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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 27 @ 9:51 AM ET
Make sure Gary stacks the lotto balls in your favor for Bedard.
- Feds91Stammer


Haha we tried that with Laf already and that didn't work out, but that also doesn't help up for the next couple of years.

I was thinking maybe Burns. SJ may be hitting the reset and while he's clearly not ideal, I'd imagine SJ would be eating salary to move him out.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 27 @ 10:16 AM ET
Haha we tried that with Laf already and that didn't work out, but that also doesn't help up for the next couple of years.

I was thinking maybe Burns. SJ may be hitting the reset and while he's clearly not ideal, I'd imagine SJ would be eating salary to move him out.

- Rinosaur

Like obviously I give you guys a hard time about the pens sucking but if Letang is gone contention days are over until the next core group of this team is developed. Maybe you can get lucky and trade POJ to MTL for Petry.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jan 27 @ 10:19 AM ET
Alrighty gents, let's play the Letang Doomsday Scenario game. If Letang decides not to return, how do the Pens best replace him?

Klingberg is the easy answer, but this year's UFA crop of RHD's is as thin as can be, so chances are there will be a bidding war for him that the Pens can't afford. Just for context, Subban is the next best RHD after him and after that it's Colin Miller.

The Pens don't have assets to trade for a major RHD if he were to become available, so what then?

- Rinosaur

It’s not really an option. My Geno bashing is mostly a joke, but if Letang wants more money and it means they can’t pay Malkin so be it.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 27 @ 10:27 AM ET
Alrighty gents, let's play the Letang Doomsday Scenario game. If Letang decides not to return, how do the Pens best replace him?

Klingberg is the easy answer, but this year's UFA crop of RHD's is as thin as can be, so chances are there will be a bidding war for him that the Pens can't afford. Just for context, Subban is the next best RHD after him and after that it's Colin Miller.

The Pens don't have assets to trade for a major RHD if he were to become available, so what then?

- Rinosaur


Rebuild. I think Letang is the most vital player to this teams success. Without his transition game 25 minutes a night Sid and Geno can’t Sid and Geno.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 27 @ 10:28 AM ET
It’s not really an option. My Geno bashing is mostly a joke, but if Letang wants more money and it means they can’t pay Malkin so be it.
- Grinder47


I don't think money is the issue. Letang may simply want to move on.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jan 27 @ 10:44 AM ET
I love that they re-signed Carter. I think he might be my favorite Vet pickup the Pens have made during the Crosby years. Clearly a signal they are still going to be in it to win it.

I think both Letang and Malkin re-sign also. They will get fair market value and close out their careers here.

Based on how heavy Sully has been riding Jarry, I think it's inevitable that a goalie deal happens soon... and I really think there is a good chance it is Fleury returning. Chicago has said they will honor his request to only get traded where and when he wants, I can't imagine he wants to go to Edmonton where he will be hung out to dry.

I can't believe I am this excited about the Pens chances this season. I thought this was going to be a borderline playoff team but they are just playing a really strong, consistent game. Sully is coach of the year by a landslide if you ask me.

MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 27 @ 10:46 AM ET
Feds, someone just dropped Raymond in my pool. I already have Larkin and Bertuzzi, who have been studs for me, but is Raymond playing with them 5 on 5? is he on 1st PP?
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jan 27 @ 10:55 AM ET
I don't think money is the issue. Letang may simply want to move on.
- Rinosaur

I think money would be the only issue. He doesn’t want to spend 90 percent of his ice time with Sydney Crosby? I could just see him looking at it as his last big pay day and isn’t willing to do the “hometown discount”.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 27 @ 10:56 AM ET
Feds, someone just dropped Raymond in my pool. I already have Larkin and Bertuzzi, who have been studs for me, but is Raymond playing with them 5 on 5? is he on 1st PP?
- MattStrat

Raymond is still on PP1. Right now Bertuzzi is dropped to line 2 to get some other lines going. Vrana should be back in 2-4 weeks as well. Your league is crazy though. Best available in my league forward wise is (frank)ing Trevor Lewis.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
I think money would be the only issue. He doesn’t want to spend 90 percent of his ice time with Sydney Crosby? I could just see him looking at it as his last big pay day and isn’t willing to do the “hometown discount”.
- Grinder47

Or he simply might just have one destination in mind.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:04 AM ET
Raymond is still on PP1. Right now Bertuzzi is dropped to line 2 to get some other lines going. Vrana should be back in 2-4 weeks as well. Your league is crazy though. Best available in my league forward wise is (frank)ing Trevor Lewis.
- Feds91Stammer


hahah you guys counting faceoffs, hits and blocks?

I'm currently 1st in my division, which automatically makes me 2nd overall, but if I was in the other division I'd be 5th in it. The other division has two absolute bottom feeders in it that most of the teams in that division have already or will play 2 times.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:04 AM ET
Or he simply might just have one destination in mind.
- Feds91Stammer


The 514
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 27 @ 11:12 AM ET
hahah you guys counting faceoffs, hits and blocks?

I'm currently 1st in my division, which automatically makes me 2nd overall, but if I was in the other division I'd be 5th in it. The other division has two absolute bottom feeders in it that most of the teams in that division have already or will play 2 times.

- MattStrat

Yeah. I’ve been in 1st almost all year but slipped to 2nd with all the Covid poop. Lost all goalie categories the other week because I couldn’t meet the 2 appearance requirement.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 27 @ 11:15 AM ET
Or he simply might just have one destination in mind.
- Feds91Stammer


Exactly
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 27 @ 11:16 AM ET
Exactly
- Rinosaur

Apparently that concept is hard to grasp. Kinda like a broken jaw.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:17 AM ET
Yeah. I’ve been in 1st almost all year but slipped to 2nd with all the Covid poop. Lost all goalie categories the other week because I couldn’t meet the 2 appearance requirement.
- Feds91Stammer


Yeah the covid stuff has been nuts for fantasy haha, Ive had like 7 or 8 guys out some nights, but at least they (Yahoo) allowed Covid players to be put in an IR spot this season.
TheBrownListerine
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Camp Hill, PA
Joined: 10.08.2020

Jan 27 @ 11:23 AM ET
Let’s compare another C in the league to Jeff Carter, just for fun.

Top 100 Player
43 GP
4 G
15 A
19 P
-11
Is such a leader


Carter:
36 GP
12 G
14 A
26 P
No teeth

I’ll take the gamble. Easy contract to swallow for the role and versatility.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 27 @ 11:23 AM ET
Yeah the covid stuff has been nuts for fantasy haha, Ive had like 7 or 8 guys out some nights, but at least they (Yahoo) allowed Covid players to be put in an IR spot this season.
- MattStrat

Yeah sucky part for my league is the players available are basically useless and we have a 1 day wait on transactions so if I need to drop someone to activate a player I have to wait a day.

I’ve only been offered 1 trade. It was a 5 for 5 except all my 5 were good and 3 of the players I would get in return probably belonged on waivers.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 27 @ 11:25 AM ET
Let’s compare another C in the league to Jeff Carter, just for fun.

Top 100 Player
43 GP
4 G
15 A
19 P
-11
Is such a leader


Carter:
36 GP
12 G
14 A
26 P
No teeth

I’ll take the gamble. Easy contract to swallow for the role and versatility.

- TheBrownListerine

The irony here is Toews is proof that play can fall off significantly.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:30 AM ET
Yeah sucky part for my league is the players available are basically useless and we have a 1 day wait on transactions so if I need to drop someone to activate a player I have to wait a day.

I’ve only been offered 1 trade. It was a 5 for 5 except all my 5 were good and 3 of the players I would get in return probably belonged on waivers.

- Feds91Stammer


1 day wait in our league as well. Add today, use tomorrow. A lot of pools use this format. Its hard with players coming off IR and what not but it I do think same day adds kind of nerf the league...and the guys in the pool with a lot more time on their hands would be at advantage.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 27 @ 11:31 AM ET
Or he simply might just have one destination in mind.
- Feds91Stammer


I’m glad mtl is an absolute disaster this year to help deter him from going home.

*also their cap status ain’t great.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 27 @ 11:35 AM ET
The irony here is Toews is proof that play can fall off significantly.
- Feds91Stammer


And not just late in your career.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:36 AM ET
I’m glad mtl is an absolute disaster this year to help deter him from going home.

*also their cap status ain’t great.

- 10inchTerror


Absolutely haha....I just think he, Sid and Geno are best friends and their team is still playing very good...if he's comfortable with the amount the Pens will give him, he will stay. None of this is to mention how f'n terribly locked down and strict Quebec is with covid. Its nuts. Might be his home but if he goes back there he might not feel all that free...a lot can change by the summer though I guess...
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 27 @ 11:43 AM ET
The irony here is Toews is proof that play can fall off significantly.
- Feds91Stammer

That's one of the worst contracts in the league.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 27 @ 11:53 AM ET
1 day wait in our league as well. Add today, use tomorrow. A lot of pools use this format. Its hard with players coming off IR and what not but it I do think same day adds kind of nerf the league...and the guys in the pool with a lot more time on their hands would be at advantage.
- MattStrat

Oh for sure. In leagues that don’t have it there’s always obscure goalies getting added on Sunday.
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