Filip Forsberg is getting a little more smoke....to that fire. And he was in town.
Lets get Boro back too.
- Octavarium

Character matters and Boro really added something to the team. But team needs to have space for kids to move up.

I know for a fact any deal involving a top 6 forward will be for the number 7 pick. Dorion has told GM's, if that isn't part of the package, don't bother, FWIW. This team wouldn't give up Greig, the idea of giving up the number 7 pick is you would be getting a high end skilled forward with that pick. JBD I believe could moved this summer for the right package.
- Kevin Francis

So you think, just hypothetically, that Ottawa would prefer to move number 7 over someone like Greig?

I am not a huge fan of trading #7. However, I do accept Dorion is fully committed to trading the pick. Just about everyone we read (or follow) says he is going to pull the trigger.

So, what does he need to do in order to hit a home run?

My preference is to go big and bring in a top 6 forward or top 4 Dman.

I most like Dubois and would boost the package to make it happen (assuming he signs 8 year $8.125 deal). I really want the Sens to add another big body up front.

I am not a huge fan of trading #7. However, I do accept Dorion is fully committed to trading the pick. Just about everyone we read (or follow) says he is going to pull the trigger.

So, what does he need to do in order to hit a home run?

My preference is to go big and bring in a top 6 forward or top 4 Dman.

I most like Dubois and would boost the package to make it happen (assuming he signs 8 year $8.125 deal). I really want the Sens to add another big body up front.
- spatso

Taking on Dubois for 8x8.25 would qualify more as hitting into a triple play and that's not even counting whatever "package" is going the other way and is exactly representative of the kind of franchise destroying moves that I am afraid Dorion will be treating us to in the near future.

Dubois looks great on paper but seems to cause trouble everywhere he goes and is widely considered to have been extremely inconsistent in his play. Then there's the question of where would you play him. Do you break up Tkachuk, Norris and Batherson or do you move Stutzle back to the wing or do you play Dubois on the wing? You've already got one 8 milluion+ LW. Do you want another? What do you pay Norris, Stutzle and then Sanderson if he turns out to be a top D like everyone seems to think he will. What about getting a true number 1 goalie if Forsberg turns out to not be that guy?

I wish people would get their heads out of the clouds and stop looking around for the big stars they need to add. The Sens already have their stars. They just need to let them mature for a year or two and in the meantime look for the good players that will be shaking loose because so many teams weren't paying attention to the cap and sign those guys to put in place a good supporting cast for the stars we already have.

It's called contend next season or lose their jobs....they want players that can play now, not in 3 years. Naturally, other aspects would be attached to any potential trade but those would be the key pieces going either way.
- Kevin Francis

This. This is what is scary about everything Sens right now. Departed owner had PD in his pocket, new management likely has a shorter leash. Compete or lose your job. Puts all options on the table. Scary stuff given who is driving, but I am still hoping for the best, or at the bare minimum hope we avoid a swan song Koskinen signing situation a la Chiarelli.

Taking on Dubois for 8x8.25 would qualify more as hitting into a triple play and that's not even counting whatever "package" is going the other way and is exactly representative of the kind of franchise destroying moves that I am afraid Dorion will be treating us to in the near future.
- Whatisavailable

Not a lot of players that I love. I have always been a Kadri fan. Love Ovechkin and Tom Wilson. Wish Evander would clean up his act as he really does make a difference when he sticks to hockey. Was sorry to see Nick Paul go because he does everything and more if based on the dollar his is paid. My favourite bottom six player on the Sens is Austin Watson. He plays with great heart. I doubt Montreal would ever let Josh Anderson come our way.

Not a lot of players that I love. I have always been a Kadri fan. Love Ovechkin and Tom Wilson. Wish Evander would clean up his act as he really does make a difference when he sticks to hockey. Was sorry to see Nick Paul go because he does everything and more if based on the dollar his is paid. My favourite bottom six player on the Sens is Austin Watson. He plays with great heart. I doubt Montreal would ever let Josh Anderson come our way.
- spatso

I wish people would get their heads out of the clouds and stop looking around for the big stars they need to add. The Sens already have their stars. They just need to let them mature for a year or two and in the meantime look around for the good players that will be shaking loose because so many teams weren't paying attention to the cap and sign those guys to affordable contracts to put in place a good supporting cast for the stars we already have.

What worries me is that Dorion seems to be content to let these guys go. First there was Paul over a matter of 2 or 3 hundred thousand dollars. Now it looks like Connor Brown is next. What about Formenton or Zub? What will he do with them? I've been assuming Norris was a given but with this new setup who knows what's going to happen?

So many people seem to be so eager to get rid of Greig and Thomson and JBD and pretty much any promising prospect that the Sens have drafted and developed. All for this magical saviour that will take them to perennial contention for a wild card spot.

JT Miller will be a nice fit in Ottawa. Excellent player and good leadership qualities.

I wish people would get their heads out of the clouds and stop looking around for the big stars they need to add. The Sens already have their stars. They just need to let them mature for a year or two and in the meantime look around for the good players that will be shaking loose because so many teams weren't paying attention to the cap and sign those guys to affordable contracts to put in place a good supporting cast for the stars we already have.

What worries me is that Dorion seems to be content to let these guys go. First there was Paul over a matter of 2 or 3 hundred thousand dollars. Now it looks like Connor Brown is next. What about Formenton or Zub? What will he do with them? I've been assuming Norris was a given but with this new setup who knows what's going to happen?

So many people seem to be so eager to get rid of Greig and Thomson and JBD and pretty much any promising prospect that the Sens have drafted and developed. All for this magical saviour that will take them to perennial contention for a wild card spot.
- Whatisavailable

Sometimes questions are more important than the answers and you are asking some great questions.

I believe most of the guys on this thread are okay with sticking with the draft, being patient and letting the kids grow into a contender.

But Dorion has sent a signal that he intends to trade the #7. I believe he already knows what the deal is likely going to be. My assumption is it involves a very good player plus their full salary coming back our way. My other assumption is that it involves the #7 and perhaps a plus going back the other way but no salary.

So, should Dorion trade the #7. Preferred answer is "no."

But if he does decide to trade the #7 what would you like to see him get in return?

The other side of the debate from Theo Fox on the Hawks thread. It is pretty good. I believe Sens fans would support Theo's reasoning. But, do you come to a point where you need to flip the switch and say "okay, rebuild is over it is time to go for it."

"So why trade the likes of Kane, Toews, and/or DeBrincat as well as Seth Jones, Connor Murphy, and/or Jake McCabe? Throwing the young ones to the wolves game in and game out may not build a contender the right way. Sure, they get experience via trial by fire but what about the importance of mentorship on how to be a pro before, during, and after games.

One thing to keep in mind is that some trades of the aforementioned will gain back players with miles in the NHL especially to help the other team's salary cap. It's understood that they may not be of the same caliber as those they are being exchanged for. However, it could be argued that skill level and career accolades don't matter as much in a rebuild."

Barry Trotz will not coach this year. He has said "no" to the Winnipeg offer. In the spirit of fan unity and harmony, I make the following trade proposal.

To Ottawa: Pierre Luc Dubois

To Winnipeg: #7 draft pick 2022, 2nd round pick (Tampa 2022), 3rd round pick (Boston 2022), DJ Smith

JT Miller will be a nice fit in Ottawa. Excellent player and good leadership qualities.
- Reubenkincade

Is there something you know, that others dont? Is he being dealt to Ottawa?

Barry Trotz will not coach this year. He has said "no" to the Winnipeg offer. In the spirit of fan unity and harmony, I make the following trade proposal.

To Ottawa: Pierre Luc Dubois

To Winnipeg: #7 draft pick 2022, 2nd round pick (Tampa 2022), 3rd round pick (Boston 2022), DJ Smith
- spatso

I posted stats about him in the last blog comment section. He no shows more than any other 1C in the NHL. In 40% of his games, he didn't even register a point while going in the minus column too. He ain't worth the money on an extension. His character is a big question too, go listen to Jets fans on Jacob's blog here, you will see what I mean.

This. This is what is scary about everything Sens right now. Departed owner had PD in his pocket, new management likely has a shorter leash. Compete or lose your job. Puts all options on the table. Scary stuff given who is driving, but I am still hoping for the best, or at the bare minimum hope we avoid a swan song Koskinen signing situation a la Chiarelli.
- Bartacus

Please leave your idiot head coach in place all season next year, we bettors love betting against DJ Smith.

I posted stats about him in the last blog comment section. He no shows more than any other 1C in the NHL. In 40% of his games, he didn't even register a point while going in the minus column too. He ain't worth the money on an extension. His character is a big question too, go listen to Jets fans on Jacob's blog here, you will see what I mean.
- PuckPix

No inside information. But, alarm bells went off for me when Dubois went the World Championships as an RFA without having started any contract talks. I like size. I like defense. We have all watched Dubois shut down Austin Matthews and other good centres, And, I watched him during the World Championships and he was very solid. Perhaps Canada's best player?

I hear the doubts. Tortarella would scream at him on the bench. But Tortarella also thought he was a really good player and wanted more from him. Winnipeg does cause me some pause. But we have all heard stories that the Winnipeg dressing room is fragile and dominated by a few veterans. Laine wanted out of Winnipeg and seems happy with his end of the move.

Dorion is going to trade the #7. Many of us think he should not deal the pick. But let's assume he is going to do a deal...who would be a better option than Dubois?

No inside information. But, alarm bells went off for me when Dubois went the World Championships as an RFA without having started any contract talks. I like size. I like defense. We have all watched Dubois shut down Austin Matthews and other good centres, And, I watched him during the World Championships and he was very solid. Perhaps Canada's best player?

I hear the doubts. Tortarella would scream at him on the bench. But Tortarella also thought he was a really good player and wanted more from him. Winnipeg does cause me some pause. But we have all heard stories that the Winnipeg dressing room is fragile and dominated by a few veterans. Laine wanted out of Winnipeg and seems happy with his end of the move.

Dorion is going to trade the #7. Many of us think he should not deal the pick. But let's assume he is going to do a deal...who would be a better option than Dubois?
- spatso

I'd be OK with Shea Theodore.

I'd be OK with Shea Theodore.
- Whatisavailable

I'd do that in heartbeat but doubt vgk would. I feel the Sens would get more value at D with the top 7 pick than forward.

I'd be OK with Shea Theodore.
- Whatisavailable

I prefer Dubois. But I would be content with Theodore.

I'd do that in heartbeat but doubt vgk would. I feel the Sens would get more value at D with the top 7 pick than forward.
- GrimmdaGoalie

This team needs to stop pucks from going in the net, exactly! Take care of the defense first and get the top 4 guy this team sorely needs.

Simmer posted the Yotes one, I posted the CFL one about Leblanc. You should read both of them. We have his fool Leblanc leading this team on the business, who has been nothing but a failure and hated everywhere he has been!

Be sure to check the dates on each article. 2016 for the Yotes and 2019 for the CFL.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports...-arena-proposal-1.3850353


https://atlantic.ctvnews....th-and-spelling-1.2791132

Please leave your idiot head coach in place all season next year, we bettors love betting against DJ Smith.

- PuckPix

Sorry but I'd say 90% of the fanbase want DJ gone, go bet against another team lol, but take a look at all the teams that have hired new coaches this off season, good chance they all finish ahead of Ottawa in the standings. These teams upgraded the coaching position when they saw great candidates available. Here in Ottawa, common sense doesn't prevail with PD!

JT Miller will be a nice fit in Ottawa. Excellent player and good leadership qualities.
- Reubenkincade

Yes! In a second!

I've mentioned on Twitter at the beginning of the Cup final, Palat for TB, UFA.....he would be great to sign!!

This. This is what is scary about everything Sens right now. Departed owner had PD in his pocket, new management likely has a shorter leash. Compete or lose your job. Puts all options on the table. Scary stuff given who is driving, but I am still hoping for the best, or at the bare minimum hope we avoid a swan song Koskinen signing situation a la Chiarelli.
- Bartacus

I couldn't agree more!! PD is getting destroyed today on Twitter, fans are sick of him.

Nice to hear positive news towards a new arena. We have sort of seen this before, so it's hard to get too excited until a shovel hits the ground. However, a downtown area, developed properly, would be a huge boost to the team and city. I've advocated for this for years on this site. Lots of quality names in the deal so you think it has to workout for the best.

In regards to the pick, I am nervous about what Dorion will do. I think moving the 7th overall pick for simply a top 6ish forward and not a true impact player would be a bit of a mistake. Understandably, the 7th overall pick might not warrant anything more than a top 6 forward, but smart GMs acquire top 6ish forwards without moving top-10 picks. It will be an interesting time leading top to the draft.

Dorion has a long to do list and has very little support to do it. Baffling that McGuire and McTavish left right before the draft one way or another.

No matter how the offseason goes, October and November will be a time to see if DJ and Dorion start to update their LinkedIn profiles.

With the arena announcement, this is a positive day to be a Sens fan. Let's enjoy it.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Solid post as always! The long to do list is hard to accomplish when you have basically nobody to help him in hockey ops, just take a look at the Sens page for hockey ops, its a joke. Everything that happens with PD is baffling though. How you don't keep McGuire until July is beyond foolish when the ops are already thin....plus they should've made damn well sure Peter Mac didn't leave too.....but nobody can work with PD, unless your name is DJ.

Someone messaged me on Twitter today with this comment and summed it quite well.
The team needs ppl in their hockey ops that aren’t gonna get pissy when asked tough questions. And a GM who isn’t intimidated by other people’s hockey opinions