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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 21 @ 10:07 AM ET
9 take one of Cutter, Savoie, Lekker,

16 have to take Miro if hes there.(IMO) Nazar, Rutger, Mesar if not

28. RHD, Howard, BPA

- DirtyDan


I'm putting money on Rutger at 16. It's not my preference, but I (frank)in' bet it's theirs. My backup is Nazar.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 21 @ 10:10 AM ET
I know we want to point to Tage Thompson as validation for this mindset, but trends and history seem to indicate that he's the exception and not the rule.
- buffalofan19


This is Brandon Beane mentality, the get versatile, smart players. Projection matters too, but to get a guy who can play multiple lines, multiple positions, that poop gets their pants tight.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 21 @ 10:18 AM ET
Goalie at 41 is a waste
- DirtyDan

yeah who would think coming off of 2 covid years that it would be a bad idea to use your 4th pick in the draft to grab the best goalie out there
esp with the goalie prospects shunning us


good post
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 21 @ 10:19 AM ET
This is Brandon Beane mentality, the get versatile, smart players. Projection matters too, but to get a guy who can play multiple lines, multiple positions, that poop gets their pants tight.
- TheSabresTaco


And I can live with that when it comes to forward depth as a whole, especially in the later rounds, but the reality is, it's much, much easier for a center to transition to a wing than vice versa.

And even with the Brandon Beane example, that applies for depth as well and has its limits. He didn't draft Kair Elam with the possibility of playing safety in the back of his mind, or Tremaine Edmunds to even play outside linebacker.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 21 @ 10:23 AM ET
Goalie at 41 is a waste
- DirtyDan


Goaltender success in the NHL and draft position might have the least correlation of any position in hockey.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 21 @ 10:24 AM ET
yeah who would think coming off of 2 covid years that it would be a bad idea to use your 4th pick in the draft to grab the best goalie out there
esp with the goalie prospects shunning us


good post

- homiedclown



Move along, nothing to see here.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 21 @ 10:29 AM ET
And I can live with that when it comes to forward depth as a whole, especially in the later rounds, but the reality is, it's much, much easier for a center to transition to a wing than vice versa.

And even with the Brandon Beane example, that applies for depth as well and has its limits. He didn't draft Kair Elam with the possibility of playing safety in the back of his mind, or Tremaine Edmunds to even play outside linebacker.

- buffalofan19


Yeah, I get it. It was more of a 'well, he can play both sides/wings' or, he can line up at center against weaker competition but he's generally a LW'.

All in all, they need centers with top 6 potential. Thankfully all of our C's are young but to grab a guy who can move into the top 6 in 2-3 years would give us a tradable asset currently here.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 21 @ 10:29 AM ET
yeah who would think coming off of 2 covid years that it would be a bad idea to use your 4th pick in the draft to grab the best goalie out there
esp with the goalie prospects shunning us


good post

- homiedclown


What does covid have to do with it?

There's no great or even "good" goalies as far as I've read.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
Move along, nothing to see here.
- SABRES 89

it's funny as last year they all said get a goalie and we are better


but how dare you use the 41st pick to get the best ranked goalie in this class


button has him ranked as 54th

mckenzie has him ranked 62nd

we are hockey heaven so he will fall to us at 74
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
What does covid have to do with it?

There's no great or even "good" goalies as far as I've read.

- DirtyDan

crappy scouting for 2 years


goalies grow on trees


we don't need one


good post
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 21 @ 10:32 AM ET
At EH's 4 x $3.5m projected contract, Adams should be all over Nick Paul.
He is a heart & soul, glue guy, a playoff beast...plays up and down the lineup.

Paul - Cozens -Tuch
Try to get the puck...I triple dog dare ya.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 21 @ 10:33 AM ET
At EH's 4 x $3.5m projected contract, Adams should be all over Nick Paul.
He is a heart & soul, glue guy, a playoff beast...plays up and down the lineup.

Paul - Cozens -Tuch
Try to get the puck...I triple dog dare ya.

- IonSabres

tre white can be our goalie
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 21 @ 10:35 AM ET
What does covid have to do with it?

There's no great or even "good" goalies as far as I've read.

- DirtyDan

It proved you need viable options throughout your organization. Sabres are thin throughout with Levi and Portillo still in school.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 21 @ 10:35 AM ET
crappy scouting for 2 years


goalies grow on trees


we don't need one


good post

- homiedclown



https://www.hockeydb.com/...aft/teams/dr00005054.html

We had crappy scouting the last 2 years? looks like some good prospects at the moment.

We don't need one at 41. Didn't say we didn't need one. No reason to waste 41 on a goalie who doesnt even look great in junior hockey. Especially when there will be some damn good players there still.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 21 @ 10:37 AM ET
It proved you need viable options throughout your organization. Sabres are thin throughout with Levi and Portillo still in school.
- Buff36

he's right

we have so many goalie prospects signed


how dare you use the 41st pick to get the best goalie in this class

each draft class is the same when it fits one narrative, but not when it fits another narratve


tre white will bail us out in Feb
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
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Jun 21 @ 10:38 AM ET
It proved you need viable options throughout your organization. Sabres are thin throughout with Levi and Portillo still in school.
- Buff36


Go sign some bums for the ECHL. Don't waste a top 60 pick on goalies who aren't going to be taken in the top 60
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
Yeah, I get it. It was more of a 'well, he can play both sides/wings' or, he can line up at center against weaker competition but he's generally a LW'.

All in all, they need centers with top 6 potential. Thankfully all of our C's are young but to grab a guy who can move into the top 6 in 2-3 years would give us a tradable asset currently here.

- TheSabresTaco


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00005054.html

We had crappy scouting the last 2 years? looks like some good prospects at the moment.

We don't need one at 41. Didn't say we didn't need one. No reason to waste 41 on a goalie who doesnt even look great in junior hockey. Especially when there will be some damn good players there still.

- DirtyDan

good post


we are loaded with goalie prospects under contract


the best is ranked either mid 50's or early 60's but we dont need him

I mean who goes out and gets their man when you work for hockey heaven


SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 21 @ 10:40 AM ET
it's funny as last year they all said get a goalie and we are better


but how dare you use the 41st pick to get the best ranked goalie in this class


button has him ranked as 54th

mckenzie has him ranked 62nd

we are hockey heaven so he will fall to us at 74

- homiedclown

#SUFFERING
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 21 @ 10:40 AM ET
Go sign some bums for the ECHL. Don't waste a top 60 pick on goalies who aren't going to be taken in the top 60
- DirtyDan

good post


don't go get your guy

just go get a guy


SABRES 89
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Jun 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
Go sign some bums for the ECHL. Don't waste a top 60 pick on goalies who aren't going to be taken in the top 60
- DirtyDan

The "BUM" we sign will be our starter.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
#SUFFERING
- SABRES 89

when portillo walks, it will be why didn't we use pick 41 to get the best goalie in the 2022 draft
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
good post


we are loaded with goalie prospects under contract


the best is ranked either mid 50's or early 60's but we dont need him

I mean who goes out and gets their man when you work for hockey heaven

- homiedclown


I try to have discussion. You try to make joke.





homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
The "BUM" we sign will be our starter.
- SABRES 89

tre white is not a bum
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
So were reaching 20 spots to take a goalie. Great idea.

Reaching 3 spots for Quinn tho was an abomination.

Thats some logic right there
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