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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 24 @ 9:32 AM ET
I wouldn’t mind seeing Dumo, Petts, Kap, Zucker, Mcginn, Erod and depending on the cost Malkin all gone. So much vanilla in that group.
- Grinder47


I truly hope they don't keep Kap even at league minimum. I just don't want him blocking other young players. I feel like if Kap is still here they'll be compelled to keep trying him in the top six.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 24 @ 10:18 AM ET
I truly hope they don't keep Kap even at league minimum. I just don't want him blocking other young players. I feel like if Kap is still here they'll be compelled to keep trying him in the top six.
- Rinosaur

Yeah. Kap is the worst.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 1:41 PM ET
I truly hope they don't keep Kap even at league minimum. I just don't want him blocking other young players. I feel like if Kap is still here they'll be compelled to keep trying him in the top six.
- Rinosaur


What young players do you think he'd block? Legare and Poulin look like AHL fodder, Androvski needs some AHL time, and I wouldn't call guys like Nylander or Angello "young." Due to the cap, it's likely that a few vet forwards will be moving on which should open some holes for young players to fill.

I'm not saying they should resign him, simply that I don't think signing him would be blocking anyone.
Pags
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stony Point, NY
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 24 @ 2:07 PM ET
What young players do you think he'd block? Legare and Poulin look like AHL fodder, Androvski needs some AHL time, and I wouldn't call guys like Nylander or Angello "young." Due to the cap, it's likely that a few vet forwards will be moving on which should open some holes for young players to fill.

I'm not saying they should resign him, simply that I don't think signing him would be blocking anyone.

- jmatchett383
Nylander is only 24 and it'd be smart to find out what we have with him. There's also O'Connor, Puustinen, Hallander, Bjorkqvist and Svejkovsky.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 24 @ 2:11 PM ET
What young players do you think he'd block? Legare and Poulin look like AHL fodder, Androvski needs some AHL time, and I wouldn't call guys like Nylander or Angello "young." Due to the cap, it's likely that a few vet forwards will be moving on which should open some holes for young players to fill.

I'm not saying they should resign him, simply that I don't think signing him would be blocking anyone.

- jmatchett383


I'd like to see guys like DOC, Puustinen, Nylander, etc.. get shots at the lineup and him being there makes it harder. I'm not saying I'm convinced they're going to be anything, but I'd rather see what we have in them when we already know what we have in Kapanen.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
Was having a friendly debate with some family and friends... what do you guys think was the worst letdown/loss of the Crosby era?

Among those mentioned:

-2008 Cup loss
-2012 1st Round loss versus Flyers
-2013 sweep by the Bruins (my choice)
-2018 2nd round loss versus Capitals
-2019 Sweep by Islanders
-2022 1st round loss by Rangers
Pags
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stony Point, NY
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 24 @ 2:17 PM ET
Was having a friendly debate with some family and friends... what do you guys think was the worst letdown/loss of the Crosby era?

Among those mentioned:

-2008 Cup loss
-2012 1st Round loss versus Flyers
-2013 sweep by the Bruins (my choice)
-2018 2nd round loss versus Capitals
-2019 Sweep by Islanders
-2022 1st round loss by Rangers

- SuperHenderson13

2012 Briere was offsides and it was Filthadelphia lol
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 2:27 PM ET
Was having a friendly debate with some family and friends... what do you guys think was the worst letdown/loss of the Crosby era?

Among those mentioned:

-2008 Cup loss
-2012 1st Round loss versus Flyers
-2013 sweep by the Bruins (my choice)
-2018 2nd round loss versus Capitals
-2019 Sweep by Islanders
-2022 1st round loss by Rangers

- SuperHenderson13


Bruins sweep all day
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 24 @ 2:50 PM ET
Was having a friendly debate with some family and friends... what do you guys think was the worst letdown/loss of the Crosby era?

Among those mentioned:

-2008 Cup loss
-2012 1st Round loss versus Flyers
-2013 sweep by the Bruins (my choice)
-2018 2nd round loss versus Capitals
-2019 Sweep by Islanders
-2022 1st round loss by Rangers

- SuperHenderson13

2020. Getting bounced by Montreal in the qualifying round.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 2:54 PM ET
Was having a friendly debate with some family and friends... what do you guys think was the worst letdown/loss of the Crosby era?

Among those mentioned:

-2008 Cup loss
-2012 1st Round loss versus Flyers
-2013 sweep by the Bruins (my choice)
-2018 2nd round loss versus Capitals
-2019 Sweep by Islanders
-2022 1st round loss by Rangers

- SuperHenderson13

The Philly one hurt the most but the Boston one was the most disappointing. Philly sucked hardest because it was that Jagr team, it was Philly, and I really thought we were gonna win the whole way through until we didn’t. The Bruins one was the most disappointing because we were ridiculously hyped up after all those trades but you could kinda see the chinks from a mile away. Sid wasn’t 100%, bylsma poopty lineup decisions, morrow not 100%, Sutter neutering the third line regardless who was on it, having to start almost retired Vokun. I had a bad feeling going into Boston but it was a massive letdown
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jun 24 @ 6:34 PM ET
Was having a friendly debate with some family and friends... what do you guys think was the worst letdown/loss of the Crosby era?

Among those mentioned:

-2008 Cup loss
-2012 1st Round loss versus Flyers
-2013 sweep by the Bruins (my choice)
-2018 2nd round loss versus Capitals
-2019 Sweep by Islanders
-2022 1st round loss by Rangers

- SuperHenderson13



2018 by far mostly because of the Brassard trade. I still feel if we kept Reaves and Cole this team would have won that series. I think we started to become less balanced as a team following that trade.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 8:10 PM ET
2012 Briere was offsides and it was Filthadelphia lol
- Pags


He was offsides...and the Pens' 3rd goal should have been blown dead for icing.
Pags
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stony Point, NY
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:02 PM ET
He was offsides...and the Pens' 3rd goal should have been blown dead for icing.
- jmatchett383
Just setting an example for this years TB fans...never let go, never forget lol.
And let's face it, both goalies should have been blown dead. Pretty sure 2 random corpses in the creases could have equaled those save %'s.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 24 @ 9:28 PM ET
I can’t believe there wasn’t a 7 minute review of the goal.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 24 @ 9:35 PM ET
Thanks Corey Perry.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 24 @ 10:17 PM ET
Was having a friendly debate with some family and friends... what do you guys think was the worst letdown/loss of the Crosby era?

Among those mentioned:

-2008 Cup loss
-2012 1st Round loss versus Flyers
-2013 sweep by the Bruins (my choice)
-2018 2nd round loss versus Capitals
-2019 Sweep by Islanders
-2022 1st round loss by Rangers

- SuperHenderson13


B's sweep by far for me. Disco should have been sh!t canned the next day. I would have fired him after the Flyers debacle.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 24 @ 10:22 PM ET
Take it for what it's worth, but Madden said his sources tell him the Pens aren't "close" with Letang and they're not even negotiating with Malkin.

Earlier reports had the Pens and Letang as being fairly close.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:48 PM ET
Take it for what it's worth, but Madden said his sources tell him the Pens aren't "close" with Letang and they're not even negotiating with Malkin.

Earlier reports had the Pens and Letang as being fairly close.

- madmike71


That was obvious when they signed Rust last month. But Im sure Malkin wants to retire a Pen....only for hte right price.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 24 @ 11:22 PM ET
Take it for what it's worth, but Madden said his sources tell him the Pens aren't "close" with Letang and they're not even negotiating with Malkin.

Earlier reports had the Pens and Letang as being fairly close.

- madmike71

Fits with the rumors earlier that the Pens wanted Malkin to see how the rest of the league valued him.
Pags
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stony Point, NY
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:23 PM ET
Take it for what it's worth, but Madden said his sources tell him the Pens aren't "close" with Letang and they're not even negotiating with Malkin.

Earlier reports had the Pens and Letang as being fairly close.

- madmike71
Wasn't he the one who reported that Geno wanted 3 years, 20 million?
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 24 @ 11:33 PM ET
Take it for what it's worth, but Madden said his sources tell him the Pens aren't "close" with Letang and they're not even negotiating with Malkin.

Earlier reports had the Pens and Letang as being fairly close.

- madmike71

I dont doubt this, I think both Malkin and Letang and the Penguins are waiting to see who blinks first. I think the both sides think the other one is bluffing that either player will actually leave/the team will let them leave.

As I warned about FSG - they have their numbers in mind. They arent going to bend over backwards to sign guys they have no loyalty to. I think that's a mistake, but that's how they roll.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 25 @ 8:55 AM ET
I dont doubt this, I think both Malkin and Letang and the Penguins are waiting to see who blinks first. I think the both sides think the other one is bluffing that either player will actually leave/the team will let them leave.

As I warned about FSG - they have their numbers in mind. They arent going to bend over backwards to sign guys they have no loyalty to. I think that's a mistake, but that's how they roll.

- SuperHenderson13


Well the last report I read on them said they want to make sure Sid retires a Penguin and they believe the key to that is keeping Malkin and Letang, so I guess we will see.
PittsPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Westernport, MD
Joined: 01.06.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:45 PM ET
Well the last report I read on them said they want to make sure Sid retires a Penguin and they believe the key to that is keeping Malkin and Letang, so I guess we will see.
- Rinosaur


If Malkin and Letang walk, you might as well trade Sid and start the rebuild
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 25 @ 8:10 PM ET
Well the last report I read on them said they want to make sure Sid retires a Penguin and they believe the key to that is keeping Malkin and Letang, so I guess we will see.
- Rinosaur

I hope this is true, and if they believe anything besides this, I really worry about the direction of this organization. I know Mario is a minority owner now, but I wonder where he stands in all of this.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 26 @ 5:48 AM ET
If Malkin and Letang walk, you might as well trade Sid and start the rebuild
- PittsPens

Have you watched the finals? Even with Malkin and Letang they can’t compete with the Avs. They would need a new coach and completely different approach to hockey to compete with Tampa, or do what Tampas doing to keep the series alive.
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