is a trade brewing?

Wouldn’t it be better for both team and player to have his status determined rather than going into the season with questions?

Thoughts?

Exhale

Depends on the severity of the tear. I was supposed to have the new procedure, however when they opened it up they had to do the full procedure. In any case Duclair is probably gone all year. It is not only the healing of the Achilles, but rebuilding up the leg muscles. Kevin Durant came back early, and ended up with a leg injury which put him on the shelf again for an extended period.
- LAHawk

No offense LA but i think age is a big factor to.

Theo, any rumors on an extension for 88?

If no, is a trade brewing?

Wouldn’t it be better for both team and player to have his status determined rather than going into the season with questions?

Thoughts?

Exhale
- mike7076

No rumors that I'm aware of on any contract extensions for any Hawks players. Just a guess but perhaps a lot depends on summer trades and free agent signings to see what the team composition could look like in the next few seasons.

EDIT: Caleb Jones is the only one that I heard about in terms of the Hawks interested in re-upping with someone on the current roster.

No offense LA but i think age is a big factor to.
- BetweenTheDots

True, it still took Kobe Bryant with the best Doctors and Physios 8 months before returning

No rumors that I'm aware of on any contract extensions for any Hawks players. Just a guess but perhaps a lot depends on summer trades and free agent signings to see what the team composition could look like in the next few seasons.

EDIT: Caleb Jones is the only one that I heard about in terms of the Hawks interested in re-upping with someone on the current roster.
- Theo Fox

If Ottawa is serious about possibly trading for Debrincat then they like other teams will have match the demands Davidson has set.
To Ottawa Debrincat rights to kubalik
To Chicago 2022 7th overall pick 39th 2023 1st craig docker Pinto Matt Murry and Zaitsev contracts. To me this benefits both teams hawks get three young assets plus multiple high draft picks in this year's draft and next year's 1st in which hawks would get 3 1st round picks in a deep draft. Plus get a goalie and d man both could be flip for more assets possibly.

True, it still took Kobe Bryant with the best Doctors and Physios 8 months before returning
- LAHawk

You didn’t have a hyperbaric chamber at home to rehab with??

As reported by Eklund here on HockeyBuzz, there's a possibility that the Avalanche could trade playoff hero and Cup-clinching goal scorer Artturi Lehkonen if they can't get a contract done to re-sign the winger. Lekhonen is supposedly being linked to the Blackhawks as well as the Devils.

Wow, I guess I must have missed that bit of lunacy. Yeah, after trying for two deadlines in a row to get Lehkonen and, as reported by LeBrun, badgering Hughes daily and then multiple times per day up until 15 minutes before the deadline, Sakic is going to trade him to NJ or Chicago. I'm very sure that's going to happen. Funny, he's not going to Carolina or Calgary or some other contender, he's going to an NY metro team or Chicago, both in re-builds. Abso-friggin-lutely. And people actually take that monstrous stupidity seriously enough to consider what the return might be. What a crazy freaking world.

Wow, I guess I must have missed that bit of lunacy. Yeah, after trying for two deadlines in a row to get Lehkonen and, as reported by LeBrun, badgering Hughes daily and then multiple times per day up until 15 minutes before the deadline, Sakic is going to trade him to NJ or Chicago. I'm very sure that's going to happen. Funny, he's not going to Carolina or Calgary or some other contender, he's going to an NY metro team or Chicago, both in re-builds. Abso-friggin-lutely. And people actually take that monstrous stupidity seriously enough to consider what the return might be. What a crazy freaking world.
- FoppaForever

Sakic will do everything he can to keep the nucleus including Lehkonen intact as well as re-signing MacKinnon, Kadri, Manson plus a number of the Avs UFAs and RFAs. Chicago’s best chance of benefiting from Colorado’s contract challenges is to offer any needed cap relief in exchange for draft picks and or prospects.