mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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Daraisatl is on that list lol...Donald Trump was president...Leafs Nation wanted to trade Nylander..people are dumb - Zezel
Mitch Marner's contract is dumb. |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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How could Campbell be most overrated and most underrated.
He should be one or the other.
Lots of Leafs haters out there - dmnted
Funny thing is it is impossible to overrate Campbell right now....he's a top goalie, and his numbers clearly say that...unless people think he's mediocre, and the Leafs team D is spectacular.. |
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dmnted
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Big game vs Victoria today
13 players, 4 Covid 🤨 - mr.sir
double shifting to occur. |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Mitch Marner's contract is dumb. - mjones242
Now that is by far the most over—criticized contract in the league, no question. For it being really not bad at all relative to dead money around the league it generates an inordinate amount of angst. Definitely top of the exaggerated cap worry list. |
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dmnted
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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how's the weather out there these days
I have some packages coming from B.C. and the carriers are all (frank)ed out there it seems
Hope the locusts don't come next - Zezel
You will be assimilated in to the collective.
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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Now that is by far the most over—criticized contract in the league, no question. For it being really not bad at all relative to dead money around the league it generates an inordinate amount of angst. Definitely top of the exaggerated cap worry list. - Zezel
This is some homer serious spin. |
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Daraisatl is on that list lol...Donald Trump was president...Leafs Nation wanted to trade Nylander..people are dumb - Zezel
I truly concur this is to be true. Sometime I fall into this category but not often. |
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Canada Cup
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Broken clock per Marner. - mjones242
Broken brain you mean, amirite/amirov? Did I do that right? |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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You will be assimilated in to the collective.
- dmnted
Lmaooooooo
Poor BC...pine beetle...Canucks......wildfires...heatwaves...floods...rockslides and avalanches....The Borg lolololololol |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Funny thing is it is impossible to overrate Campbell right now....he's a top goalie, and his numbers clearly say that...unless people think he's mediocre, and the Leafs team D is spectacular.. - Zezel
$6M |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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I truly concur this is to be true. Sometime I fall into this category but not often. - dmnted
Most jump rather than fall |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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This is some homer serious spin. - mjones242
There's seriously far, far worse dead cap all around the league than Marner. Marner might be overpaid by a bag of chips and a couple of chocolate bars. Ritchie is a bigger problem. |
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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Broken brain you mean, amirite/amirov? - Canada Cup
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dmnted
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Most jump rather than fall - Canada Cup
I'm just clumsy.
I trip going upstairs |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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$6M - Canada Cup
I wish they could've signed him earlier for a 4 or 5 type number...good problem to have though, Vezina-worthy goalie having a Tim Thomas season |
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mr.sir
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Location: Vancouver Island, BC Joined: 01.18.2015
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how's the weather out there these days
I have some packages coming from B.C. and the carriers are all (frank)ed out there it seems
Hope the locusts don't come next - Zezel
Just got a tsunami warning |
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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There's seriously far, far worse dead cap all around the league than Marner. Marner might be overpaid by a bag of chips and a couple of chocolate bars. Ritchie is a bigger problem. - Zezel
So we're trying to turn this into the "it's not the worst contract in the league" debate?
I never said it was the worst. I said his contract was "dumb". Let's try not to move the goalposts, yes?
Per Ritchie, sure, his contract looks pretty dumb in hindsight. |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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So we're trying to turn this into the "it's not the worst contract in the league" debate?
I never said it was the worst. I said his contract was "dumb". Let's try not to move the goalposts, yes?
Per Ritchie, sure, his contract looks pretty dumb in hindsight. - mjones242
I'm saying it's not even worth worrying about at all, because slightly overpaying elite talent in your core is so, so much better than actual legit dead money problems you could have. Slightly overpaying a Marner is a good problem to have. And I recall when Nylander's deal was awful too....lots of angst around that contract not so long ago...not sayin', just sayin'... |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Just got a tsunami warning - mr.sir
Holy poop you're not even joking
Stay dry and warm brother |
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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I'm saying it's not even worth worrying about at all, because slightly overpaying elite talent in your core is so, so much better than actual legit dead money problems you could have. Slightly overpaying a Marner is a good problem to have. And I recall when Nylander's deal was awful too....lots of angst around that contract not so long ago...not sayin', just sayin'... - Zezel
And I'm saying it's dumb.
It's also not "slightly" overpaying when it amounts to 2M~ in overpay. No play making winger has come close to what he's making. He's not the best RW in the league and yet he's paid like he is without any playoff success behind his name nor any individual trophies to back that up (whilst playing with AM34 and/or Snake!).
2M~ is a LOT of $$$ per the cap. It's the difference of being forced to play a guy like Justin Holl on the 2nd pair over plenty of 4M defenders who are orders of magnitude better than him.
Nylander? Since day one I've been a defender of his contract. Marner's contract should have been much, much closer to what Willie is making at the time Mitch signed his absurd deal.
An 11M~ player should be able to playoff hockey. Marner has been positively mediocre. When he starts producing up to his cap hit and is capable of elevating his game when it matters most instead of flipping pucks into the stands while killing penalties, call me.
To wit: Marner's contract is dumb. |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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I'll call you this playoffs when he's destroying his way to the Cup, then you'll be buying the home and away Marner onesies my dude.
- Zezel
I'll gladly eat crow if that ever happens. |
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UsernameUnknown
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Location: Gotta' Catch Em All! Joined: 03.25.2013
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And I'm saying it's dumb.
It's also not "slightly" overpaying when it amounts to 2M~ in overpay. No play making winger has come close to what he's making. He's not the best RW in the league and yet he's paid like he is without any playoff success behind his name nor any individual trophies to back that up (whilst playing with AM34 and/or Snake!).
2M~ is a LOT of $$$ per the cap. It's the difference of being forced to play a guy like Justin Holl on the 2nd pair over plenty of 4M defenders who are orders of magnitude better than him.
Nylander? Since day one I've been a defender of his contract. Marner's contract should have been much, much closer to what Willie is making at the time Mitch signed his absurd deal.
An 11M~ player should be able to playoff hockey. Marner has been positively mediocre. When he starts producing up to his cap hit and is capable of elevating his game when it matters most instead of flipping pucks into the stands while killing penalties, call me.
To wit: Marner's contract is dumb. - mjones242
Dumb take.
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Santo_44
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This is some homer serious spin. - mjones242
There are teams out there that have 5 million in dead cap.
It’s not a homer spin, just a reasonable one. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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By a clearly knowledgeable group that included Auston Matthews in most overrated - Canada Cup
Matthews getting hated on solely because he plays for the Leafs is absolutely hilarious to me. |
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