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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 10:17 PM ET
Med Hat and eye candy. Not sure that computes
- drexel

Hooters for their wings ....
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:49 PM ET
The Jets priced themselves out of players by being located in a poop-hole part of the world that no one wants to go to.

Also, because they're gonna be tearing the team down, since their best players all want out.

Truly unfortunate.

- GreatGigInTheSky


Its funby because its true. You ever benn to winnipeg? I have. Once. Its a dump.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:52 PM ET
Some of the popular places for fairweather fans to comment are hilarious today. Edmonton fans who will argue that mcdavid and draisaitl dont play together and both centre their own lines insisting they should both be on the first all star team.... "OMGZZZ THE NHL IS SUCH A JOKEZ".

UHH, im guessing you dont understand how those all star teams work....

mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 23 @ 11:00 PM ET
Raptors pick 🔜
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:01 PM ET
The Leafs have priced themselves out of resigning these two players or any good free agents due to spending $50 mil on 5 players.
- islansjet


Know what's funny? Dubois has already stated he's going to free agency as soon as he can. Must suck that your #1 center wants out even before he is eligible.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 23 @ 11:02 PM ET
Know what's funny? Dubois has already stated he's going to free agency as soon as he can. Must suck that your #1 center wants out even before he is eligible.
- Aaron_85

Didn’t Dubois dad work for the Jets?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:03 PM ET
Since it's still being talked about in the hockey world, it's rich that Tampa is complaining about too many men on the ice. I didn't hear any complaining when the hooking, grabbing, holding, ticky tack bullpoop wasn't called because "it's playoff hockey" and then a judgmental, barely too many men call isn't made and it's "GOTTA CALL THAT ONE!"
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:03 PM ET
Didn’t Dubois dad work for the Jets?
- mr.sir


Don't matter. He stated he's going to free agency lol
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 23 @ 11:16 PM ET
Raptors pick 🔜
- mr.sir

It’s KOLOKO time!
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:36 PM ET
Med Hat and eye candy. Not sure that computes
- drexel


Come on now, it's pretty much budget Calgary. For what that's worth.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 24 @ 2:14 AM ET
Lots of people here thought it was great because of his contract.
- Aaron_85


Crazy that what me and others said about him not getting the same opportunities to play with the best players, would make his production basically non-existent. Since he was clearly carried by that fact.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 24 @ 2:15 AM ET
I luv your summary.
- Leafsmart


GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 24 @ 2:17 AM ET
Its funby because its true. You ever benn to winnipeg? I have. Once. Its a dump.
- prock


I haven't been, no. But I know many a people that have been and they all say the exact same thing. "Don't go there."
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 24 @ 8:11 AM ET
Mikheyev is heading to Vancouver
(which for me is a good option)👍

Joining the UFA Russian they just signed
Kuzmenko
Smart gm’ing by Rutherford
Trade Boeser and Miller for a 🚤 load
Pick up UFA’s for free

- mr.sir

that really isnt good gm'n.....even if he was the gm.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 24 @ 8:12 AM ET
I'm going to say it again, that Hagel trade looks like trash. 6 points in the playoffs. two first round picks for this guy.

Yes I get his salary is cheap but he only scored 4 goals after being traded and 2 were empty netters. If his points don't get close to what he got in Chicago it's a horrible trade. It's already not been good for this run.

- Aaron_85

He was overrated to begin with and Im so glad the lightning overpaid for him.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 8:19 AM ET
Word is Bergeron is probably signing a 1 year deal with boston.

Boo
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 24 @ 8:50 AM ET
Word is Bergeron is probably signing a 1 year deal with boston.

Boo

- senstroll

I didnt expect any other outcome, he was always staying with boston
oh and for about 6 - 7m.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:00 AM ET
I didnt expect any other outcome, he was always staying with boston
oh and for about 6 - 7m.

- Fakepartofme

roughly what was his cap hit
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:12 AM ET
i would be willing to bet that perimeter melander hangs out at moxies👍

edit: with buston glassthews👍🏿

pencil neck female dog used to but he’s wussywhooped now so he has to hang at chucky cheeses and swill bud light while he wonders why in the (frank) he got hitched before he was 40🤦🏿‍♂️😭
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:21 AM ET
i would be willing to bet that perimeter melander hangs out at moxies👍

edit: with buston glassthews👍🏿

pencil neck female dog used to but he’s wussywhooped now so he has to hang at chucky cheeses and swill bud light while he wonders why in the (frank) he got hitched before he was 40🤦🏿‍♂️😭

- Skalapy

We all wonder that.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 24 @ 9:25 AM ET
roughly what was his cap hit
- dmnted


Yeah. He was making $6.875, so he'll stay in that range if that's accurate.

On one hand he's 36.

On the other hand he's Patrice Bergeron, apparently the Selkiest player to ever play.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:29 AM ET
Yeah. He was making $6.875, so he'll stay in that range if that's accurate.

On one hand he's 36.

On the other hand he's Patrice Bergeron, apparently the Selkiest player to ever play.

- Monkeypunk

and 65pts in 73 games, not bad for an old guy
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:35 AM ET
10 mill for a back up tendy and a 3rd line winger . Both are injury magnets.



have fun in Arizona guys
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:38 AM ET
10 mill for a back up tendy and a 3rd line winger . Both are injury magnets.



have fun in Arizona guys

- PinkSock

in MTL those cost 15M
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 24 @ 9:44 AM ET
Allvin isn’t calling the shots without Rutherford yet

My point is that if you trade players for assets and then pick up UFA to fill the gaps, you come out ahead in the long run

For example……(hypothetical)

Dubas trades Nylander for 3 prospects
Then signs Forsberg as UFA
Now you have Forsberg + 3 prospects instead of just Nylander
(Yes I realize FF will probably get 8.5m)

Vancouver is building around Demko, Hughes and Pettersen
They don’t need to stampede towards the clitoris yet

- mr.sir


I want to preface this because there's some meander in here - Vancouver is in a weird place. They were a playoff team from January onwards under Boudreau. So they have a playoff coach who likely doesn't want to be a rebuild coach on a team that I think screams rebuild. I mean when I look at the team, I'm not sure where they would go if they felt that last year's progress was a positive indicator. I have a strong feeling about where they SHOULD go based on what they have, but Boudreau's presence muddies those waters.

For instance I'm not sure Boeser is all that - if I'm not mistaken his QO is $7.5m and if I was Boeser, I'd take that all day every day because there isn't much about his game that screams "I'm worth more than $5m!". Ever since Benning gave him that 3 year bridge deal which was backloaded to increase the QO value, Boeser hasn't stepped up and performed at the same 35-40 goal pace that got him there. If anything he's in the 20-25 range.

Miller, on the other hand, is that team's engine. They'd be wise to figure out what he wants to stay - and he has said he wants to stay. And then make a decision - do they think they can build with what they have or do they recognize that it's possibly full tear down time and maximize the return on Miller while he's hot?

The reason I say that (and it's a bit of an about face after I looked deeper at their system) is because after Hughes at 22, Petterson at 23, Demko at 26 . . . and Podkolzin being just okay at 21 - honestly their prospect pool sucks . . . they might be better off just tearing it all down and accepting that Benning ran them into the ground and they need to just start over.

But if that were the case, signing Mikheyev wouldn't be of use. They'd be better off to stockpile useful guys who can be traded at the TDL for picks and second-chance guys who can rehab their careers (or not) and be traded out for a pick. Basically the stuff Lou did here which helped get additional 2nd and 3rd rd picks that were smart moves.
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